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ThePlayerkyle13
D3LTA ACADEMY
6
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:19:00 -
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So far since i ranked my Character up with lvl 5 Amarr Logistics including Dropsuit Armor upgrade & Armor Repair Skills, My character is like God (most of the time). I use 2 different of the same Weapon Variants one for sniping & other is for Medium - Close range, the weapon is a Scrambler Rifle the original is a Semi-Auto Charge up Proto Variant, while the Proto Assault Variant is an Full-Auto (Their is an Advanced version of the Variant), i also use a Proto variant of the Scrambler Pistol which i may say is very good for Headshot kills. The SR, SP & DS has served me well, when i get shot by ARs it's like they are resistant to my DS & doesn't do any DMG towards me, the only time i'll die is if i was ganged up or if their was a tank in the area...
But this is my Experience with this Loadout, it's very good Anti-Infantry Loadout.
What Loadout do you think is best? |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1651
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:27:00 -
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Shhh don't tell the callogis us amarr logis are better
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1050
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:29:00 -
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Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO.
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ThePlayerkyle13
D3LTA ACADEMY
8
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:30:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Shhh don't tell the callogis us amarr logis are better Oops |
ThePlayerkyle13
D3LTA ACADEMY
8
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:34:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO.
I do like the hacking speed skill in the Minmitar Logi Variant... |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2201
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:34:00 -
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Amarr logi is the best advanced logi while minmatar are the best proto logis in my opinion |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Proficiency V.
138
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:36:00 -
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Gallente logis at proto level is the best suit in the game right now |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1050
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:36:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO. I do like the hacking speed skill in the Minmatar Logi Variant... Yes,and they can come in handy when your hacking an objective and don't want someone to spawn in behind you.
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Argent Mordred
DUST University Ivy League
14
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:37:00 -
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As an Amarr, aren't you committing blasphemy? It has been nice meeting you, tell the inquisitors I said hi. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2201
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:37:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Gallente logis at proto level is the best suit in the game right now Actually yea nevermind gallente logi is the best proto logi with minmatar behind them. |
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1050
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:37:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Amarr logi is the best advanced logi while Minmatar are the best proto logis in my opinion I think Amarr ADV logistics needs to be changed.
They sacrifice absolutely nothing at the ADV level in comparison to the other roles.
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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ThePlayerkyle13
D3LTA ACADEMY
8
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO. I do like the hacking speed skill in the Minmatar Logi Variant... Yes,and they can come in handy when your hacking an objective and don't want someone to spawn in behind you.
That is annoying & tense, just crossing your fingers hoping that you don't get shot in the head... |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Proficiency V.
138
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:39:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Gallente logis at proto level is the best suit in the game right now Actually yea nevermind gallente logi is the best proto logi with minmatar behind them.
its because they can stack armor plates and damage mods on their suit, there is no need for a armor repairer when they can carry nano hives that heal them |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
1494
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO. Don't forget the sidearm.
But I, personally, like the Minmatar slot layout. At Proto it's 4/4/4, correct? That could make for some interesting combinations.
I also like the Caldari Assault's slot layout. I could do 500+ damage with Proto Swarms on a Caldari Assault suit :D
ö/\ö :D
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
1494
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Amarr logi is the best advanced logi while Minmatar are the best proto logis in my opinion I think Amarr ADV logistics needs to be changed. They sacrifice absolutely nothing at the ADV level in comparison to the other roles. Well? They are the only ones to have a Sidearm, they only have 3 equipment slots, the Proto variant is not much better than the Advanced, and the PG gimp gives me major problems when fitting anything.
I see nothing wrong with it.
ö/\ö :D
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2202
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Amarr logi is the best advanced logi while Minmatar are the best proto logis in my opinion I think Amarr ADV logistics needs to be changed. They sacrifice absolutely nothing at the ADV level in comparison to the other roles. Actually Amarr logis have the lowest cpu and pg of all the logis I believe. |
ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
48
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:51:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:So far since i ranked my Character up with lvl 5 Amarr Logistics including Dropsuit Armor upgrade & Armor Repair Skills, My character is like God (most of the time). I use 2 different of the same Weapon Variants one for sniping & other is for Medium - Close range, the weapon is a Scrambler Rifle the original is a Semi-Auto Charge up Proto Variant, while the Proto Assault Variant is an Full-Auto (Their is an Advanced version of the Variant), i also use a Proto variant of the Scrambler Pistol which i may say is very good for Headshot kills. The SR, SP & DS has served me well, when i get shot by ARs it's like they are resistant to my DS & doesn't do any DMG towards me, the only time i'll die is if i was ganged up or if their was a tank in the area...
