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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:41:00 -
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I had fun when people didn't die instantly to every hitscan weapon in the game. Now it's just a twitch shooter. ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png)
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:42:00 -
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not caring about KDR makes this game really funny !
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:43:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:not caring about KDR makes this game really funny ! I don't really find instakills to practically everything particularly funny.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:48:00 -
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Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's.
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Farm
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:53:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I had fun when people didn't die instantly to every hitscan weapon in the game. Now it's just a twitch shooter. ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) Now that hit detection is up to par they seriously need to tone back the stupid aim assist.
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Silent Defiance
Lone Hound of Death
16
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:56:00 -
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Getting tired of it as well. Really do not like having to duel with AR's at 100m+ every match, it renders other weapons useless. Gets really boring after a while... |
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:57:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's.
what about when you have multiple ARs and scrams focus firing you?
that's what happens the majority of the time people die by these weapons.
a lot of squads are doing this. a few scrams to take out your shields and a few ARs for your armor.
all focused on you. show me vid of one scram or one AR 1 shotting you or even 2 shotting you in a decent fit with core skills to 5.
it doesn't happen.
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:58:00 -
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Ah, nothing like being a Scout with Kin-cats, running 95m away, ducking, dodging, weaving, blah, blah, blah... but some how a Militia AR can magically track you, and have their sight stick to you, and shoot you dead...
Not to mention the cheap f*cks you are using modded controllers so their Duvolles have zero recoil, so if you pop out, the can shoot you dead in 0.2 seconds, because all there bullets fired like a straight laser in the 0.1 seconds you were an available target.
I'm not stupid... when I see some guy strafing back and forth at 10m/sec but still able to hit EVERY single bullet I know it's either KB&M or modded controller. Even the best AR straffers in the game aren't able to do that. You can certainly tell, because even the shooting sounds different, you can hear the choppy speed on the gun firing. Aim assist is good, but not THAT good. |
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:32:00 -
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Multiple people are fed up with TTK and all we get is the sound of crickets from CCP....
They must be getting plenty of revenue from us or you would think they would start caring. . |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:34:00 -
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Working on it, just bleh, there is a lot of information involving properly toning this to where it needs to be.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:38:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. what about when you have multiple ARs and scrams focus firing you? that's what happens the majority of the time people die by these weapons. a lot of squads are doing this. a few scrams to take out your shields and a few ARs for your armor. all focused on you. show me vid of one scram or one AR 1 shotting you or even 2 shotting you in a decent fit with core skills to 5. it doesn't happen. They don't one or two shot, I'll grant that, and more often than not there are multiple people shooting you. But when you have literally ONE guy with a Duvolle or Carthum taking on 3-4 people and WINNING (I know this because I SCANNED THE AREA) there is something wrong. Not to mention SMG's.
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Knight Soiaire
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:41:00 -
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CCP Dev #1 wrote:Well 'CCP Dev #2', the forums goers are saying that TTK is too low, should we hotfix a damage nerf?
CCP Dev #2 wrote:Meh, maybe later. What else is happening?
CCP Dev #1 wrote:Well, there is this one thread pointing out how the Light Frame radius is 20m, instead of 16m
CCP Dev #2 wrote:HOLY KITTENS! HOTFIX THAT IMMEDIATELY!
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Thanks for the hotfix CCP, Light Frames having 20m scan was so OP!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:01:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:CCP Dev #1 wrote:Well 'CCP Dev #2', the forums goers are saying that TTK is too low, should we hotfix a damage nerf? CCP Dev #2 wrote:Meh, maybe later. What else is happening? CCP Dev #1 wrote:Well, there is this one thread pointing out how the Light Frame radius is 20m, instead of 16m CCP Dev #2 wrote:HOLY KITTENS! HOTFIX THAT IMMEDIATELY! ![Straight](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_straight.png)
I lol'd.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:21:00 -
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Yes the game is not as fun with the new ttk i hope it will be fixed our im going back to bf4.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1544
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:36:00 -
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While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back.
@Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it?
"Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!"
1 Week later.
"People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred."
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Working on it, just bleh, there is a lot of information involving properly toning this to where it needs to be.
Funny thing is, I don't remember anyone complaining about how TTK was to slow in this. We want hit detection solved, not aim assist, and the game landing bullets for us making players better than they actually are. |
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:48:00 -
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8213 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Working on it, just bleh, there is a lot of information involving properly toning this to where it needs to be. Funny thing is, I don't remember anyone complaining about how TTK was to slow in this. We want hit detection solved, not aim assist, and the game landing bullets for us making players better than they actually are. Oh god, a game about shooting people with people getting shot.
Nerf it.
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Knight Soiaire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:51:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back.
@Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it?
"Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!"
1 Week later.
"People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred."
A 10% Damage nerf making it take forever to kill a Scout?
How often do you play?
It doesn't even take half a second to kill a Scout, and a 10% nerf wont change that at all.
