DUST Search - Why I Hate HAVs And It's Pilots

Atiim wrote:

Why do I hate HAVs?

I hate HAVs because whenever I rep them with my Limbus, I get no reward whatsoever. No Triage Points, not even Guardian points

I use my Limbus to save someone 400k-2m ISK, and I get 0 WP for it. None at all.

Logistics get huge amounts of WP for repairing heavies, so why can't we do the same to their Attack Vehicle variants.

I propose that we get around 50-90 points for every 150HP repaired. And to prevent stat padders from grabbing a Soma and crashing into everything for free WP, I would put a cap on the amount of WP you can get.

For example, you stop receiving WP when you heal x% of an HAV's health.

And why do I hate pilots you ask?

They kill me that's why. Even when I'm on their team.

I run over the people carrying Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers (And that one odd guy running around with a PLC), and guess what they award me with? Death that's what.

You try to turn the corner and BAM! Before you can even react you've been reduced to a smoldering pile of ash because a tanker thought they should go and play a nice game of leap frog with your 2-350k Limbus.

And you don't earn that much WP, so good luck earning that back in one match.

On another note, why give us 90 Triage WP for repairing dropsuits but 0 WP for repairing vehicles?

Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1045	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:47:00 - [1] - Quote Why do I hate HAVs? I hate HAVs because whenever I rep them with my Limbus, I get no reward whatsoever. No Triage Points, not even Guardian points I use my Limbus to save someone 400k-2m ISK, and I get 0 WP for it. None at all. Logistics get huge amounts of WP for repairing heavies, so why can't we do the same to their Attack Vehicle variants. I propose that we get around 50-90 points for every 150HP repaired. And to prevent stat padders from grabbing a Soma and crashing into everything for free WP, I would put a cap on the amount of WP you can get. For example, you stop receiving WP when you heal x% of an HAV's health. And why do I hate pilots you ask? They kill me that's why. Even when I'm on their team. I run over the people carrying Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers (And that one odd guy running around with a PLC), and guess what they award me with? Death that's what. You try to turn the corner and BAM! Before you can even react you've been reduced to a smoldering pile of ash because a tanker thought they should go and play a nice game of leap frog with your 2-350k Limbus. And you don't earn that much WP, so good luck earning that back in one match. On another note, why give us 90 Triage WP for repairing dropsuits but 0 WP for repairing vehicles? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Gorra Snell The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 226	Posted - 2013.11.16 22:55:00 - [2] - Quote I wondered about this when I started late in beta, and the answer I found on the forums is that they removed vehicle repping WP to solve WP farming exploits where you'd damage your own vehicle and rep it. Some solution
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 0	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:01:00 - [3] - Quote Better to get 'gaurdian' WP, so you are keeping the tank alive while its fighting rather than repping them. They are removing LLAVs so its a moot point.
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2088	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:12:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim, please avoid this stereotype and take player by player... You will never see me bumping into friendly LAV's with my Gunny. It's quite the opposite, I tend to stop to let infantry and LAV's pass, unless I'm in danger... in that case I will run straight away and I'm confident that, if you're a good LAV driver, you are aware of the enemy AV and you realize that I'm going in the opposite direction... ... As for LLAV WP, that's a shame. However, you will need a shield transporter to help me... don't worry, I will spec out of shield tanks once I get my SP back. Caldari tanks are so broken that's not even funny. Maddies are just another planet. When I first tried a well-fitted Maddy I couldn't believe that they are so different. I guess that 1.7 is going to change something and make Gunnlogi's the best anti-tank and the Maddy the best active support tank, which already is. -1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m -Goodbye my love, Tac AR "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Llast 326 An Arkhos 478	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:46:00 - [5] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Atiim, please avoid this stereotype and take player by player... You will never see me bumping into friendly LAV's with my Gunny. It's quite the opposite, I tend to stop to let infantry and LAV's pass, unless I'm in danger... in that case I will run straight away and I'm confident that, if you're a good LAV driver, you are aware of the enemy AV and you realize that I'm going in the opposite direction... ... As for LLAV WP, that's a shame. However, you will need a shield transporter to help me... don't worry, I will spec out of shield tanks once I get my SP back. Caldari tanks are so broken that's not even funny. Maddies are just another planet. When I first tried a well-fitted Maddy I couldn't believe that they are so different. I guess that 1.7 is going to change something and make Gunnlogi's the best anti-tank and the Maddy the best active support tank, which already is. If i see you on my team, rest assured I will hunt AV relentlessly for you. Just don't run over the little scout darting between cover. I am apparently not the only fool