But this is my Experience with this Loadout, it's very good Anti-Infantry Loadout.
What Loadout do you think is best?
AMarr Logi is THE BEST ADV suit by far.
At proto level, Both Gallente or Caldari logi are better.... :/
AMarr AK.0
x2 Complex Armor repairers x2 Enhanced Armor plates x3 Complex Shield extenders
At max level this leaves you with 20 PG and around 170 CPU to equip weapons and equipment (i've used ADV Quantum active scanner,nanohives, ADV AR, Six kin SMG)
The good thing about this loadout is that gives you around 830 total EHP, 17 shield regen PER SEC, and most importantly: 20 Armor repair rate per second.
Have fun... |
ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
48
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:51:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Atiim wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Amarr logi is the best advanced logi while Minmatar are the best proto logis in my opinion I think Amarr ADV logistics needs to be changed. They sacrifice absolutely nothing at the ADV level in comparison to the other roles. Actually Amarr logis have the lowest cpu and pg of all the logis I believe.
Lowest CPU: Cal logis (Thats why they have an extra low slot,to equip CPU enhancers ,duh) Lowest PG: Amarr Logi |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
1496
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:53:00 -
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Don't forget that the Minmatar Logi is better by far as well. With the hacking bonus and the 4/4/4 layout, it's just so versatile.
ö/\ö :D
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
48
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:56:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Don't forget that the Minmatar Logi is better by far as well. With the hacking bonus and the 4/4/4 layout, it's just so versatile.
True, i didnt mention the Matari logi because i was aiming for the assault side XD
Cal and Gallente logi are the Best proto assault suits XD The Minmatar logi is the best Scout suit... XD |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2206
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:07:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Atiim wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Amarr logi is the best advanced logi while Minmatar are the best proto logis in my opinion I think Amarr ADV logistics needs to be changed. They sacrifice absolutely nothing at the ADV level in comparison to the other roles. Actually Amarr logis have the lowest cpu and pg of all the logis I believe. Lowest CPU: Cal logis (Thats why they have an extra low slot,to equip CPU enhancers ,duh) Lowest PG: Amarr Logi Yea Iwasn't 100% sure about that. I couldn't check since my TV broke down the other day. |
Blaze Ashra
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:11:00 -
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Basic I'd say minmatar are best logi. Advanced would be Amarr/minmatar Proto would be galantte or caldari.
Just my opinion. |
superjoe360x
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
119
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO. Lmao yeah man and min gets no sidearm. When im holding a point with my massdriver and you come after me or get in my face I have a prof sixkin for you to eat bullets. What does a min have. Um nothing. I could destroy your puny Minnie logi anyday anytime and make you eat that statement. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
136
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:32:00 -
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Cal assault sheild tanking , with reactives and ferroscale
Christ is lord
Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now.
Dust should add open world , kinda like arma!
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Knight Soiaire
R 0 N 1 N
3333
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:33:00 -
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superjoe360x wrote:Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO. Lmao yeah man and min gets no sidearm. When im holding a point with my massdriver and you come after me or get in my face I have a prof sixkin for you to eat bullets. What does a min have. Um nothing. I could destroy your puny Minnie logi anyday anytime and make you eat that statement.
You dont need a Sidearm as long as you've got a good primary.
Thanks for the hotfix CCP, Light Frames having 20m scan was so OP!
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Tectonic Fusion
569
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Posted - 2013.11.17 02:17:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:superjoe360x wrote:Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO. Lmao yeah man and min gets no sidearm. When im holding a point with my massdriver and you come after me or get in my face I have a prof sixkin for you to eat bullets. What does a min have. Um nothing. I could destroy your puny Minnie logi anyday anytime and make you eat that statement. You dont need a Sidearm as long as you've got a good primary. As long as your in a group and not going solo, this is true.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.17 02:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Amarr logi is the best advanced logi while Minmatar are the best proto logis in my opinion I think Amarr ADV logistics needs to be changed. They sacrifice absolutely nothing at the ADV level in comparison to the other roles. Speed. It's the second slowest suit in the game.
ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist
Amarr Sentinel | Amarr Logi | Losematar Scout
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1107
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Posted - 2013.11.17 03:13:00 -
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Imagine how pissed I was when I got ADV Amarr logi and I just spent my sp on proto assault 2 days ago :(
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
635
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Posted - 2013.11.17 03:20:00 -
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While not the best, I like to run this setup on my alt
Amarr ADV Logistics
ADV semi-auto Scrambler Rifle ADV Scrambler pistol
Highs - Enhanced Shield Extenders Lows - Complex Armour reps
no grenade, nanohive, scanner both std level.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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ThePlayerkyle13
D3LTA ACADEMY
16
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:08:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:While not the best, I like to run this setup on my alt
Amarr ADV Logistics
ADV semi-auto Scrambler Rifle ADV Scrambler pistol
Highs - Enhanced Shield Extenders Lows - Complex Armour reps
no grenade, nanohive, scanner both std level.
Since my dropsuit, SCR & SCP are lvl 5 max i could choose to use Adv variants but i think the proto gives more range to weapons than other variants. as for the High & Low Mods i got a Damage Mods for Light Weapons & Sidearm. For High Mods i use 4 Enhanced Armor Repaires, but since theirs a penitaly for using same mod i think i'm going to add 2 Armor Plates... |
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1078
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:11:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Atiim wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Amarr logi is the best advanced logi while Minmatar are the best proto logis in my opinion I think Amarr ADV logistics needs to be changed. They sacrifice absolutely nothing at the ADV level in comparison to the other roles. Speed. It's the second slowest suit in the game. I was referring to the ADV tier. Not the dropsuit class in general.
That answer is not valid. The Minmatar sacrifice way to much HP for a slight increase of speed.
The Amarr Logistics at the ADV tier is exactly like the Minmatar at ADV but with a sidearm slot slapped onto it.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1078
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:14:00 -
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superjoe360x wrote:Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO. Lmao yeah man and min gets no sidearm. When im holding a point with my massdriver and you come after me or get in my face I have a prof sixkin for you to eat bullets. What does a min have. Um nothing. I could destroy your puny Minnie logi anyday anytime and make you eat that statement. Lol yeah okay.
Prof V with my freedom along with my Allotek Flux Nade and 3 complex damage mods would send you and your entire team crying.
And if that doesn't work then I'll just get in my optimal and gun you down with a Duvolle or Allotek Burst before your first two shots even hit me.
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
226
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:26:00 -
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Why is the Amarr logi so amazing at advanced level? Did no one look at a 3-3-3+sidearm layout and think it was OP for advanced? |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
352
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:37:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Why is the Amarr logi so amazing at advanced level? Did no one look at a 3-3-3+sidearm layout and think it was OP for advanced? Especially compared to the 2-2-1+sidearm layout of the Amarr Assault. I know the Assault suit has other things going for it, but the advantages of the logi suit don't seem very role specific to me. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
1509
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:41:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Why is the Amarr logi so amazing at advanced level? Did no one look at a 3-3-3+sidearm layout and think it was OP for advanced? Why are you complaining about the Advanced level suit? The Amarr Logi is far worse in the long run, as previously stated. There is no point in complaining about the Advanced Amarr Logi when the Proto Caldari Logi has 5 High Slots and 4 Low Slots
ö/\ö :D
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
1509
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:45:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:superjoe360x wrote:Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO. Lmao yeah man and min gets no sidearm. When im holding a point with my massdriver and you come after me or get in my face I have a prof sixkin for you to eat bullets. What does a min have. Um nothing. I could destroy your puny Minnie logi anyday anytime and make you eat that statement. You dont need a Sidearm as long as you've got a good primary. I find myself using all 60 bullets just before someone is dead very often. And there have been times when I ran out of ammo in my Primary and had no time to drop a hive.
Also, the sidearm can save your life if you're running a Scrambler Rifle. If you're close to overheating, switch to your sidearm and kill.
