DUST Search - Range of Vehicle Ammo Resupply from Depots in 1.7

Jadek Menaheim wrote:

I can't seem to get an answer on this CCP.

Are any changes being introduced for the resupply range when approaching a Supply Depot for ammo in 1.7? The current distance for depot-to-vehicle repairs feels terribly close in the context of repairing a dropship. You practically need to be touching the depot to see an effect. I can foresee some major problems with pilot blindspots when multiple dropships need to resupply ammo in addition to armor from the same station at those distances.

Suggestion 1: We either need a wide berth bubble resupply system or some modicum of air-traffic control light indicators. Multiple dropship entering the same airspace without guaranteed communication abilities is going to equal unnecessary frustration for pilots.

Suggestion 2: Develop a small socket single landing pad. I'm sure this has been brought up elsewhere. Landing pads themselves would be large variations of supply depots that once docked with would begin repairing, replenishing ammo, and even giving stat buffs with a cool-down timer. Lastly I would like to see these landing pads become activated CRUs, when a dropship is docked, immediately spawning mercs into the dropship either through smart deploy or selected deploy.

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Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 406	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:28:00 - [1] - Quote I can't seem to get an answer on this CCP. Are any changes being introduced for the resupply range when approaching a Supply Depot for ammo in 1.7? The current distance for depot-to-vehicle repairs feels terribly close in the context of repairing a dropship. You practically need to be touching the depot to see an effect. I can foresee some major problems with pilot blindspots when multiple dropships need to resupply ammo in addition to armor from the same station at those distances. Edit: We either need a wide berth bubble resupply system or some modicum of air-traffic control light indicators. Multiple dropship entering the same airspace without guaranteed communication abilities is going to equal unnecessary frustration for pilots. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
dogmanpig black market bank 49	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:32:00 - [2] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: I can't seem to get an answer on this CCP. Are any changes being introduced for the resupply range when approaching a Supply Depot for ammo in 1.7? The current distance for depot-to-vehicle repairs feels terribly close in the context of repairing a dropship. You practically need to be touching the depot to see an effect. I can foresee some major problems with pilot blindspots when multiple dropships need to resupply ammo in addition to armor from the same station at those distances. you get "better" range from touching the same ground as them. im pretty sure the range its off of the x axis plus y axis( two lines forming a right angle while the read out show straight toward it) meh something for the devs to check since it'll be really important now. You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 7 1/3 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 406	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:38:00 - [3] - Quote dogmanpig wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: I can't seem to get an answer on this CCP. Are any changes being introduced for the resupply range when approaching a Supply Depot for ammo in 1.7? The current distance for depot-to-vehicle repairs feels terribly close in the context of repairing a dropship. You practically need to be touching the depot to see an effect. I can foresee some major problems with pilot blindspots when multiple dropships need to resupply ammo in addition to armor from the same station at those distances. you get "better" range from touching the same ground as them. im pretty sure the range its off of the x axis plus y axis( two lines forming a right angle while the read out show straight toward it) meh something for the devs to check since it'll be really important now. On a side note the new Gallente research medium socket modules place supply depots in the darnedest places for pilots to reach, (i.e. on small platform buildings) making ground landing quite tricky especially when you are low on armor to begin with. Devs, please increase the count of supply depots and place them near friendly, easy to navigate landing zones. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2258	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:39:00 - [4] - Quote They don't care about dropship or they'd have thought of this long ago Expect a fix in 2 years. Still waiting for them to fix bugged turret rotation.
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 181	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:40:00 - [5] - Quote Ideally, I would suggest a friendly small socket type that has four ground level landing pads in a four leaf clover design with a supply depot in the center. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 407	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:41:00 - [6] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: They don't care about dropship or they'd have thought of this long ago Expect a fix in 2 years. Still waiting for them to fix bugged turret rotation. Let's at least make some noise about it now. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2259	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:43:00 - [7] - Quote all along Ive been told hovering a DS was the antitheses of a good pilot Now we have to stop every 1 minute and fly back to a predictable spot for more ammo, Which won't even exist in Ambush and so no flying there. (mean while infantry get all the Hives they need to keep alive) But now I get to line myself up for easy Nades, buffed Large Rails that could already 2 shot most DS, forges, swarm spam and friendly tanks colliding because the range is terrible and you nearly have to be on the ground Noob dropships flying into you when you're restocking because you both have to be within 2 feet of the depot. Does ccp ever give DropShips anything other than an after thought? Seriously just remove them till you're ready. Ill come back and test the game in 4 years when you have racial stuff and more than 3 vehicles. When you actually give pause to think about how huge changes will affect pilots When your idea of an update consists of content to spend SP on, and not stretching out current content and scaling future content beyond comprehensible SP costs. Can you imagine what it will cost to be a hybrid shield-armor DS pilot with one dropship and one jet? What's it gonna be 60 mil SP? Lol yeah. Don't think that'll fly.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 407	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:43:00 - [8] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: Ideally, I would suggest a friendly small socket type that has four ground level landing pads in a four leaf clover design with a supply depot in the center. Yes, that sounds nice on paper for cover more ships, it doesn't address the problems of close proximity landings and take-off. We'll be running into the 'RDV' debacle all over again. Just this time we'll be calling each other drunk assholes. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2259	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:47:00 - [9] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: They don't care about dropship or they'd have thought of this long ago Expect a fix in 2 years. Still waiting for them to fix bugged turret rotation. Let's at least make some noise about it now. Ive been making noise about their turret bug for 6 months. No fix, not even a comment response. Without going into a profanity filled rant about the dev team's inexcusable failure to communicate, or design teams laughable redrawing of the game 10x, all at the cost of years of new content... I think I'll just go play Dark Souls II. They can make an entire, finished game, with all content faster than CCP will ever fix half the things in Dust. 1.7 is it. It does not look good. And I don't think myself, or any other pilot will be interested in wasting our time with this game when they see how things really play out. Especially the new SP cost design. Its prohibitive of any real options EVER. As well as nerfing slot numbers and raising PG-CPU requirements. let the game burn if 1.7 fails are had as it may
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2260	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:49:00 - [10] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: Ideally, I would suggest a friendly small socket type that has four ground level landing pads in a four leaf clover design with a supply depot in the center. Yes, that sounds nice on paper for cover more ships, it doesn't address the problems of close proximity landings and take-off. We'll be running into the 'RDV' debacle all over again. Just this time we'll be calling each other drunk assholes. With every word more that I read about 1.7 I'm inclined to find better ways to invest my time. Or spend all my SP into red-line rail tanks and troll the ever living ** out of the sorry suckers who still play this game after CCP **s over all pilots so hard again. pathetic joke this has become

