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Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5084	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:41:00 - [1] - Quote I had fun when people didn't die instantly to every hitscan weapon in the game. Now it's just a twitch shooter. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 445	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:42:00 - [2] - Quote not caring about KDR makes this game really funny ! A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós ! Hey CCP, give me PvE!
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5084	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:43:00 - [3] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: not caring about KDR makes this game really funny ! I don't really find instakills to practically everything particularly funny. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 97	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:48:00 - [4] - Quote Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. I am the Horseless Headsman. Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
Funkmaster Whale Whale Farm 1130	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:53:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I had fun when people didn't die instantly to every hitscan weapon in the game. Now it's just a twitch shooter. Now that hit detection is up to par they seriously need to tone back the stupid aim assist. Let me play you the song of my people!
Silent Defiance Lone Hound of Death 16	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:56:00 - [6] - Quote Getting tired of it as well. Really do not like having to duel with AR's at 100m+ every match, it renders other weapons useless. Gets really boring after a while...
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1203	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:57:00 - [7] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. what about when you have multiple ARs and scrams focus firing you? that's what happens the majority of the time people die by these weapons. a lot of squads are doing this. a few scrams to take out your shields and a few ARs for your armor. all focused on you. show me vid of one scram or one AR 1 shotting you or even 2 shotting you in a decent fit with core skills to 5. it doesn't happen. insert witty or profound statement here _______.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 712	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:58:00 - [8] - Quote Ah, nothing like being a Scout with Kin-cats, running 95m away, ducking, dodging, weaving, blah, blah, blah... but some how a Militia AR can magically track you, and have their sight stick to you, and shoot you dead... Not to mention the cheap f*cks you are using modded controllers so their Duvolles have zero recoil, so if you pop out, the can shoot you dead in 0.2 seconds, because all there bullets fired like a straight laser in the 0.1 seconds you were an available target. I'm not stupid... when I see some guy strafing back and forth at 10m/sec but still able to hit EVERY single bullet I know it's either KB&M or modded controller. Even the best AR straffers in the game aren't able to do that. You can certainly tell, because even the shooting sounds different, you can hear the choppy speed on the gun firing. Aim assist is good, but not THAT good.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 654	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:32:00 - [9] - Quote Multiple people are fed up with TTK and all we get is the sound of crickets from CCP.... They must be getting plenty of revenue from us or you would think they would start caring. .
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10314	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:34:00 - [10] - Quote Working on it, just bleh, there is a lot of information involving properly toning this to where it needs to be. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked

Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 99	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:38:00 - [11] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. what about when you have multiple ARs and scrams focus firing you? that's what happens the majority of the time people die by these weapons. a lot of squads are doing this. a few scrams to take out your shields and a few ARs for your armor. all focused on you. show me vid of one scram or one AR 1 shotting you or even 2 shotting you in a decent fit with core skills to 5. it doesn't happen. They don't one or two shot, I'll grant that, and more often than not there are multiple people shooting you. But when you have literally ONE guy with a Duvolle or Carthum taking on 3-4 people and WINNING (I know this because I SCANNED THE AREA) there is something wrong. Not to mention SMG's. I am the Horseless Headsman. Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3313	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:41:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Dev #1 wrote: Well 'CCP Dev #2', the forums goers are saying that TTK is too low, should we hotfix a damage nerf? CCP Dev #2 wrote: Meh, maybe later. What else is happening? CCP Dev #1 wrote: Well, there is this one thread pointing out how the Light Frame radius is 20m, instead of 16m CCP Dev #2 wrote: HOLY KITTENS! HOTFIX THAT IMMEDIATELY! Thanks for the hotfix CCP, Light Frames having 20m scan was so OP!