ö/\ö :D
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Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
227
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Posted - 2013.11.17 16:26:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Why is the Amarr logi so amazing at advanced level? Did no one look at a 3-3-3+sidearm layout and think it was OP for advanced? Why are you complaining about the Advanced level suit? The Amarr Logi is far worse in the long run, as previously stated. There is no point in complaining about the Advanced Amarr Logi when the Proto Caldari Logi has 5 High Slots and 4 Low Slots I wouldn't say far worse, the sidearm is worth at least one slot, and arguably two given the calogi proto struggles to fill all its slots - it has 40 less CPU than the Amarr. The Amarr logi is more or less balanced at proto but out of whack at advanced, IMO. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
230
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Posted - 2013.11.18 10:29:00 -
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I have a noobish question and this seems as good a place as any to ask it. If I have say Gallente logistics level 5, then get Amarr level 3, do I get 5 armour repair when I'm using the Amarr suit or 3 armour repair?
The regen bonus is described as a 'logistics' bonus rather than as a racial specific bonus, but the Dust fitting tool suggests that you need the racial specific skill even to get the generic logistics bonus. It's not something I'm actually thinking of doing, but just wondered how it works. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
545
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Posted - 2013.11.18 10:43:00 -
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Gal logi is the best suit. callogis nerf made a CPU mod almost mandatory, so its really only 5highs 3 lows 3 equipment slots. Amarr assaults the best assault suit, using at least a k17d hive, at least 2 complex dmg mods, with as much armor as possible, and prof5 on the imperial ScR. The amarr assault gets almost as much PG & CPU as a logi so its great. The minmatar logi is arguably the best PC suit because of the speed & hacking abilities it can do, while running a shotty in cities. |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
752
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Posted - 2013.11.18 11:10:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Shhh don't tell the callogis us amarr logis are better amarr logi is supposed to be more attack based than cal logi's they can bloody well get over it |
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superjoe360x
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
133
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Posted - 2013.11.18 11:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:superjoe360x wrote:Atiim wrote:Minmatar logistics are the best.
They have the same hybrid tank slot layout of the Amarr Logistics, but with an additional equipment slot
Amarr Logistics sacrifices way too much speed for the extra HP it gets IMO. Lmao yeah man and min gets no sidearm. When im holding a point with my massdriver and you come after me or get in my face I have a prof sixkin for you to eat bullets. What does a min have. Um nothing. I could destroy your puny Minnie logi anyday anytime and make you eat that statement. Lol yeah okay. Prof V with my freedom along with my Allotek Flux Nade and 3 complex damage mods would send you and your entire team crying. And if that doesn't work then I'll just get in my optimal and gun you down with a Duvolle or Allotek Burst before your first two shots even hit me.
You can use two light weapons. Um no. Your just as lost as you are in your dropsuit decision bro. Apparently you have never met my freedom with my sixkin. What happens when someone comes after you. You have to run or kill yourself. I can pull out my sidearm and kill whoever it may be. See you don't have a sidearm therefore you don't know the value of it. What chat can I find you in so I can sync against your squad and show you true power. Loser |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
221
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Posted - 2013.11.18 11:34:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Gallente logis at proto level is the best suit in the game right now Actually yea nevermind gallente logi is the best proto logi with minmatar behind them. its because they can stack armor plates and damage mods on their suit, there is no need for a armor repairer when they can carry nano hives that heal them
Hmm still a fully plated Gal Logi gets beaten by a std heavy in terms of total eHP plus the Heavy can fit a sidearm.
Yes the gal logi is good especially when you want to use lots of equipment but I really prefere the Minni Logi by now as the bonus is great and I can easily keep up with my Assault brothers to give them the love they need |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
1539
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Posted - 2013.11.18 11:38:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:I have a noobish question and this seems as good a place as any to ask it. If I have say Gallente logistics level 5, then get Amarr level 3, do I get 5 armour repair when I'm using the Amarr suit or 3 armour repair?
The regen bonus is described as a 'logistics' bonus rather than as a racial specific bonus, but the Dust fitting tool suggests that you need the racial specific skill even to get the generic logistics bonus. It's not something I'm actually thinking of doing, but just wondered how it works. No, you would have to skill Amarr Logi all the way up to get the overall Logi bonus.
