It's pathetic on a much higher level that you relate proto stomping to beating your kids...

but.... the more proto I wear the more WP I get, and the more SP I earn. No one in this game can say they refuse and wisely want less SP.

My proto hives/uplinks/etc. fit better on a proto suit.
My proto gun kills quicker and therefore more SP.
The game then becomes to kill the lesser( std and adv. suits) faster then my teammates...so a challenge still exists...it just isn't determined by my victims.
Do I find myself ever running BPO's? Once in a while when I play alone...but I rarely play alone as I have friends and corp mates. This is a squad based shooter. Actually any fps I ever play is only with friends...(social and micced)

Solution?
Separate skill tiers.
Pretty sure player count can not handle any separation.

My hope...
Introduce a no capped or advanced SP system for noobs and advertise the hell out of the game. When player counts can sustian separation implement it.
The complaints will die if everyone has the option of proto gear...that should be the goal.

Excuses excuses at least go play PC instead of pub matches and FW.

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1. I don't have any children

2. As somebody else has understood .. the point I was making is that somethings are wrong and you shouldn't be so immature as to need an outside force to physically stop you being able to do it !

So true. People who claim that this kind of analogy is valid are fools. Kicking someones butt in a videogame is in no way relate to real life. Not only does it cause no physical pain to the asskickee it should cause no mental anguish either. This is just a game after all.

If people are too stupid to be able to separate reality from games in such a way that they suffer serious mental distress from getting proto stomped then they don't have the maturity to play video games and should take up a "less strenuous" hobby like filling in coloring books.

It seems like the current trend in video games is that they can be beaten, which I take real issue with. Thanks to video games being intended to be beaten we get all sorts of kids complaining when someone hands them their ass in a multiplayer game. Back in the good old days video games weren't meant to be beaten. They were hard. You had to work for a long time to get good enough to actually get through a level let alone the impossibly long and complex game.

CCP don't pander to video gamings wussy majority. Make the game hard. Force players to compete using actual skill and continue to reward those who stick with the game. We don't need another ego boosting powder puff game.

I had written a response to all the points you made but then I realised that I reported your main for trolling and am the reason why you got banned and have had to resort to posting on an alt

I already know based on your history on these forums that all you do is troll and you clearly either are too ignorant to see the actual problem with protostomping or are just trolling and either way it is pointless to continue discussing the issue with you any further so I bid you adieu

I have the skills to use the best gear.


I have the money to use the best gear.


I know the risks of using the best gear.


So I use it. What's wrong with that?


If CCP takes away the ability to Protostomp, the game will no longer be fun. Honestly, I'd rather fight Protostompers (had some relatively close matches against TP and AE in FW lately) and actually have a challenge than completely redline someone.

the reason people complain about protostomping in pubgames is that it's the easy thing to do .. it avoids the concept of being challenged .. if these guys wanted a challenge why would they run their most expensive gear against less skilled and less geared players ???? Surely they'd be doing PC/FW against better skilled and better geared opponents but no .. they go to the 1 place new players go to learn and play the game to get easy kills

FW used to be the proto ground...but lately it has been invaded...my squads seek out good fw games. If we see 1 race losing we play for them. It would be nice to bring back vets and protos and have the FW be the mode of choice.

7 of my 8 fits are based around the Minmatar Medium mk.0 suit...

all with the combo of 4 complex Damage mods + 1 Enhanced depending on which weapon is fitted to it....and whatever other 2 mods I put in the low slots....

they range from 100,600 isk to 142,800 isk....per death...

sometimes I don't die..(Sniper), sometimes I die 10-15 times..(Frontline)....

why ???

because I can afford to...that's why.....

when I get the SP for a Proto Heavy suit it will be 8 for 8.....

I make a challenge to all the players using proto gear

Use adv gear and see if you do the same numbers. If not, it's a crutch. Because once those new players who hold their own now get proto gear, you're ******.

It's funny cause those same protobears you see now will just leave to a new game once they realize their gear doesn't give them a clear advantage.

I don't use my 2 proto suits in pubs because I don't need to, to go 25-3. I do it with skill alone. Ask the guys in WR and Dios the whooping I gave them in adv.

Dying 10-15 times with a medium proto suit? Thats kinda sad

Even for grinding between football games... proto more likely to get me the 1000 WP. Makes for more efficient time.

But I will put together a cheap suit for the challenge...might feel good to make isk in a match or two.

I dont know what the big fuzz is about.
Some people play full proto even in pub matches, wich i consider a try-hard-ish thing to do SPEACIALLY if you are playing with your squad...but its in the game,so use it.

Funny story:
Yesterday i was vs a squad of Fully Proto copr memeber who wont be mentioned since they roam aroudn in the forums too,but you know who you are.

GÖª I was getting Proto/squad stomped while playing as a/with randoms
GÖª Research lab map
GÖª Go take A AND B
GÖª Got murdered 3 times in a ROW.
GÖª Took D
GÖª 2 LAV's came, 6 proto dudes f*sted me butt
GÖª 4 deaths , 200 WP, mid game through.
GÖª About to rage quit
GÖª lightbulb over my head
GÖª I dont like playing like this but well.
GÖª Amarr Logi+Cx Profile dampner+R/E+Core Locus Grenades+Quantum active scanner+nanohives +Mass Driver. 600EHP.
GÖª Take C
GÖª Stay inside scannig
GÖª 2 LAVs approach
GÖª drop R/Es in one entrance
GÖª 3 proto guys dead.
GÖª Run upstairs
GÖª Cook grenade
GÖªEverybody f***d up
GÖª Start mashing R1
GÖª Got 3 More kills

This went on until i reached 25-4 and they still, send me RAGE mail. Saying how I was a coward and i should learn gun game.

LOL. Im a problem solver thats all....

What more likely to cause noobs to quit?

"oh my gosh! hes wearing proto stuff that ill be able to use in a few weeks!"

or

"I don't use my 2 proto suits in pubs because I don't need to, to go 25-3. I do it with skill alone. Ask the guys in WR and Dios the whooping I gave them in adv."

Played PC since it started, ring regularly. Guess what, not enough business to go around.

Go into FW, and lo! there before me is a whole sea of complete bums, red line sniping at the start of the match, never capping a flag, zerging out of a cru into a spawn camp.

Because they screw up my attempt to not play pubs, I then proceed to head into the pubs to make my money back.

Scrubs will die no matter what they wear, and bargain players trying to eke out ISK will get what they paid for.

Every time I see a MLT or STD suit in FW, I proceed to play 10 pubs in full proto just to make you cry.

Now go spread the gospel amongst the other cowards and crybabies to stay in pubs, and never venture into FW. Then maybe, once I no longer have to deal with idiots who don't actually play to win, I will stay out of pubs.

What more likely to cause noobs to quit?

"oh my gosh! hes wearing proto stuff that ill be able to use in a few weeks!"

or

"I don't use my 2 proto suits in pubs because I don't need to, to go 25-3. I do it with skill alone. Ask the guys in WR and Dios the whooping I gave them in adv."

Umm .. how is running in a full squad of proto killing a team of random blueberries in militia gear an indicator of skill ?

Way to mix the arguments up ... the reason people complain about protostomping in pubgames is that it's the easy thing to do .. it avoids the concept of being challenged .. if these guys wanted a challenge why would they run their most expensive gear against less skilled and less geared players ???? Surely they'd be doing PC/FW against better skilled and better geared opponents but no .. they go to the 1 place new players go to learn and play the game to get easy kills