good luck running a corp and learning the ins and outs of everything involved with it.

You call yourself a TeamPlayer, yet you come to a public forum and simply copy and paste a private convo? Hmm no wonder you are no longer part of the family...

But that is that. I still wish you the best and its just unfortunate you cant be an adult like most and accept a decision and move on.

1. Zatara joined day 1 to TP and said this "What can you do for me" and "I donated 200M to SubDeddit and PFB and i'm not donating to a third corp"

2. he eventually, sent in 20M from an alt after I half jokingly made a remark about this a week later, he also followed it up with,

"My last 20M", So I sent it back. Total donations from members amounted to 4B isk, none of which was Zatara's.

3. Zatara, often whining about isk, was paid on top of 30M/week an additional 300M-500M.

4. I said zatara earned a portion of this isk, which is true. so he donated 20M.... and I have it back

20M/4B = .5% of earnings. 30B * .05% = 150M.

Zatara has been paid along with salary somewhere in the range of 1B isk.

5. **** you Zatara. ******* wiesel, You try to lead a group but put them all down, your not gonna make it as a leader

The isk that TP has accumulated was the property of teamplayers, and How dare you say I hold isk without consent.

Every single person in the corp knows where the isk is, and know's I wouldn't do anything with it that would put it at risk.
for example, give you a billion to take a picture so you can post on the forums that you are a billionaire like some poor pathetic dream. I had full consent and disclosure from everyone, luckily I did it, since apparently you being a director gives you the right to remove isk from the wallet without anyone consent or approval. I don't care what reason why, or what you felt you compensated for, you did it.

The isk was for future endeavors, for the game gets good Soon TM. Cubs said you had financial backing for any TP endeavor you wanted to employ, but no you do not have personal backing from others ppls hard earned is, you have been paid what you were owed.

No you throw a public temper tantrum because you did not get your way. So you throw away years of personal relationships because you WANT isk, not NEED, which you proudly made very clear.

Truthfully, you will fail because instead of seeing your own faults as leader you point fingers and tell people it was their fault.
It was your fault as the FC for not using you teams abilities to their fullest, not the individuals. Point fingers at rei and appia and w/e else you see. WINS are a team effort and Losses are the fault of the leader.

I'll be removing you from Skype and PSN when I return home, or do me the kindness of removing yourself.

what I don't get is... how are you poor after getting paid all of that????

Hopefully that'd be the end of all this* stupid drama every other day

i am, after all, just some scrub with a HUGE wallet

good, i ddn't want you to think i was gunna give you isk or something. lol im a cheap bastard :D (says the guy that bought 4000 of every fitting i have (a total of four equaling a total of 16,000 suits)

Lol I should have asked kujo or marauder for some isk instead the first 30m we made from grinding was used to get a district so it worked out great thanks to my friends in high places though...my corp is pretty solid not gonna lie I'm proud

From TP glory days to MPHD failures, From e-peen stroking threads to calling everyone else scrubs, From jumping 10 different Corp dramas to this now. You guys are friends, why not make a chat room and talk things out and yell at each other? Why throw dirt on each other in public?! What happened to that tiny bit of loyalty and respect towards each other?! Didn't you both go through enough together to have that much?! So, e-peen stroking, when is it enough ?!

to be fair... he never said you were stroking your own e-peen.

alright, ill try to work something out then but if i have no contacts theres nothing i can do bud,

I'm not calling you a Corp hopper or a e-peen stroker. Just a general statement on things i've noticed these days. I stayed in the one CORP since day 1. Good, bad, ugly... we are still having fun everyday.

I know with friends it's difficult to fight or argue. it always escalates to something bigger... Something i'm sure both of you might regret in the future. At the end of the day it's a stupid game that pisses everyone off with false hopes and promises combined with ****** updates. What matters is the friends you make along the way and the fun times you have together. Think about those and may be both of you can have a discussion later privately?!

If you wanted to play PC you could've helped recruit for TP and come back fighting again couldn't you ?!

Hightimes doesn't always post in the forums, but when he does...

Your not going to be allowed to be in teamplayers after this game. Take your petty bs elsewhere.

Actually its a snippet of the opinions of the people that carried your worthless ass for months.

Should i post the private conversation up here like another cocksuck3r i know? Oh wait

you look dumb lol

Smears the sh!t on my boot on your head kicking ya

Niqqa hold my earings

*charges*

:P

Edit: i dont have earrings :P

This thread goes to **** once you start breaking out racial slurs....

Nah, just going off on my own for a bit.


and lol not like you would want me in your corp anyway

wait was that a troll? ;_;

Too bad editing a post doesn't count as posting again....

*snippet*
20M/4B = .5% of earnings. 30B * .05% = 150M.

The money we get is nice :D

I think kujo gives away 90% of total isk earned? Pretty sure. It's awesome :D
Funds my random shenanigans. Like my tank alt that loses like 3 500k isk tanks per game lol

I think a couple people in this thread owe me an apology lol

I knew zatara was an awesome player that ******* owns practically everyone in his path. well before he even knew he was a an awesome player that ******* owns everything in his path...

can confirm broadway is a beast. seriously though, if were all SOO bad, who's carrying us?

Now to get the company going you need merchandise to sell. The CEOs of the company asks that if anyone can help BUILD some computers that they would really appreciate it. Hightimes and Cubs have built thousands already but would like to be prepared if demand outweighs supply. Most people can help but no one is forced, (Which I happily did, despite initially not being able to) very few whine that they cant build computers because they just did for another company. (Cause we needed my 20 million when we never even used 25% of the initial money donated We only used about 800 mill to get into PC, and that frequently was said to be the amount in the 'hole' we needed to earn back to have made a profit) So now the company has a product and employees to sell this product who are all for the most part happen to be friends. IBM is ready for business. (This is really grasping for things to get mad about, lol, but I'll play along anyways.)