ö/\ö :D
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
1539
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Posted - 2013.11.18 11:39:00 -
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superjoe360x wrote:You can use two light weapons. Um no. Your just as lost as you are in your dropsuit decision bro. Apparently you have never met my freedom with my sixkin. What happens when someone comes after you. You have to run or kill yourself. I can pull out my sidearm and kill whoever it may be. See you don't have a sidearm therefore you don't know the value of it. What chat can I find you in so I can sync against your squad and show you true power. Loser This guy
ö/\ö :D
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1017
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Posted - 2013.11.18 11:47:00 -
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The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1293
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Posted - 2013.11.18 11:56:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate.
dude try this fit and tell me its not good at assaulting
Logistics Ako 1 imperial scrambler rifle , 1 scrambler pistol (your choice) 1 locust grenade
low slots- 1 complex armour plate , 2 complex armour repair and 1 enhanced shield regulator
high slots - 2 enhances shield extenders and 1 enhanced shield enegiser
equipment all std - 1 dropuplink, 1 nano hive , and 1 flux active scanner , the hp regen on this fit is amazing and it will serve you well when assaulting any position as long as you know when to take cover , in this fit I can go as little as 100 armour and regen to full hp within 12 seconds it really is good for hit run hide assault tactics .
Its gone from suck .....to blow
level 1 forum warrior
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
754
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Posted - 2013.11.18 12:01:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate. dude try this fit and tell me its not good at assaulting Logistics Ako 1 imperial scrambler rifle , 1 scrambler pistol (your choice) 1 locust grenade low slots- 1 complex armour plate , 2 complex armour repair and 1 enhanced shield regulator high slots - 2 enhances shield extenders and 1 enhanced shield enegiser equipment all std - 1 dropuplink, 1 nano hive , and 1 flux active scanner , the hp regen on this fit is amazing and it will serve you well when assaulting any position as long as you know when to take cover , in this fit I can go as little as 100 armour and regen to full hp within 12 seconds it really is good for hit run hide assault tactics . i actually have a video where i exhibit a similar fit slight differences higher armor regen less shield tank higher dmg output
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I like my dual tank and quick regen on both shields and armour it . the shields act as a great buffer for my armour reps. I love engaging folks at range with that fit as when they get me low and try to close the distance im at full hp by the time they get to me
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I cant wait till the meta changes again, it does show that CCP is doing something right. We couldn't have this much debate if they weren't so close to each other. These new rifles should make things interesting and I bet the forums are going to burn and the tears will flow. All new weapons will have at least one op and one up thread. It is going to be sweet. I think that it may be worse than the Awox flood that we had at release.
Has anyone been awoxed lately? It was so bad that it had to be fixed right away yet I haven't seen or heard anything after that first couple of weeks. I remember those threads, sometimes I close my eyes and just laugh at those threads. It was - without doubt - the worst thing to ever happen to DUST514 and totally broke the game. Big fat tears. Those threads were the best and I may dig one up.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 12:16:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate. dude try this fit and tell me its not good at assaulting Logistics Ako 1 imperial scrambler rifle , 1 scrambler pistol (your choice) 1 locust grenade low slots- 1 complex armour plate , 2 complex armour repair and 1 enhanced shield regulator high slots - 2 enhances shield extenders and 1 enhanced shield enegiser equipment all std - 1 dropuplink, 1 nano hive , and 1 flux active scanner , the hp regen on this fit is amazing and it will serve you well when assaulting any position as long as you know when to take cover , in this fit I can go as little as 100 armour and regen to full hp within 12 seconds it really is good for hit run hide assault tactics .
Looks to me like a shoddy fit, the suit doesnt know what it wants to be, you wanna make it a shield regen fit while also having good repair, while having actually little shield EHP & Armor to repair back up (+-220 ish shield & 367 ish armor), my assault suit has more shields and more armor and can sustain multiple firefights.
Sure they both come back up faster, but during one gunfight, with someone that can aim will blow right trough you, after yer dead, that regen means squat.
Ive tried many fits on my Proto amarr logi, it pales at offensive based gameplay vs my assault suit.
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Rei Shepard wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate. dude try this fit and tell me its not good at assaulting Logistics Ako 1 imperial scrambler rifle , 1 scrambler pistol (your choice) 1 locust grenade low slots- 1 complex armour plate , 2 complex armour repair and 1 enhanced shield regulator high slots - 2 enhances shield extenders and 1 enhanced shield enegiser equipment all std - 1 dropuplink, 1 nano hive , and 1 flux active scanner , the hp regen on this fit is amazing and it will serve you well when assaulting any position as long as you know when to take cover , in this fit I can go as little as 100 armour and regen to full hp within 12 seconds it really is good for hit run hide assault tactics . Looks to me like a shoddy fit, the suit doesnt know what it wants to be, you wanna make it a shield regen fit while also having good repair, while having actually little shield EHP & Armor to repair back up (+-220 ish shield & 367 ish armor), my assault suit has more shields and more armor and can sustain multiple firefights. Sure they both come back up faster, but during one gunfight, with someone that can aim will blow right trough you, after yer dead, that regen means squat. Ive tried many fits on my Proto amarr logi, it pales at offensive based gameplay vs my assault suit.