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5096	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:01:00 - [13] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: CCP Dev #1 wrote: Well 'CCP Dev #2', the forums goers are saying that TTK is too low, should we hotfix a damage nerf? CCP Dev #2 wrote: Meh, maybe later. What else is happening? CCP Dev #1 wrote: Well, there is this one thread pointing out how the Light Frame radius is 20m, instead of 16m CCP Dev #2 wrote: HOLY KITTENS! HOTFIX THAT IMMEDIATELY! I lol'd. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 13	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:21:00 - [14] - Quote Yes the game is not as fun with the new ttk i hope it will be fixed our im going back to bf4. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1544	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:36:00 - [15] - Quote While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back. @Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it? "Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!" 1 Week later. "People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred." For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 714	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:44:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Working on it, just bleh, there is a lot of information involving properly toning this to where it needs to be. Funny thing is, I don't remember anyone complaining about how TTK was to slow in this. We want hit detection solved, not aim assist, and the game landing bullets for us making players better than they actually are.
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1546	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:48:00 - [17] - Quote 8213 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Working on it, just bleh, there is a lot of information involving properly toning this to where it needs to be. Funny thing is, I don't remember anyone complaining about how TTK was to slow in this. We want hit detection solved, not aim assist, and the game landing bullets for us making players better than they actually are. Oh god, a game about shooting people with people getting shot. Nerf it. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3317	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:51:00 - [18] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back. @Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it? "Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!" 1 Week later. "People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred." A 10% Damage nerf making it take forever to kill a Scout? How often do you play? It doesn't even take half a second to kill a Scout, and a 10% nerf wont change that at all. Thanks for the hotfix CCP, Light Frames having 20m scan was so OP!
Minako Nakajima Vortex State Empire Dark Taboo 31	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:51:00 - [19] - Quote armor or shield hp below 150 is like wet tissue paper... "Looks can kill." // Terminally Insane
Kira Takizawa Ethereal Eden 20	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:51:00 - [20] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. what about when you have multiple ARs and scrams focus firing you? that's what happens the majority of the time people die by these weapons. a lot of squads are doing this. a few scrams to take out your shields and a few ARs for your armor. all focused on you. show me vid of one scram or one AR 1 shotting you or even 2 shotting you in a decent fit with core skills to 5. it doesn't happen. Or just one proto version of AR and scrams

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1568	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:53:00 - [21] - Quote Things just need to be rebalanced. It is not hard to move far enough to break the Aim Assist lock. The problem is that you die before you have a chance to move.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 826	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:53:00 - [22] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. Shotguns and explosives I agree with, but with how trivial it is to snipe in this game, snipers don't deserve a high DPS. If they had ballistics and no redline, I would probably change my mind. I have never played a game before where sniping is so easy, sniping in COD is harder than it is in this game. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3317	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:55:00 - [23] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. Shotguns and explosives I agree with, but with how trivial it is to snipe in this game, snipers don't deserve a high DPS. If they had ballistics and no redline, I would probably change my mind. I have never played a game before where sniping is so easy, sniping in COD is harder than it is in this game. Sniping is much harder in this game, against a Proto suit, unless its poorly fit, you have to get at least two conesecutive heashots (Add 3-4 for a Heavy) with even an Ishukone, to take them down. Sniping is much harder in this game, just in Skirm and Dom, its safer because of the redline, Snipers need an increased headshot modifier. Thanks for the hotfix CCP, Light Frames having 20m scan was so OP!
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1248	Posted - 2013.11.16 22:04:00 - [24] - Quote 8213 wrote: Ah, nothing like being a Scout with Kin-cats, running 95m away, ducking, dodging, weaving, blah, blah, blah... but some how a Militia AR can magically track you, and have their sight stick to you, and shoot you dead... Not to mention the cheap f*cks you are using modded controllers so their Duvolles have zero recoil, so if you pop out, the can shoot you dead in 0.2 seconds, because all there bullets fired like a straight laser in the 0.1 seconds you were an available target. I'm not stupid... when I see some guy strafing back and forth at 10m/sec but still able to hit EVERY single bullet I know it's either KB&M or modded controller. Even the best AR straffers in the game aren't able to do that. You can certainly tell, because even the shooting sounds different, you can hear the choppy speed on the gun firing. Aim assist is good, but not THAT good. The ign'nce of this post... AR's have 0 recoil until ~20 shots have been fired. Most people just stop firing for half a second after 15 or so shots to keep their shots recoilless. ZionTCD Director PRO Amarr Sentinel \| ADV Amarr Logi \| ADV Minmatar Scout What is a signature?