IBM becomes successful and hires more employees to just sell computers, the company has sold enough that they can afford manufacturing factories to build the product. And product begins piling up. (In the wallets of no one but directors until close to july, usually if this were comparing to real life people get I owe you's for money that will be paid for that time, or perhaps stock in the company, but no worries, it's a video game and this analogy is stretched as it is,)

As time passes salespeople come and go, fun is had by most and the drama is minimal. Most people love selling computers for IBM. Other companies are successful selling computers too, they are wise with their investments and good to their salespeople and this reflects both in the number of their factories and the MORALE of their salesTEAMs. Somepeople, like Xero, hated selling computers with a passion, but do it anyway because he liked spending time with friends at IBM. Eventually he has had enough and moves on, lots of people get bored selling computers and just move on. (And some salespeople were promoted to the board of directors , even 1 that had stolen money before, oh wait this isn't the part about credit checks yet.)

One salesperson starts telling other salespeople he doesn't think they are pulling their weight, that they dont know how to sell, and is literally screaming at them, during and after every salesday (Xero? That's not nice!). Now people start quitting left and right. (humorous insinuation, especially because I was gone playing FF long before I complained that Xero was right, that we started recruiting less talented players) Who would blame them? (No one, if this was remotely the truth, but wait, many of those same people don't remember it that way and went to go kickstart another company that sells computers!) This person whined about not being able to help build computers on day 1, (Um..I could play PC, but it's true I couldn't donate day 1 but was able to once I earned 20 mill and donated it al...when we already had 4x as much as we ever used on what it was gathered for, according to Cubs anyway) whined that he didn't manage his finances properly during an IRS accounting error (I joked about it,sure, and complained about how CCP handled it, sorry?), whined when he couldnt bully the CEOs into giving away product to the competition (What?), whined when the CEOs didnt initially want to start a new company with new allstar salespeople (Are we complaining about starting MHPD because Cubs grand plan to assimilate RND didn't work? lolol), and was now berating his own salesTEAM (Oh I told you you were bad doc? soweee). Now he is whining that IBM wont 'lend' 4% of their nestegg to a financially irresponsible 'friend' looking to p1ss it away on starting a new computer company? (Some of us do still want to sell computers!, and I dispute I'm financially irresponsible, I worked hard and made lots of isk XD) Money better spent on bacon and tacos! (Giving it to players that never earned any of it while they work hard at the Pubs. )

Cubs and Hightimes decide that they were not having fun in this environment (woulda been easier if the locking had stopped, just saying) and sold the factories.

The product belongs to the company, you are not part of the company nor will you ever be again. (Sadly this is true, if this game had lawyers, and we'd been paid based on # of PC's played, or many other things, I'd sue! ) Your typically Zatara false sense of entitlement (lolol), logical fallacies (pot caling the kettle black) and your need for blame deflection will not be missed (actually, this is really lol because I regularly apologized, unlike most, when I did do something silly, I am imperfect, and I do make tons of mistakes.), however, we did sell a **** ton of computers bro! Cubs and Hightimes have made a decision for the betterment of the companies future (read: LOOK AT ALL THE ZEROES IN MY WALLET!) and for those of us that like selling computers together, no matter the venue, which you made abundantly clear you were not interested in (Oh I said that huh?). IBM is still around and still has salespeople, it might even have factories one day. Until then it needs wise financial decisions made. (Like investing in one of your own salespersons that was so dedicated you promoted him to the board! , oh wait lol logic)

/End analogy

Good luck with your new corporation, sincerely.
Most of all Zatara, good luck with morale.

If you have 10 members and are donating 90% of the corp profits to each be careful. If someone loans you the one billion I would advise you not to pay each member 100 million out of that on your first day as it only leaves you with 100 million plus a 900 million loan to repay. I guess you could beg for another billion but then who would be dumb enough? I guess you would have to build up enough land holdings, one at a time, and successfully WIN both attacks and defenses for a month or so, slowly paying down that debt, until finally you are out of the red. Maybe you will be lucky enough to have one of your members be such a d0uche that he decides he is entitled to a percentage of everything you have left when he leaves, and if you dont give it to him he will p1ss all over everything you have been through, building your corp together, fighting alongside you and make a huge whiney post about how much of a tyrant you are.... so if your members make 90% of your corps profit, are they also on the hook for its losses? If one district pays out 12 mil in clone sales per day and you have 24 members, that is 500k your corp can either pay down your loan with or start banking for a clone pack attack, 72 days between attacks is a long time, I hope no one attacks you, that you never lose, and that no one calls in vehicle's.

Most of all Zatara, good luck with morale.

I am one (a tool)

well, i saw the humor in it lol

i was chuckling the whole way down

Yeah zatara, instead of beating my head against the wall I will just let your 'analysis'(?) speak for itself. We are not on the same wavelength and apparently nearly speaking different languages. Your version of reality and understanding of corporate structuring, accounting and law does not coincide with mine so perhaps we can just accept it and move on.

Good luck again but I am going to leave the rest of this thread to your frustrations.

Zatara.... you have no right to judge anyone in this game.

The only thing you are good at is bitching on the forums and spamming grenades.... which is like being the best contestent at a **** sucking contest that's being judged by chicagoscrubs.