yes it suffers to immediate alph damage in a strait up fire fight, but im not often found engaging the enemy from the front, if they get the drop on me yea sure im done but that's what the scanners for, if I go down that's what the uplinks are for, as I said I like this fit because of the fast regen and iv been running it for a while and found it quite profitable if you know when to engage and when to run. yes your assault suit has more shields and armour its a bloody assault suit my assault AKO can stand well in a direct fire fight but my Logistics Ako isn't a front line suit , I use it like a guerrilla warfare suit i.e. hit run hide and allways attack from the flank.
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Rei Shepard
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Posted - 2013.11.18 12:31:00 -
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Quote:yes it suffers to immediate alph damage in a strait up fire fight, but im not often found engaging the enemy from the front, if they get the drop on me yea sure im done but that's what the scanners for, if I go down that's what the uplinks are for, as I said I like this fit because of the fast regen and iv been running it for a while and found it quite profitable if you know when to engage and when to run. yes your assault suit has more shields and armour its a bloody assault suit my assault AKO can stand well in a direct fire fight but my Logistics Ako isn't a front line suit , I use it like a guerrilla warfare suit i.e. hit run hide and allways attack from the flank.
Hit & Run doesnt inspire me to see it as a God Suit.
though it is a really good suit, it got way to much speed penalty/slots, opposed to the gallente version or the caldari for a sidearm.
you should try out, no repper, basic plates mixed with ferro playes, a K17 repper hive, 2 complex shields, 1 complex dmg mod, just use its natural 5 h/s reps, the advanced scanner and guns fit what you like.
Much more hit & run, if you can run, then repair when you are hiding.
Or on a chockepoint drop 2x repper hives on the floor and hold it with 45 reps a second, if you can fit alloteks, or wyrkomi, youd have 80 or 140 reps a second.
Aint nothing passing you there.
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pegasis prime
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Posted - 2013.11.18 12:48:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Quote:yes it suffers to immediate alph damage in a strait up fire fight, but im not often found engaging the enemy from the front, if they get the drop on me yea sure im done but that's what the scanners for, if I go down that's what the uplinks are for, as I said I like this fit because of the fast regen and iv been running it for a while and found it quite profitable if you know when to engage and when to run. yes your assault suit has more shields and armour its a bloody assault suit my assault AKO can stand well in a direct fire fight but my Logistics Ako isn't a front line suit , I use it like a guerrilla warfare suit i.e. hit run hide and allways attack from the flank. Hit & Run doesnt inspire me to see it as a God Suit. though it is a really good suit, it got way to much speed penalty/slots, opposed to the gallente version or the caldari for a sidearm. you should try out, no repper, basic plates mixed with ferro playes, a K17 repper hive, 2 complex shields, 1 complex dmg mod, just use its natural 5 h/s reps, the advanced scanner and guns fit what you like. Much more hit & run, if you can run, then repair when you are hiding. Or on a chockepoint drop 2x repper hives on the floor and hold it with 45 reps a second, if you can fit alloteks, or wyrkomi, youd have 80 or 140 reps a second. Aint nothing passing you there.
ill give it a whack and see, I do favour guerrilla warfare styles of play that's why I like quick regen my assault suits of cource are used as front lile suits.
