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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:20:00 -
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HighTimesSW wrote:
1. Zatara joined day 1 to TP and said this "What can you do for me" and "I donated 200M to SubDeddit and PFB and i'm not donating to a third corp"
2. he eventually, sent in 20M from an alt after I half jokingly made a remark about this a week later, he also followed it up with,
"My last 20M", So I sent it back. Total donations from members amounted to 4B isk, none of which was Zatara's.
3. Zatara, often whining about isk, was paid on top of 30M/week an additional 300M-500M.
4. I said zatara earned a portion of this isk, which is true. so he donated 20M.... and I have it back
20M/4B = .5% of earnings. 30B * .05% = 150M.
Zatara has been paid along with salary somewhere in the range of 1B isk.
5. **** you Zatara. ******* wiesel, You try to lead a group but put them all down, your not gonna make it as a leader
The isk that TP has accumulated was the property of teamplayers, and How dare you say I hold isk without consent.
Every single person in the corp knows where the isk is, and know's I wouldn't do anything with it that would put it at risk. for example, give you a billion to take a picture so you can post on the forums that you are a billionaire like some poor pathetic dream. I had full consent and disclosure from everyone, luckily I did it, since apparently you being a director gives you the right to remove isk from the wallet without anyone consent or approval. I don't care what reason why, or what you felt you compensated for, you did it.
The isk was for future endeavors, for the game gets good Soon TM. Cubs said you had financial backing for any TP endeavor you wanted to employ, but no you do not have personal backing from others ppls hard earned is, you have been paid what you were owed.
No you throw a public temper tantrum because you did not get your way. So you throw away years of personal relationships because you WANT isk, not NEED, which you proudly made very clear.
Truthfully, you will fail because instead of seeing your own faults as leader you point fingers and tell people it was their fault. It was your fault as the FC for not using you teams abilities to their fullest, not the individuals. Point fingers at rei and appia and w/e else you see. WINS are a team effort and Losses are the fault of the leader.
I'll be removing you from Skype and PSN when I return home, or do me the kindness of removing yourself.
1.) LOL.
2.) Donated 16 min and then 20 from an alt. Got some back, not all.
3.) Was paid 20 mill a week long after we had padded the wallet well over 10 billion isk. Got paid 30 mill for about 5 weeks.
4.) LOL HT, I got paid about 500 mill.
5.) SMH. Fine HT, do as you will.
All assertions...with no proof to back it up...more of the same.
Every single person in the corp knows where the isk is, and know's I wouldn't do anything with it that would put it at risk. for example, give you a billion to take a picture so you can post on the forums that you are a billionaire like some poor pathetic dream. I had full consent and disclosure from everyone, luckily I did it, since apparently you being a director gives you the right to remove isk from the wallet without anyone consent or approval. I don't care what reason why, or what you felt you compensated for, you did it.
For the record I did in fact suggest this! And I had the option as a director to steal, however I did not. Over a billion sat around, but I did not take anything outside of DS money, which i was never compensated for. 100 mill, consented to by Cubs, and which I said he could have back if he disagreed with my decision to take it.
Without consent? I'll take a pic for you. lol I love the revisionist history.
"No you throw a public temper tantrum because you did not get your way. So you throw away years of personal relationships because you WANT isk, not NEED, which you proudly made very clear. "
If Cubs wants to keep the video game money and justify not making a loan, then so be it. No harm, no foul. G/L HT.
Truthfully, you will fail because instead of seeing your own faults as leader you point fingers and tell people it was their fault. It was your fault as the FC for not using you teams abilities to their fullest, not the individuals. Point fingers at rei and appia and w/e else you see. WINS are a team effort and Losses are the fault of the leader.
I never said Rei was ever the reason we lost. Just that she wasn't a slayer. She's a great player, but not a slayer logi. Appia running hacker in the city was never a decision I made, and she came to me before telling me as much. Cubs told her to run in the city. Which was fail.
Have I failed as an FC? Many times. And I will continue to fail. But I can grow. I still got a long way to go, but those that choose to follow will get 90% of PC earnings, not a pittance so Cubs can brag to everone about how many zeroes he has in his wallet.
G/L H/F
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General John Ripper
Pradox One Proficiency V.
5559
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:22:00 -
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what I don't get is... how are you poor after getting paid all of that????
I haven't even been paid 1/20th what you have been paid in tp and it sounds like I have waaaaaay more isk than you???
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NAV HIV
The Generals EoN.