Thanks for the hotfix CCP, Light Frames having 20m scan was so OP!
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Minako Nakajima
Vortex State Empire Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:51:00 -
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armor or shield hp below 150 is like wet tissue paper...
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Kira Takizawa
Ethereal Eden
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:51:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. what about when you have multiple ARs and scrams focus firing you? that's what happens the majority of the time people die by these weapons. a lot of squads are doing this. a few scrams to take out your shields and a few ARs for your armor. all focused on you. show me vid of one scram or one AR 1 shotting you or even 2 shotting you in a decent fit with core skills to 5. it doesn't happen. Or just one proto version of AR and scrams |
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:53:00 -
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Things just need to be rebalanced. It is not hard to move far enough to break the Aim Assist lock. The problem is that you die before you have a chance to move. |
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:53:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. Shotguns and explosives I agree with, but with how trivial it is to snipe in this game, snipers don't deserve a high DPS. If they had ballistics and no redline, I would probably change my mind. I have never played a game before where sniping is so easy, sniping in COD is harder than it is in this game.
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Burner of faces.
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Knight Soiaire
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:55:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. Shotguns and explosives I agree with, but with how trivial it is to snipe in this game, snipers don't deserve a high DPS. If they had ballistics and no redline, I would probably change my mind. I have never played a game before where sniping is so easy, sniping in COD is harder than it is in this game.
Sniping is much harder in this game, against a Proto suit, unless its poorly fit, you have to get at least two conesecutive heashots (Add 3-4 for a Heavy) with even an Ishukone, to take them down.
Sniping is much harder in this game, just in Skirm and Dom, its safer because of the redline, Snipers need an increased headshot modifier.
Thanks for the hotfix CCP, Light Frames having 20m scan was so OP!
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:04:00 -
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8213 wrote:Ah, nothing like being a Scout with Kin-cats, running 95m away, ducking, dodging, weaving, blah, blah, blah... but some how a Militia AR can magically track you, and have their sight stick to you, and shoot you dead...
Not to mention the cheap f*cks you are using modded controllers so their Duvolles have zero recoil, so if you pop out, the can shoot you dead in 0.2 seconds, because all there bullets fired like a straight laser in the 0.1 seconds you were an available target.
I'm not stupid... when I see some guy strafing back and forth at 10m/sec but still able to hit EVERY single bullet I know it's either KB&M or modded controller. Even the best AR straffers in the game aren't able to do that. You can certainly tell, because even the shooting sounds different, you can hear the choppy speed on the gun firing. Aim assist is good, but not THAT good. The ign'nce of this post...
AR's have 0 recoil until ~20 shots have been fired. Most people just stop firing for half a second after 15 or so shots to keep their shots recoilless.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:09:00 -
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I have started tanking with a Soma since the TTK went up for infantry.
Then I met swarms..
LOOOOOOL!
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:11:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Sniping is much harder in this game, against a Proto suit, unless its poorly fit, you have to get at least two conesecutive heashots (Add 3-4 for a Heavy) with even an Ishukone, to take them down.
Sniping is much harder in this game, just in Skirm and Dom, its safer because of the redline, Snipers need an increased headshot modifier. Get a mouse and you'll be able to line up headshots easily.
Also sniping in this game is very easy; which is puzzling as to why so many snipers in this game suck.
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Haerr
Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:14:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:CCP Dev #1 wrote:Well 'CCP Dev #2', the forums goers are saying that TTK is too low, should we hotfix a damage nerf? CCP Dev #2 wrote:Meh, maybe later. What else is happening? CCP Dev #1 wrote:Well, there is this one thread pointing out how the Light Frame radius is 20m, instead of 16m CCP Dev #2 wrote:HOLY KITTENS! HOTFIX THAT IMMEDIATELY! ![Straight](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_straight.png)
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Bitter, butthurt and trying to HTFU.
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1546
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:22:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back.
@Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it?
"Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!"
1 Week later.
"People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred." A 10% Damage nerf making it take forever to kill a Scout? How often do you play? It doesn't even take half a second to kill a Scout, and a 10% nerf wont change that at all. Considering they way you guys overreacted about the TTK, you would freak out about it like that.
Also, 10+10=20.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:23:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back.
@Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it?
"Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!"
1 Week later.
"People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred." A 10% Damage nerf making it take forever to kill a Scout? How often do you play? It doesn't even take half a second to kill a Scout, and a 10% nerf wont change that at all. Considering they way you guys overreacted about the TTK, you would freak out about it like that. Also, 10+10=20.
A 20% nerf won't change how long it takes to kill a scout because they die practically instantly.
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D3LTA ACADEMY
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:35:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I had fun when people didn't die instantly to every hitscan weapon in the game. Now it's just a twitch shooter. ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) Now that hit detection is up to par they seriously need to tone back the stupid aim assist.
Aim assist doesn't work for me, i cant tell difference if its on or off... |
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