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Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate. true the amar assault trumps the logi for assault purposes thats why i say the logi qq holds no water |
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:25:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate. dude try this fit and tell me its not good at assaulting Logistics Ako 1 imperial scrambler rifle , 1 scrambler pistol (your choice) 1 locust grenade low slots- 1 complex armour plate , 2 complex armour repair and 1 enhanced shield regulator high slots - 2 enhances shield extenders and 1 enhanced shield enegiser equipment all std - 1 dropuplink, 1 nano hive , and 1 flux active scanner , the hp regen on this fit is amazing and it will serve you well when assaulting any position as long as you know when to take cover , in this fit I can go as little as 100 armour and regen to full hp within 12 seconds it really is good for hit run hide assault tactics . Looks to me like a shoddy fit, the suit doesnt know what it wants to be, you wanna make it a shield regen fit while also having good repair, while having actually little shield EHP & Armor to repair back up (+-220 ish shield & 367 ish armor), my assault suit has more shields and more armor and can sustain multiple firefights. Sure they both come back up faster, but during one gunfight, with someone that can aim will blow right trough you, after yer dead, that regen means squat. Ive tried many fits on my Proto amarr logi, it pales at offensive based gameplay vs my assault suit. +1 because I agree with your assessment of this fit (somehow manages to have neither tank nor damage mods .) But I thought you told me in a different thread that you thought the logi was a better assault suit than the assault? |
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:23:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate. dude try this fit and tell me its not good at assaulting Logistics Ako 1 imperial scrambler rifle , 1 scrambler pistol (your choice) 1 locust grenade low slots- 1 complex armour plate , 2 complex armour repair and 1 enhanced shield regulator high slots - 2 enhances shield extenders and 1 enhanced shield enegiser equipment all std - 1 dropuplink, 1 nano hive , and 1 flux active scanner , the hp regen on this fit is amazing and it will serve you well when assaulting any position as long as you know when to take cover , in this fit I can go as little as 100 armour and regen to full hp within 12 seconds it really is good for hit run hide assault tactics . Looks to me like a shoddy fit, the suit doesnt know what it wants to be, you wanna make it a shield regen fit while also having good repair, while having actually little shield EHP & Armor to repair back up (+-220 ish shield & 367 ish armor), my assault suit has more shields and more armor and can sustain multiple firefights. Sure they both come back up faster, but during one gunfight, with someone that can aim will blow right trough you, after yer dead, that regen means squat. Ive tried many fits on my Proto amarr logi, it pales at offensive based gameplay vs my assault suit. I agree with your assessment of this fit - somehow manages to have neither serious tank nor damage mods .
I have 4 prof light weapons and 2 prof sidearms. I will give you and idea of how I fit my suits. This is proto fit with Massdriver
2 Complex damage mods 1 Complex Shield Ext 3 basic armor plates 1 enhanced armor plate Freedom Massdriver Six kin Smg Allotek Hive R9 uplinks Stable Scanner Core Nades
I have many more weapons and many more setups including a laser which having a sidearm is crucial with that thing. The suit is good for point control and defensive positions. Such as from the rail in the cargo hub looking into the objective in DOM. I am self sufficient. I can scan and I have a sidearm just in case they come to get me.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:26:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate. dude try this fit and tell me its not good at assaulting Logistics Ako 1 imperial scrambler rifle , 1 scrambler pistol (your choice) 1 locust grenade low slots- 1 complex armour plate , 2 complex armour repair and 1 enhanced shield regulator high slots - 2 enhances shield extenders and 1 enhanced shield enegiser equipment all std - 1 dropuplink, 1 nano hive , and 1 flux active scanner , the hp regen on this fit is amazing and it will serve you well when assaulting any position as long as you know when to take cover , in this fit I can go as little as 100 armour and regen to full hp within 12 seconds it really is good for hit run hide assault tactics . Looks to me like a shoddy fit, the suit doesnt know what it wants to be, you wanna make it a shield regen fit while also having good repair, while having actually little shield EHP & Armor to repair back up (+-220 ish shield & 367 ish armor), my assault suit has more shields and more armor and can sustain multiple firefights. Sure they both come back up faster, but during one gunfight, with someone that can aim will blow right trough you, after yer dead, that regen means squat. Ive tried many fits on my Proto amarr logi, it pales at offensive based gameplay vs my assault suit. I agree with your assessment of this fit - somehow manages to have neither serious tank nor damage mods .