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals EoN. 204	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:58:00 - [6] - Quote Destroying an LAV with a tank did you charge it head on, this pesky LAV kept ramming so I pushed it into a wall that didn't work so I drove over it my tank was completely over the LAV and it took no damage, yet the friendly LAV was actually doing some miniscule damage to my HAV it's your fault you blew up not the tanks. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2090	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:58:00 - [7] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: If i see you on my team, rest assured I will hunt AV relentlessly for you. Just don't run over the little scout darting between cover. I'll be paying attention ;) Anyway, I rarely drive tanks, by now. There is a good chance you will see me playing as infantry. If you're a scout, feel free to use my position to flank our enemies. I'm a medium-long range skirmisher, so whenever you see me holding a position, that's probably a safe zone, since I need to keep some distance from the chokepoints to accomplish my role. Let me distract the enemies and go finish them off with your shotgun or whatever gun you use. I'll be watching and enjoying the view. -1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m -Goodbye my love, Tac AR "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Llast 326 An Arkhos 478	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:07:00 - [8] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Llast 326 wrote: If i see you on my team, rest assured I will hunt AV relentlessly for you. Just don't run over the little scout darting between cover. I'll be paying attention ;) Anyway, I rarely drive tanks, by now. There is a good chance you will see me playing as infantry. If you're a scout, feel free to use my position to flank our enemies. I'm a medium-long range skirmisher, so whenever you see me holding a position, that's probably a safe zone, since I need to keep some distance from the chokepoints to accomplish my role. Let me distract the enemies and go finish them off with your shotgun or whatever gun you use. I'll be watching and enjoying the view. Sounds like a plan. Shotguns are far to messy for me, I prefer the delicate touch of Nova Knives, and precision of Pistols, and you'll probably see some rag dolls flying around I am apparently not the only fool
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1059	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:28:00 - [9] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Atiim, please avoid this stereotype and take player by player... You will never see me bumping into friendly LAV's with my Gunny. It's quite the opposite, I tend to stop to let infantry and LAV's pass, unless I'm in danger... in that case I will run straight away and I'm confident that, if you're a good LAV driver, you are aware of the enemy AV and you realize that I'm going in the opposite direction... ... As for LLAV WP, that's a shame. However, you will need a shield transporter to help me... don't worry, I will spec out of shield tanks once I get my SP back. Caldari tanks are so broken that's not even funny. Maddies are just another planet. When I first tried a well-fitted Maddy I couldn't believe that they are so different. I guess that 1.7 is going to change something and make Gunnlogi's the best anti-tank and the Maddy the best active support tank, which already is. Well, It would be hard to go player by player, as (and I'm not joking) 99% of my Limbi that has been destroyed was because of friendly HAVs playing chicken or Leapfrog. Yeah you would think they would drive in the opposite direction of AV right? Most of these people drive straight towards them. Some of them even turn around, and then drive backwards straight into you. It's ridiculous. It's like giving 10 year olds the keys to a Ferrari and telling them that they can drive however they want. Also, with the new vehicle changes both Gunnlogies and Madrugars will use the same skill, so there is no reason to spec out of vehicles just for that. And my Limbus has both Shield Transporters and Remote Armor Repairers. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1059	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:32:00 - [10] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Destroying an LAV with a tank did you charge it head on, this pesky LAV kept ramming so I pushed it into a wall that didn't work so I drove over it my tank was completely over the LAV and it took no damage, yet the friendly LAV was actually doing some miniscule damage to my HAV it's your fault you blew up not the tanks. Ok I'll tell you what. I will call out both my Madrugar and my strongest Limbus for you. Then I will turn around so you have some leeway to move about. Then start randomly driving backwards for no reason until your a smoldering pile of ash. It wouldn't be my fault at all would it? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1059	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:34:00 - [11] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Better to get 'gaurdian' WP, so you are keeping the tank alive while its fighting rather than repping them. They are removing LLAVs so its a moot point. I'd say it would be better to get both. Currently we have none. And they said they were only removing them "Temporarily" Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals EoN. 204	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:36:00 - [12] - Quote You get guardian points for repping a tank when it kills someone just you have to you use a hand held repper which makes 0 sense. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1059	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:39:00 - [13] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: You get guardian points for repping a tank when it kills someone just you have to you use a hand held repper not the proper way with a Limbus which makes 0 sense. That's terrible. Why would I or any other tanker with 3-8k armor want someone who only reps at around 70HP/s? They'd be more of an annoyance if anything. Unless they help gun down the AV Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1103	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:57:00 - [14] - Quote I hate HAV pilots because they can use a keyboard to flee like bitches at the first sign of real danger. Oh did I forget to mention that keyboards allow them to travel far faster than a DS3? Not to mention the fact that as far as I can tell they seem to ignore even semi realistic physics by not losing any speed whatsoever while traveling up what would constitute graded inclines. I really, really hope 1.7 fixes some of the more glaring things like those I've just mentioned. I am not asking for 100% realism, but c'mon, is it really that hard to incorporate torque? Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
SoTarian PoParrazi Shining Flame Amarr Empire 215	Posted - 2013.11.17 01:02:00 - [15] - Quote I find it funny you expect tankers to be nice to you when you're a jerk to them on the forums lol n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 144	Posted - 2013.11.17 02:50:00 - [16] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: If i see you on my team, rest assured I will hunt AV relentlessly for you. Just don't run over the little scout darting between cover. Reminds me of the time I was about to die and a tank comes and kills the guy - I go hop into the tank so I can self repair for a bit. Then a swarm launcher guy pops up, starts hammering the tank! I jump out and hose him, saving the tank! It was a real good team work moment!
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2212	Posted - 2013.11.17 02:59:00 - [17] - Quote You just love causing **** don't ya lol Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1070	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:24:00 - [18] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: I find it funny you expect tankers to be nice to you when you're a jerk to them on the forums lol The thread title was a joke lol I'm just requesting that we get Triage and Guardian points for repping them with a Limbus. Well that, and for them to stop running me over for no good reason Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1240	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:29:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: Why do I hate HAVs? I hate HAVs because whenever I rep them with my Limbus, I get no reward whatsoever. No Triage Points, not even Guardian points I use my Limbus to save someone 400k-2m ISK, and I get 0 WP for it. None at all. Logistics get huge amounts of WP for repairing heavies, so why can't we do the same to their Attack Vehicle variants. I propose that we get around 50-90 points for every 150HP repaired. And to prevent stat padders from grabbing a Soma and crashing into everything for free WP, I would put a cap on the amount of WP you can get. For example, you stop receiving WP when you heal x% of an HAV's health. And why do I hate pilots you ask? They kill me that's why. Even when I'm on their team. I run over the people carrying Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers (And that one odd guy running around with a PLC), and guess what they award me with? Death that's what. You try to turn the corner and BAM! Before you can even react you've been reduced to a smoldering pile of ash because a tanker thought they should go and play a nice game of leap frog with your 2-350k Limbus. And you don't earn that much WP, so good luck earning that back in one match. On another note, why give us 90 Triage WP for repairing dropsuits but 0 WP for repairing vehicles? This is why you're not a tanker. We don't care that we don't get WP for using remote modules. Seems you're also a bad driver that doesn't pay attention to the radar if you're crashing into other vehicles. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1070	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:47:00 - [20] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: This is why you're not a tanker. We don't care that we don't get WP for using remote modules. Seems you're also a bad driver that doesn't pay attention to the radar if you're crashing into other vehicles. Stop beating a dead horse. Everyone here already knows I am a tanker. DEAL WITH IT. And yeah If I stare at the radar all the time instead of paying attention to the road, wouldn't that make me a bad driver by default? Bad LLAV Driver? LOL Lets say in real life, I was to make a stop and turn around. Then I start moving forward a bit. What would you say happens next? I keep going forward? Of course not. I randomly going backward with my Nitrous modules on for no reason whatsoever. I crash into you and total your car. Would the judge say your just a bad driver if you decided to sue me? Or would the judge force me to pay for a replacement? You may not care about getting WP but I guarantee most LLAV pilots do. It makes no sense as to why I get 0-200 WP per match when I'm the one keeping the tank alive. Also, I don't know if I would call you a tanker. I think the term "hypocrite" is an order. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND

CharCharOdell 1550	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:53:00 - [21] - Quote it's not like we WANT to run into you because that's about 2000 dmg we end up taking and could kill us. Most of the time, at least, i assure you it is an accident. As for the WP thing, blame CCP. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1242	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:59:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: This is why you're not a tanker. We don't care that we don't get WP for using remote modules. Seems you're also a bad driver that doesn't pay attention to the radar if you're crashing into other vehicles. Stop beating a dead horse. Everyone here already knows I am a tanker. DEAL WITH IT. And yeah If I stare at the radar all the time instead of paying attention to the road, wouldn't that make me a bad driver by default? Bad LLAV Driver? LOL Lets say in real life, I was to make a stop and turn around. Then I start moving forward a bit. What would you say happens next? I keep going forward? Of course not. I randomly going backward with my Nitrous modules on for no reason whatsoever. I crash into you and total your car. Would the judge say your just a bad driver if you decided to sue me? Or would the judge force me to pay for a replacement? You may not care about getting WP but I guarantee most LLAV pilots do. It makes no sense as to why I get 0-200 WP per match when I'm the one keeping the tank alive. Also, I don't know if I would call you a tanker. I think the term "hypocrite" is an order. How many times do we have to say that simply having only a few million into vehicles doesn't make you a tanker? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
nakaya indigene 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 98	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:01:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: Why do I hate HAVs? I hate HAVs because whenever I rep them with my Limbus, I get no reward whatsoever. No Triage Points, not even Guardian points I use my Limbus to save someone 400k-2m ISK, and I get 0 WP for it. None at all. Logistics get huge amounts of WP for repairing heavies, so why can't we do the same to their Attack Vehicle variants. I propose that we get around 50-90 points for every 150HP repaired. And to prevent stat padders from grabbing a Soma and crashing into everything for free WP, I would put a cap on the amount of WP you can get. For example, you stop receiving WP when you heal x% of an HAV's health. And why do I hate pilots you ask? They kill me that's why. Even when I'm on their team. I run over the people carrying Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers (And that one odd guy running around with a PLC), and guess what they award me with? Death that's what. You try to turn the corner and BAM! Before you can even react you've been reduced to a smoldering pile of ash because a tanker thought they should go and play a nice game of leap frog with your 2-350k Limbus. And you don't earn that much WP, so good luck earning that back in one match. On another note, why give us 90 Triage WP for repairing dropsuits but 0 WP for repairing vehicles? I agree with the first part with the repping.. it gives incentive to use llav (however they are removing them with 1.7) but the second part reminds me of why blue lav drivers are idiots. Tanks are a HUGE target for the rest of the enemy team. our option to stop for every FRAKKING lav (that has no situation awareness) and get bombed by AV. OR keep going. and thats IF the tank can see you . I drive tanks and lavs. I HAVE NEVER RUN INTO A BLUE TANK. you know why? because I know they cant evade, its the LAV drivers job to evade NOT the tank. well because they cant . just get better at driving SCRUB.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1242	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:01:00 - [24] - Quote Also, next thing you infantry are going to complain about is that you should get 5WP for spawning before you get the first message telling you to spawn, then another 5 WP if you jump out of the MCC and successfully use the inertial dampener before hitting the ground, thus not taking any damage. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1070	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:04:00 - [25] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: [quote=Atiim] How many times do we have to say that simply having only a few million into vehicles doesn't make you a tanker? Why must you defile the grave of this horse? Hasn't his corpse taken enough beatings? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1070	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:10:00 - [26] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Also, next thing you infantry are going to complain about is that you should get 5WP for spawning before you get the first message telling you to spawn, then another 5 WP if you jump out of the MCC and successfully use the inertial dampener before hitting the ground, thus not taking any damage. Next thing you know tankers are gonna start saying that AV shouldn't do damage to them and the only way to destroy a tank should be with another tank. Oh wait. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1070	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:17:00 - [27] - Quote nakaya indigene wrote: I agree with the first part with the repping.. it gives incentive to use llav (however they are removing them with 1.7) but the second part reminds me of why blue lav drivers are idiots. Tanks are a HUGE target for the rest of the enemy team. our option to stop for every FRAKKING lav (that has no situation awareness) and get bombed by AV. OR keep going. and thats IF the tank can see you . I drive tanks and lavs. I HAVE NEVER RUN INTO A BLUE TANK. you know why? because I know they cant evade, its the LAV drivers job to evade NOT the tank. well because they cant . just get better at driving SCRUB. Oh noes, he told to GET GOOD D: Whatever shall I do? So basically your saying that if a tank comes to a complete stop and then starts randomly driving backwards it's my fault for getting run over? Even when there was no reason to? If I don't stay near the HAV then I can't rep it, and if I get in front of it... Then I'm just asking to get flattened. Get better at using logic DEBATE SCRUB Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1242	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:21:00 - [28] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: How many times do we have to say that simply having only a few million into vehicles doesn't make you a tanker? Why must you defile the grave of this horse? Hasn't his corpse taken enough beatings? But you keep calling yourself a tanker. You're on a crusade against tanks. The two do not go together. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1242	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:22:00 - [29] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Also, next thing you infantry are going to complain about is that you should get 5WP for spawning before you get the first message telling you to spawn, then another 5 WP if you jump out of the MCC and successfully use the inertial dampener before hitting the ground, thus not taking any damage. Next thing you know tankers are gonna start saying that AV shouldn't do damage to them and the only way to destroy a tank should be with another tank. Oh wait. The best counter =/= the only counter Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 454	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:27:00 - [30] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: You get guardian points for repping a tank when it kills someone just you have to you use a hand held repper not the proper way with a Limbus which makes 0 sense. Really? Wow. I'm totally gonna spend an entire game repping a tank now. Damn Imperials! Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!



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