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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1247
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:36:00 -
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And modules don't change much, the Gunnlogi will be the way of the future.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2858
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:38:00 -
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So, like old times then?
Haha I remember when I used to be a tanker, I named my Sagaris the Honey Badger. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
983
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:39:00 -
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What makes you say that?
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Foundation Seldon
Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords
194
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:40:00 -
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I'm inclined to agree for general purpose Tanking (infantry slaying).
You'll see Madrugars on the field as the primary choice for Redline Railing due to Damage Mods being high slots though.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
637
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:44:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:What makes you say that? stats look better overall. passive armor reps are slow, too slow. maxxed out cores a gunny can push 60% damage reduction for 30 seconds and boost out 1950 or so (sry not looking at the stat sheet) in a second flat. not to mention it's faster and ammo additions don't cut it's tank.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:46:00 -
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Does it even matter?
No it honestly wont.
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
983
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:48:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:What makes you say that? stats look better overall. passive armor reps are slow, too slow. maxxed out cores a gunny can push 60% damage reduction for 30 seconds and boost out 1950 or so (sry not looking at the stat sheet) in a second flat. not to mention it's faster and ammo additions don't cut it's tank.
Except that a skilled complex heavy armor repairer actually repairs at a faster rate than the natural shield regeneration of the Gungglogi. I believe its 181 HP/s compared to the 165 that the shield tank can output, and that's 100% of the time, where shields are subject to recharge delay. While a 4 second delay is not very long, there are some very basic tactics that can thwart that.
The point of the matter is that while shield tanks can do a single boost with a long cooldown, they're incapable of handling sustained fire which makes them very poor against infantry at close range. Also I think you're misreading the Shield Hardeners, they reduce damage by 40%, not 60%. Armor hardeners reduce by 60%, last longer, and cool down faster.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1247
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:49:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:What makes you say that? The fitting tool Harpyja made.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1120
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:07:00 -
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Some good things about this is that both Madrugars and Gunnlogies will share the same skill, meaning other tankers can use both types of HAVs without having to invest insane amounts of SP.
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:10:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:What makes you say that? The fitting tool Harpyja made. link to fitting tool please..
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
984
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:13:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:What makes you say that? The fitting tool Harpyja made. link to fitting tool please..
Sticky at the top of the GD
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118820&find=unread
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
1881
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:14:00 -
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You forget 1 little thing: the forgegun hasnt beeing touched yet in any kind to damage output. If it stays like now you are just driving a big coffin. Sure swarms are "lol worthy" but who needs swarms if you die in 3 shots from a ishukone assault forgegun?
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
984
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:18:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:You forget 1 little thing: the forgegun hasnt beeing touched yet in any kind to damage output. If it stays like now you are just driving a big coffin. Sure swarms are "lol worthy" but who needs swarms if you die in 3 shots from a ishukone assault forgegun?
Yes you are absolutely correct. With the proposed setup, Shield vehicles are exceptionally susceptible to burst damage like a forge gun.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
94
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:40:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:I'm inclined to agree for general purpose Tanking (infantry slaying).
You'll see Madrugars on the field as the primary choice for Redline Railing due to Damage Mods being high slots though. rails should have 200-300m range then, or 250 |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
822
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:48:00 -
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My Forge Gun is ready.
"I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
987
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:53:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:I'm inclined to agree for general purpose Tanking (infantry slaying).
You'll see Madrugars on the field as the primary choice for Redline Railing due to Damage Mods being high slots though. rails should have 200-300m range then, or 250
Honestly you should be more worried about Large Missile turrets. If they behave as the Dev table imply, they're going to be completely terrifying.
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Some good things about this is that both Madrugars and Gunnlogies will share the same skill, meaning other tankers can use both types of HAVs without having to invest insane amounts of SP.
Message from Godin: You must have forgot about tank and turret skills..... |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
94
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:55:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:My Forge Gun is ready. im sorry to inform you, the forge gun isn't as tough as he thought he was, str lowered from 50>35, he's scared to fight both infrantry and vehicles better than anyone else, DWGR removed too. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
94
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:57:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:I'm inclined to agree for general purpose Tanking (infantry slaying).
You'll see Madrugars on the field as the primary choice for Redline Railing due to Damage Mods being high slots though. rails should have 200-300m range then, or 250 Honestly you should be more worried about Large Missile turrets. If they behave as the Dev table imply, they're going to be completely terrifying. yes, but are slower and take more skill to use at range than rails, and reload alot, rails are easy, maybe nerf missile dmg a little |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
822
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Posted - 2013.11.18 05:58:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: im sorry to inform you, the forge gun isn't as tough as he thought he was, str lowered from 50>35, he's scared to fight both infrantry and vehicles better than anyone else, DWGR removed too.
Ha, that's funny. I see more HAVs tucking tail against single infantry than FGers against both vehicles and infantry.
"I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
94
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Posted - 2013.11.18 06:03:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: im sorry to inform you, the forge gun isn't as tough as he thought he was, str lowered from 50>35, he's scared to fight both infrantry and vehicles better than anyone else, DWGR removed too.
Ha, that's funny. I see more HAVs tucking tail against single infantry than FGers against both vehicles and infantry. thanks, explain the tucking part? |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
822
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Posted - 2013.11.18 06:05:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: thanks, explain the tucking part?
"Tucking tail" is a figure of speech meaning "running away".
"I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
94
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Posted - 2013.11.18 06:09:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: thanks, explain the tucking part?
"Tucking tail" is a figure of speech meaning "running away". oh, well atleast forge guns cant hold the best shi...weapon anymore, not enough str, you need 50 for it, now it has to use medium power, between light and heavy shi...weapon.... |
Rusty Shallows
511
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Posted - 2013.11.18 06:14:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:And modules don't change much, the Gunnlogi will be the way of the future. The Gunlogi has served time in the penalty box. Time to let it out again.
Sgt Kirk wrote:So, like old times then?
snip Only if the Dev's mess up the game balance... again
"She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
94
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Posted - 2013.11.18 06:17:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:And modules don't change much, the Gunnlogi will be the way of the future. The Gunlogi has served time in the penalty box. Time to let it out again. Sgt Kirk wrote:So, like old times then?
snip Only if the Dev's mess up the game balance... again this time it will be tank, prob maddi, railing with dmg mods in redline, rails need a max of 300m range |
Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.11.18 06:45:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:And modules don't change much, the Gunnlogi will be the way of the future.
I cant wait to rep Caldari with some really HAV |
Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1005
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:06:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:And modules don't change much, the Gunnlogi will be the way of the future.
Am i going to get QQ mail again from you when i solo-r*pe your side of the berries again, while you sit in a tank and finally are able to kill me once after i stand still for 5 seconds so your aim could catch up?
You guys are hilarious.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:13:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Some good things about this is that both Madrugars and Gunnlogies will share the same skill, meaning other tankers can use both types of HAVs without having to invest insane amounts of SP. Caldari LAV 3 and Gallente LAV 3 were not a lot. You know nothing about tanking. Please stop.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:13:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:What makes you say that? The fitting tool Harpyja made. link to fitting tool please.. It's stickied on the top of General Discussions.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.18 07:15:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Atiim wrote:Some good things about this is that both Madrugars and Gunnlogies will share the same skill, meaning other tankers can use both types of HAVs without having to invest insane amounts of SP. Message from Godin: You must have forgot about tank and turret skills..... And everything else related to vehicles because he's not a tanker.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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