541
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:24:00 -
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HighTimesSW wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Update: In Cubs defense he did say i was paid more than everyone else and this is true. I got paid back most of my donations and then also a short while later was given what was known as "Zatara's Bailout" to the tune to 100 mill isk. (This was when I had like 5 mill isk to my name and I could barely afford suits/weapons because CCP took them all when they were accounting for the money glitch). I don't believe leaving that out would be fair because it did happen. However...this is not a fair portion of what I played and earned...and does not justify the more important cold shoulder I was given on getting a loan. I was kicked from the clan after a few choice insults (I strenuously avoided calling anyone "******* dense" "jackass" or the like) There was never any good reason issued for being denied a loan. I will not vote for Cubs if he ran for CPM. I guess I'm just surprised he would go this far over some fake money in a video game that's doing nothing for him and could help me out a ton. 1. Zatara joined day 1 to TP and said this "What can you do for me" and "I donated 200M to SubDeddit and PFB and i'm not donating to a third corp" 2. he eventually, sent in 20M from an alt after I half jokingly made a remark about this a week later, he also followed it up with, "My last 20M", So I sent it back. Total donations from members amounted to 4B isk, none of which was Zatara's. 3. Zatara, often whining about isk, was paid on top of 30M/week an additional 300M-500M. 4. I said zatara earned a portion of this isk, which is true. so he donated 20M.... and I have it back 20M/4B = .5% of earnings. 30B * .05% = 150M. Zatara has been paid along with salary somewhere in the range of 1B isk. 5. **** you Zatara. ******* wiesel, You try to lead a group but put them all down, your not gonna make it as a leader The isk that TP has accumulated was the property of teamplayers, and How dare you say I hold isk without consent. Every single person in the corp knows where the isk is, and know's I wouldn't do anything with it that would put it at risk. for example, give you a billion to take a picture so you can post on the forums that you are a billionaire like some poor pathetic dream. I had full consent and disclosure from everyone, luckily I did it, since apparently you being a director gives you the right to remove isk from the wallet without anyone consent or approval. I don't care what reason why, or what you felt you compensated for, you did it. The isk was for future endeavors, for the game gets good Soon TM. Cubs said you had financial backing for any TP endeavor you wanted to employ, but no you do not have personal backing from others ppls hard earned is, you have been paid what you were owed. No you throw a public temper tantrum because you did not get your way. So you throw away years of personal relationships because you WANT isk, not NEED, which you proudly made very clear. Truthfully, you will fail because instead of seeing your own faults as leader you point fingers and tell people it was their fault. It was your fault as the FC for not using you teams abilities to their fullest, not the individuals. Point fingers at rei and appia and w/e else you see. WINS are a team effort and Losses are the fault of the leader. I'll be removing you from Skype and PSN when I return home, or do me the kindness of removing yourself.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1741
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:24:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:what I don't get is... how are you poor after getting paid all of that????
Well, there was a thing about paying Rampage once that contributed...but I also am a philanthropist. I am not broke, I just wanted enough to power a play into PC.
A loan. A loan to be repaid. One thankfully that I've had 3 corps offer to make me. Some friends.
That's Master nader to you scrub.
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1742
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:32:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:
Hopefully that'd be the end of all this* stupid drama every other day
There's drama every other day? And this is going to end it? What?
That's Master nader to you scrub.
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
847
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:33:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:General John Ripper wrote:what I don't get is... how are you poor after getting paid all of that???? Well, there was a thing about paying Rampage once that contributed...but I also am a philanthropist. I am not broke, I just wanted enough to power a play into PC. A loan. A loan to be repaid. One thankfully that I've had 3 corps offer to make me. Some friends.
i am, after all, just some scrub with a HUGE wallet
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1742
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:35:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:General John Ripper wrote:what I don't get is... how are you poor after getting paid all of that???? Well, there was a thing about paying Rampage once that contributed...but I also am a philanthropist. I am not broke, I just wanted enough to power a play into PC. A loan. A loan to be repaid. One thankfully that I've had 3 corps offer to make me. Some friends. i am, after all, just some scrub with a HUGE wallet
And I'm the foolish guy that repays other people wanton bets!
That's Master nader to you scrub.
