As someone who chose Amarr logi because of the sole purpose of getting 3 equipment slots while still maintaining a Light Weapon and a side arm...I support logi's only running sidearms.

This would in my opinion, change the game dramatically and come close, if not all the way, to solving the issue of logi's being better slayers.

Remove Supply Depots?

I should slap you really really really hard.

Aside from nanohives, those are the only things we're allowed to use to replenish ammo. I find myself running out of ammo all of the time and having to either run across the map or leave the battlefield for the safe zone JUST so I can replenish.

We should have more of them but with some type of cool down possibly.

Choo Choo! We have a checkin to dumdum central!

But whatever floats your boat and the remaining 2000 players that play this game.

PS: Incase you havent realized most tankers blow up supply depots. Enjoy you lollogic!

Quickscoping FTW!

I saw this and I stopped reading
I hope this is a troll thread because this wasn't the only horrible idea the OP gave.

just insulted my intelligence.

Even with the PS4 launch there's still a peak of around 4800-5200 at certain times of the day.

Yeah quick scoping requires skill and instinct. My bad if y'all lack those. Bad idea!

Lmao, that's why I can quick scope even though I never snipe? Snipers arnt ment for CQC, it sounds like you would like cod better.

Given that these 2 games are EoNs (see what I did here) apart there are quite a few in game features that would make Dust slightly better to digest.

1. A single grenade

Yes. In KZSF you get only 1 grenade. I know people with crappy gun game like Kujo, Andy and Zatara would hate this but its a good thing.

2. Focused maps i.e. either make a map/game mode infantry only or make it Vehicle/AV specific

Right now maps are a mix up of both infantry and vehicle. This promotes cheesy gameplay rather than actual skill. Having infantry only maps would allow the infantry folks to run and gun and be merry whilst having Vehicle specific maps/game modes would allow AV and Vehicles to duke it out. In the infantry maps on KZSF the snipers are actualy up close an personal sniping you in the face and not in the red zone. Quickscoping FTW!

3. No supply depots

Supply depots are home point promotes camping. Removing them would help focus more on Logi roles and bring out the snipers into the open.

4. Logi specific equipment

Logi's should be the only one carrying nanohives, nanite injectors, droplinks and reppers. This will make people play this role more.

5. Logi specific weapons

Since the Logi will be doing a lot support people, their weapons should be limited to sidearms only.

6. Drones

Do I really need to explain why?

7. Automatic shotguns

High damage with low range. Great for CQC.

2. Focused maps i.e. either make a map/game mode infantry only or make it Vehicle/AV specific

Right now maps are a mix up of both infantry and vehicle. This promotes cheesy gameplay rather than actual skill. Having infantry only maps would allow the infantry folks to run and gun and be merry whilst having Vehicle specific maps/game modes would allow AV and Vehicles to duke it out. In the infantry maps on KZSF the snipers are actualy up close an personal sniping you in the face and not in the red zone. Quickscoping FTW!
3. No supply depots

Supply depots are home point promotes camping. Removing them would help focus more on Logi roles and bring out the snipers into the open.

4. Logi specific equipment

Logi's should be the only one carrying nanohives, nanite injectors, droplinks and reppers. This will make people play this role more.

5. Logi specific weapons

Since the Logi will be doing a lot support people, their weapons should be limited to sidearms only.

I have gone 47-0 sniping in the middle of the battlefield on ground. Sleepy Zan also snipes on the ground. Real sniping takes skill. He is the only other sniper I have seen that doesnt perch up on top of the towers sniping down.

For both 4 and 5 you're singling out the logi for weapon and equipment changes while using KZ:SF as your guide, but why are you singling out the logi when EVERY class in KZ:SF has unique weapons and equipment, and not just the support class. Why don't you also suggest "scout specific weapons and equipment", "commando specific weapons and equipment", or "assault specific weapons and equipment", etc?

I've gotten similar scores with breach shotgun commando, you can do good with any setup considering how bad the average dust player is.

The current record for shotgun is 68-0 by Hiro Libery from Red Star Death Squad. When you beat that lets talk.

I don't play solo

Given that these 2 games are EoNs (see what I did here) apart there are quite a few in game features that would make Dust slightly better to digest.

1. A single grenade

Yes. In KZSF you get only 1 grenade. I know people with crappy gun game like Kujo, Andy and Zatara would hate this but its a good thing.

2. Focused maps i.e. either make a map/game mode infantry only or make it Vehicle/AV specific

Right now maps are a mix up of both infantry and vehicle. This promotes cheesy gameplay rather than actual skill. Having infantry only maps would allow the infantry folks to run and gun and be merry whilst having Vehicle specific maps/game modes would allow AV and Vehicles to duke it out. In the infantry maps on KZSF the snipers are actualy up close an personal sniping you in the face and not in the red zone. Quickscoping FTW!

3. No supply depots

Supply depots are home point promotes camping. Removing them would help focus more on Logi roles and bring out the snipers into the open.

4. Logi specific equipment

Logi's should be the only one carrying nanohives, nanite injectors, droplinks and reppers. This will make people play this role more.

5. Logi specific weapons

Since the Logi will be doing a lot support people, their weapons should be limited to sidearms only.

6. Drones

Do I really need to explain why?

7. Automatic shotguns

High damage with low range. Great for CQC.

Like I said before you either got skill or ya dont. Skilled players dont need their boyfriends aroudn helping them out.

Things like going 68-0 and quickscoping dudes out of LAVs or sniping people in freefall takes skill.

you forgot the choice of whether you want to be revived or not

Yep, cod is definitely the game for you. Dust is all about team worst.

See this is why I love the logic in Dust forums. This numnut cant get the better of me verbally and he accuses me of being a COD fanboi when the topic itself compares DUST 514 with KZSF (Killzone Shadowfall).

Sure thing Dorskter514! Whatever you say!

See this is why I love the logic in Dust forums. This numnut cant get the better of me verbally and he accuses me of being a COD fanboi when the topic itself compares DUST 514 with KZSF (Killzone Shadowfall).

Sure thing Dorskter514! Whatever you say!

I am using the Logis as a baseline. If you play or ever played LOLPC almost everyone is a Logi. Weapons should be like ships in Eve;- race specific. If you are skilled into Caldari ARs, you should be using caldari ARs. All classes need to be changed.

For example;- Assaults should have no equipment. Scouts should have 2 equipment slots for Scanners, REs and Proxies. Heavies should be able to carry all 3 types of grenades;- after all they are supposed to go toe to toe with a tank.

In addition to that why have an Assault Suit when everyone can go Amarr Logi and carry a Primary and a sidearm? You dont need anything other suit IMHO.

CCP in trying to please the masses has got the roles confused. They nerfed the Cal Logi;- but has that stopped people from using it. Till I stopped playing Dust I was trolling with my Militia heavy with a single damage mod and laser rifle. Try that out and see how OP that **** is.

As long as these combinations are available you will always have a FOTM.

Snipers arnt ment for CQC.

if it can be used in the situation then it must be meant for the situation.