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 407	Posted - 2013.11.20 06:51:00 - [11] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: They don't care about dropship or they'd have thought of this long ago Expect a fix in 2 years. Still waiting for them to fix bugged turret rotation. Let's at least make some noise about it now. Ive been making noise about their turret bug for 6 months. No fix, not even a comment response. Without going into a profanity filled rant about the dev team's inexcusable failure to communicate, or design teams laughable redrawing of the game 10x, all at the cost of years of new content... I think I'll just go play Dark Souls II. They can make an entire, finished game, with all content faster than CCP will ever fix half the things in Dust. 1.7 is it. It does not look good. And I don't think myself, or any other pilot will be interested in wasting our time with this game when they see how things really play out. Especially the new SP cost design. Its prohibitive of any real options EVER. As well as nerfing slot numbers and raising PG-CPU requirements. let the game burn if 1.7 fails are had as it may Well at least they gave us the option to take out turrets. However, that's a mixed bag because taking out turrets eliminates seats. So the best dropship pilots can be are gimped reconnaissance taxis. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 181	Posted - 2013.11.20 07:09:00 - [12] - Quote You are able to remove small turrets...so does that mean you can remove the pilot's gun on an Assault dropship? Is so...where does the pilot sit, lolz? GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 407	Posted - 2013.11.20 07:10:00 - [13] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: You are able to remove small turrets...so does that mean you can remove the pilot's gun on an Assault dropship? Is so...where does the pilot sit, lolz? Oh...I have faith the CCP at least planed for that contingency. Otherwise, you have no Assault Dropship without a pilot's seat. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 181	Posted - 2013.11.20 07:12:00 - [14] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: You are able to remove small turrets...so does that mean you can remove the pilot's gun on an Assault dropship? Is so...where does the pilot sit, lolz? Oh...I have faith the CCP at least planed for that contingency. Otherwise, you have no Assault Dropship without a pilot's seat. Unless it's controlled by a drone AI!!! Omniscient Turret AI for all teh wins bro! GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 407	Posted - 2013.11.20 07:14:00 - [15] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: Unless it's controlled by a drone AI!!! Omniscient Turret AI for all teh wins bro! Oh God Jadu, you're starting to sound more like Pewdiepie.... [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 181	Posted - 2013.11.20 07:20:00 - [16] - Quote He's my man with the falsetta and vendetta and the beretta and that .... oh I give up .... have to get offline and help organize a quincetta. Oh snap. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 410	Posted - 2013.11.20 16:27:00 - [17] - Quote Anyways...I would suggest CCP develop a small socket single landing pad along the lines of what Jadu was getting at. I'm sure this has been brought up elsewhere. Landing pads themselves would be large variations of supply depots that once docked with would begin repairing, replenishing ammo, and even giving stat buffs with a cool-down timer. Lastly I would like to see these landing pads become activated CRU, when a dropship is docked, immediately spawning mercs into the dropship either through smart deploy or selected deploy. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1123	Posted - 2013.11.20 16:34:00 - [18] - Quote LOL I know that I will be boobytrapping the ground around Supply Depots with proxies. IDK if that would be considered griefing or just intelligent... Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 410	Posted - 2013.11.20 16:38:00 - [19] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: LOL I know that I will be boobytrapping the ground around Supply Depots with proxies. IDK if that would be considered griefing or just intelligent... A bit of both. And don't worry I'll be doing that too. I'm just working on planning my configuration schemes. You've got to make a nicely spaced web of death that'll stand up to fluxes and missiles. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2916	Posted - 2013.11.20 16:38:00 - [20] - Quote Well, ambush mode might be a little vehicle free, so that's good thing for the people that hate vehicles in ambush. I hate ambush so I don't really care.

Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1049	Posted - 2013.11.20 16:39:00 - [21] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: I can't seem to get an answer on this CCP. Are any changes being introduced for the resupply range when approaching a Supply Depot for ammo in 1.7? The current distance for depot-to-vehicle repairs feels terribly close in the context of repairing a dropship. You practically need to be touching the depot to see an effect. I can foresee some major problems with pilot blindspots when multiple dropships need to resupply ammo in addition to armor from the same station at those distances. Suggestion 1: We either need a wide berth bubble resupply system or some modicum of air-traffic control light indicators. Multiple dropship entering the same airspace without guaranteed communication abilities is going to equal unnecessary frustration for pilots. Suggestion 2: Develop a small socket single landing pad. I'm sure this has been brought up elsewhere. Landing pads themselves would be large variations of supply depots that once docked with would begin repairing, replenishing ammo, and even giving stat buffs with a cool-down timer. Lastly I would like to see these landing pads become activated CRUs, when a dropship is docked, immediately spawning mercs into the dropship either through smart deploy or selected deploy. I rather like to think theres not gonna be any CRU's to get your ammo & repairs from, Tankers have been klling resuply points for 10 months now, my bet is we will see allot of forge guns at the start of a game. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 410	Posted - 2013.11.20 16:41:00 - [22] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: I rather like to think theres not gonna be any CRU's to get your ammo & repairs from, Tankers have been klling resuply points for 10 months now, my bet is we will see allot of forge guns at the start of a game. Oh how the tables have turned. I do imagine there will come a time when you can call in the placements of your own installations. However that may still be years off. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 184	Posted - 2013.11.20 16:42:00 - [23] - Quote The installations in your own red-zone should be safe...but that helps faster vehicles more than anything. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1713	Posted - 2013.11.20 16:45:00 - [24] - Quote Currently my vehicle cannot climb stairs to the depot So all depots need to be moved If no depots exists in either redline then recalling the vehicle will happen or you bring one out with a ammo resupply mod Either way depots will still be trashed anyways
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 410	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:36:00 - [25] - Quote If we did go with a bubble resupply approach similar to how hives supply infantry what do people feel would be an adequate range...20m radius...30m radius? [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1124	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:42:00 - [26] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: LOL I know that I will be boobytrapping the ground around Supply Depots with proxies. IDK if that would be considered griefing or just intelligent... A bit of both. And don't worry I'll be doing that too. I'm just working on planning my configuration schemes. You've got to make a nicely spaced web of death that'll stand up to fluxes and missiles. I know that I'll probably be dancing a black spiral of vehicle death around Supply Depots. Not to mention mines on landing pads if we get them... Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 419	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:49:00 - [27] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I know that I'll probably be dancing a black spiral of vehicle death around Supply Depots. Not to mention mines on landing pads if we get them... At least landing pads are open 'more' visible surfaces compared to people hiding REs under supply depots. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 184	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:51:00 - [28] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I know that I'll probably be dancing a black spiral of vehicle death around Supply Depots. Not to mention mines on landing pads if we get them... At least landing pads are open 'more' visible surfaces compared to people hiding REs under supply depots. Would REs even render for pilots? That's my problem right there. How do you prepare against something that you cannon see and cannot scan? GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1126	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:56:00 - [29] - Quote Oh, I can see it now, 1.7 is going to be so much fun..... DEATH TO ALL RED VEHICLES!!!!!!! Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 442	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:40:00 - [30] - Quote Still trying to get a gauge on this. Could a CPM please poke a developer on this topic? It would be much appreciated. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]



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