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
847
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:37:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:General John Ripper wrote:what I don't get is... how are you poor after getting paid all of that???? Well, there was a thing about paying Rampage once that contributed...but I also am a philanthropist. I am not broke, I just wanted enough to power a play into PC. A loan. A loan to be repaid. One thankfully that I've had 3 corps offer to make me. Some friends. i am, after all, just some scrub with a HUGE wallet And I'm the foolish guy that repays other people wanton bets!
well, bad news is, im not paying you back. good news is, AE paid me 80m last week :D
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1742
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:40:00 -
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Nono my friend, the debt has been repaid. <3
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
847
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:46:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Nono my friend, the debt has been repaid. <3
good, i ddn't want you to think i was gunna give you isk or something. lol im a cheap bastard :D (says the guy that bought 4000 of every fitting i have (a total of four equaling a total of 16,000 suits)
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:48:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Nono my friend, the debt has been repaid. <3 good, i ddn't want you to think i was gunna give you isk or something. lol im a cheap bastard :D (says the guy that bought 4000 of every fitting i have (a total of four equaling a total of 16,000 suits)
Eh who cares...I only need one suit for you Start putting up the #'s in PC vs OH scrub! (insert other e-peen stroking comments here)
That's Master nader to you scrub.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1330
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:49:00 -
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Lol I should have asked kujo or marauder for some isk instead the first 30m we made from grinding was used to get a district so it worked out great thanks to my friends in high places though...my corp is pretty solid not gonna lie I'm proud
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
849
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:51:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Lol I should have asked kujo or marauder for some isk instead the first 30m we made from grinding was used to get a district so it worked out great thanks to my friends in high places though...my corp is pretty solid not gonna lie I'm proud
heim, you know you can always come to me for a loan.. im actually kind of mad you ddn't ask me.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1742
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:51:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Lol I should have asked kujo or marauder for some isk instead the first 30m we made from grinding was used to get a district so it worked out great thanks to my friends in high places though...my corp is pretty solid not gonna lie I'm proud
The Bunnies and imps that live on in your corp must be taken care of! Don't let them down Heim!
That's Master nader to you scrub.
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NAV HIV
The Generals EoN.
542
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:51:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:NAV HIV wrote:
Hopefully that'd be the end of all this* stupid drama every other day
There's drama every other day? And this is going to end it? What?
From TP glory days to MPHD failures, From e-peen stroking threads to calling everyone else scrubs, From jumping 10 different Corp dramas to this now. You guys are friends, why not make a chat room and talk things out and yell at each other? Why throw dirt on each other in public?! What happened to that tiny bit of loyalty and respect towards each other?! Didn't you both go through enough together to have that much?! So, e-peen stroking, when is it enough ?! |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
849
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:52:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Nono my friend, the debt has been repaid. <3 good, i ddn't want you to think i was gunna give you isk or something. lol im a cheap bastard :D (says the guy that bought 4000 of every fitting i have (a total of four equaling a total of 16,000 suits) Eh who cares...I only need one suit for you Start putting up the #'s in PC vs OH scrub! (insert other e-peen stroking comments here)
I WOULD if soul stops making me suicide every 10 seconds -.- seriously though, tonight ill try my best to do good
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:53:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:NAV HIV wrote:
Hopefully that'd be the end of all this* stupid drama every other day
There's drama every other day? And this is going to end it? What? From TP glory days to MPHD failures, From e-peen stroking threads to calling everyone else scrubs, From jumping 10 different Corp dramas to this now. You guys are friends, why not make a chat room and talk things out and yell at each other? Why throw dirt on each other in public?! What happened to that tiny bit of loyalty and respect towards each other?! Didn't you both go through enough together to have that much?! So, e-peen stroking, when is it enough ?!
dude, your starting to sound like zaria.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1330
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:54:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Lol I should have asked kujo or marauder for some isk instead the first 30m we made from grinding was used to get a district so it worked out great thanks to my friends in high places though...my corp is pretty solid not gonna lie I'm proud The Bunnies and imps that live on in your corp must be taken care of! Don't let them down Heim! They have a pc today with neither ceo...Rampage I'm expecting you to get it done I want all my corp members that are on to be in it though...
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General John Ripper
Pradox One Proficiency V.
5561
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:57:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:NAV HIV wrote:
Hopefully that'd be the end of all this* stupid drama every other day
There's drama every other day? And this is going to end it? What? From TP glory days to MPHD failures, From e-peen stroking threads to calling everyone else scrubs, From jumping 10 different Corp dramas to this now. You guys are friends, why not make a chat room and talk things out and yell at each other? Why throw dirt on each other in public?! What happened to that tiny bit of loyalty and respect towards each other?! Didn't you both go through enough together to have that much?! So, e-peen stroking, when is it enough ?! When will it be enough?!!??!