my suit knows exactly what its purpose is I don't use damage mods because well I don't need them with my imperial with prof 4, honestly try the fit then tell me its pants I go 13+ kills and over 2000wp 80% of the time I run this fit , its all in the pay style
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:57:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate. dude try this fit and tell me its not good at assaulting Logistics Ako 1 imperial scrambler rifle , 1 scrambler pistol (your choice) 1 locust grenade low slots- 1 complex armour plate , 2 complex armour repair and 1 enhanced shield regulator high slots - 2 enhances shield extenders and 1 enhanced shield enegiser equipment all std - 1 dropuplink, 1 nano hive , and 1 flux active scanner , the hp regen on this fit is amazing and it will serve you well when assaulting any position as long as you know when to take cover , in this fit I can go as little as 100 armour and regen to full hp within 12 seconds it really is good for hit run hide assault tactics . Looks to me like a shoddy fit, the suit doesnt know what it wants to be, you wanna make it a shield regen fit while also having good repair, while having actually little shield EHP & Armor to repair back up (+-220 ish shield & 367 ish armor), my assault suit has more shields and more armor and can sustain multiple firefights. Sure they both come back up faster, but during one gunfight, with someone that can aim will blow right trough you, after yer dead, that regen means squat. Ive tried many fits on my Proto amarr logi, it pales at offensive based gameplay vs my assault suit. I agree with your assessment of this fit - somehow manages to have neither serious tank nor damage mods . my suit knows exactly what its purpose is I don't use damage mods because well I don't need them with my imperial with prof 4, honestly try the fit then tell me its pants I go 13+ kills and over 2000wp 80% of the time I run this fit , its all in the play style hit run hide and regen, as I said I can have full hp within 12 seconds even if im stripped to bellow 100 armour. If you're a decent player those scores don't tell me much about the fit. But if it works for you that's fine, just saying I'd prefer a bit more firepower and defences, even if it does mean sitting on a rep hive for 30 seconds after the meatier engagements. |
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Gallente logis at proto level is the best suit in the game right now
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Rei Shepard
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:15:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:The Logistic suits, especially the Amarr one have too slow strafing speeds to be competetive with proper fitted assault suits.
Especially if you pile on plate after plate. dude try this fit and tell me its not good at assaulting Logistics Ako 1 imperial scrambler rifle , 1 scrambler pistol (your choice) 1 locust grenade low slots- 1 complex armour plate , 2 complex armour repair and 1 enhanced shield regulator high slots - 2 enhances shield extenders and 1 enhanced shield enegiser equipment all std - 1 dropuplink, 1 nano hive , and 1 flux active scanner , the hp regen on this fit is amazing and it will serve you well when assaulting any position as long as you know when to take cover , in this fit I can go as little as 100 armour and regen to full hp within 12 seconds it really is good for hit run hide assault tactics . Looks to me like a shoddy fit, the suit doesnt know what it wants to be, you wanna make it a shield regen fit while also having good repair, while having actually little shield EHP & Armor to repair back up (+-220 ish shield & 367 ish armor), my assault suit has more shields and more armor and can sustain multiple firefights. Sure they both come back up faster, but during one gunfight, with someone that can aim will blow right trough you, after yer dead, that regen means squat. Ive tried many fits on my Proto amarr logi, it pales at offensive based gameplay vs my assault suit. I agree with your assessment of this fit - somehow manages to have neither serious tank nor damage mods . my suit knows exactly what its purpose is I don't use damage mods because well I don't need them with my imperial with prof 4, honestly try the fit then tell me its pants I go 13+ kills and over 2000wp 80% of the time I run this fit , its all in the play style hit run hide and regen, as I said I can have full hp within 12 seconds even if im stripped to bellow 100 armour.
Not really a great arguement opener when you are talking to someone that does 30+ kills on average each game.
with the logi suit i go much less 30+ then i do with the assault and thats with more EHP then you can shake a stick at.
Ive tried pretty much every combo i can think of, including yours, but i did that on a shield suit, Shield tanking an amarr suit is not the way to go, the assault with its lenient slot layout can get away with going both ways, but the logi does not have enough buffer to make it worth your while.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:56:00 -
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The Amarr Combat ministry would like to remind all immortals that killing the enemy is the best way to preserve the health and well being of your friendlies.
Except in the case of the Matari, if you see a team mate running in Scumatar Gear, let them sustain under fire, once they succumb to their injuries then open fire on the enemy combatant. Do not ever save a slave.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 18:05:00 -
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The Amarr don't really have a logistics suit. They just have two assaults, one that's good with lasers and one that can carry equipment.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Kira Lannister
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Posted - 2013.11.18 18:07:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:The Amarr don't really have a logistics suit. They just have two assaults, one that's good with lasers and one that can carry equipment.
You are enlightened slave.
Your Masters have done you well.
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