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
849
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:58:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Lol I should have asked kujo or marauder for some isk instead the first 30m we made from grinding was used to get a district so it worked out great thanks to my friends in high places though...my corp is pretty solid not gonna lie I'm proud The Bunnies and imps that live on in your corp must be taken care of! Don't let them down Heim! They have a pc today with neither ceo...Rampage I'm expecting you to get it done I want all my corp members that are on to be in it though...
yeah i missed my ******* train so im going to have to catch a later one but ill be home in time maybe. and what do you mean no directors will be on? is name going to be there? or at least nick?
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:00:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Lol I should have asked kujo or marauder for some isk instead the first 30m we made from grinding was used to get a district so it worked out great thanks to my friends in high places though...my corp is pretty solid not gonna lie I'm proud The Bunnies and imps that live on in your corp must be taken care of! Don't let them down Heim! They have a pc today with neither ceo...Rampage I'm expecting you to get it done I want all my corp members that are on to be in it though... yeah i missed my ******* train so im going to have to catch a later one but ill be home in time maybe. and what do you mean no directors will be on? is name going to be there? or at least nick? Nich should be my bro and I will not school and work
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1742
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:01:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:NAV HIV wrote:
Hopefully that'd be the end of all this* stupid drama every other day
There's drama every other day? And this is going to end it? What? From TP glory days to MPHD failures, From e-peen stroking threads to calling everyone else scrubs, From jumping 10 different Corp dramas to this now. You guys are friends, why not make a chat room and talk things out and yell at each other? Why throw dirt on each other in public?! What happened to that tiny bit of loyalty and respect towards each other?! Didn't you both go through enough together to have that much?! So, e-peen stroking, when is it enough ?!
E-peen stroking threads? You mean when I didn't put my name on one of the best of all time? Wait, or do you mean when I told AE they deserved the win after the tourney, and that they were the best in dust? Who jumped 10 different corps? I've been in Subdreddit, PFBHz, TeamPlayers, MHPD, and was just in imps till Regnyum quit the game and decided he was not gonna rebuild so I created my own to play PC. If TeamPlayers had never quit PC I'd never have left.
He actually kicked me from the chat room lol. He didn't want to talk it out, he wanted to flex pride and power. I really didn't want dirt to be thrown, I was actually content with his decision and was happily chatting in our chat till he decided to throw a flamethrower over the coals and wanted to fight about it, and when I contested it he kicked me instead of arguing it out and resolving it. LOL I have a ton of respect for HT, sad to see him throw our friendship away. But I'm sure he believes Cubs.
I wish the desire for a loan hadn't escalated this far, and perhaps in retrospect I'll view this differently. But I didn't come here until it was over. He kicked me from the clan and there was no going back. Cubs doesn't come around and realize his follies...ask Xero. Misunderstandings and disagreements with Cubs tend to turn into much larger conflicts and cold wars than they ever really need be.
As for me...I'm just a scrub who still can't understand why my friend refused me but as a beggar 3 people from the community offered me significant amounts of fake money...it's significant...don't you think?
That's Master nader to you scrub.
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General John Ripper
Pradox One Proficiency V.
5562
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:05:00 -
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to be fair... he never said you were stroking your own e-peen.
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
850
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:07:00 -
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to be fair, i want a taco.
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DJINN Rampage
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:09:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Lol I should have asked kujo or marauder for some isk instead the first 30m we made from grinding was used to get a district so it worked out great thanks to my friends in high places though...my corp is pretty solid not gonna lie I'm proud The Bunnies and imps that live on in your corp must be taken care of! Don't let them down Heim! They have a pc today with neither ceo...Rampage I'm expecting you to get it done I want all my corp members that are on to be in it though... yeah i missed my ******* train so im going to have to catch a later one but ill be home in time maybe. and what do you mean no directors will be on? is name going to be there? or at least nick? Nich should be my bro and I will not school and work
alright, ill try to work something out then but if i have no contacts theres nothing i can do bud,
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1742
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:09:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:to be fair... he never said you were stroking your own e-peen.
Dis is tru.
That's Master nader to you scrub.
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General John Ripper
Pradox One Proficiency V.
5563
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:09:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:to be fair, i want a taco. Have a taco and some beer.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1742
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:10:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:
alright, ill try to work something out then but if i have no contacts theres nothing i can do bud,
Somebody say they need ringers?
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
851
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:12:00 -
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I have solved the mystery as to why cubs doesn't want to give you a loan.
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DJINN Rampage
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:13:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:
alright, ill try to work something out then but if i have no contacts theres nothing i can do bud,
Somebody say they need ringers?
lol if you want to ring for free ill be more than happy to let you take the helm.
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