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 529	Posted - 2013.11.16 22:09:00 - [25] - Quote I have started tanking with a Soma since the TTK went up for infantry. Then I met swarms.. LOOOOOOL! KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 345	Posted - 2013.11.16 22:11:00 - [26] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Sniping is much harder in this game, against a Proto suit, unless its poorly fit, you have to get at least two conesecutive heashots (Add 3-4 for a Heavy) with even an Ishukone, to take them down. Sniping is much harder in this game, just in Skirm and Dom, its safer because of the redline, Snipers need an increased headshot modifier. Get a mouse and you'll be able to line up headshots easily. Also sniping in this game is very easy; which is puzzling as to why so many snipers in this game suck. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Haerr Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 97	Posted - 2013.11.16 22:14:00 - [27] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: CCP Dev #1 wrote: Well 'CCP Dev #2', the forums goers are saying that TTK is too low, should we hotfix a damage nerf? CCP Dev #2 wrote: Meh, maybe later. What else is happening? CCP Dev #1 wrote: Well, there is this one thread pointing out how the Light Frame radius is 20m, instead of 16m CCP Dev #2 wrote: HOLY KITTENS! HOTFIX THAT IMMEDIATELY! Bitter, butthurt and trying to HTFU.
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1546	Posted - 2013.11.16 22:22:00 - [28] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back. @Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it? "Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!" 1 Week later. "People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred." A 10% Damage nerf making it take forever to kill a Scout? How often do you play? It doesn't even take half a second to kill a Scout, and a 10% nerf wont change that at all. Considering they way you guys overreacted about the TTK, you would freak out about it like that. Also, 10+10=20. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5105	Posted - 2013.11.16 22:23:00 - [29] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back. @Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it? "Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!" 1 Week later. "People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred." A 10% Damage nerf making it take forever to kill a Scout? How often do you play? It doesn't even take half a second to kill a Scout, and a 10% nerf wont change that at all. Considering they way you guys overreacted about the TTK, you would freak out about it like that. Also, 10+10=20. A 20% nerf won't change how long it takes to kill a scout because they die practically instantly. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
ThePlayerkyle13 D3LTA ACADEMY 8	Posted - 2013.11.16 22:35:00 - [30] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I had fun when people didn't die instantly to every hitscan weapon in the game. Now it's just a twitch shooter. Now that hit detection is up to par they seriously need to tone back the stupid aim assist. Aim assist doesn't work for me, i cant tell difference if its on or off...

calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 956	Posted - 2013.11.16 22:52:00 - [31] - Quote The fact someone can shoot you twice with a charge shot from a ScR and kill a 700+ suit is stupid. Do not eat the yellow snow
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3330	Posted - 2013.11.16 23:45:00 - [32] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back. @Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it? "Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!" 1 Week later. "People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred." A 10% Damage nerf making it take forever to kill a Scout? How often do you play? It doesn't even take half a second to kill a Scout, and a 10% nerf wont change that at all. Considering they way you guys overreacted about the TTK, you would freak out about it like that. Also, 10+10=20. Even then CCP's priorities are messed up. Majority of the players in uproar over the short TTK, a new thread almost everyday concerning the subject, and one thread, in which the OP has gotten over 100 likes asking to bring back the old Dust, and through all this chaos, CCP dedicates their time to 'Fixing' the Light Frame Scan radius. If its that easy to nerf Light frames, I dont get why its so hard to buff them, would anyone here be opposed to a speed, CPU / PG, and Scan Radius buff to Scouts? I highly doubt it. Thanks for the hotfix CCP, Light Frames having 20m scan was so OP!
Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 260	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:10:00 - [33] - Quote calvin b wrote: The fact someone can shoot you twice with a charge shot from a ScR and kill a 700+ suit is stupid. No it isn't, those shots will make you overload your ScR, and on top of that, you have to be deadly accurate and make sure they don't move too much or turn around to kill you as you wait for your second charge up "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Suanar Daranaus Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 52	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:11:00 - [34] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. Agreed
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1550	Posted - 2013.11.17 02:52:00 - [35] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: calvin b wrote: The fact someone can shoot you twice with a charge shot from a ScR and kill a 700+ suit is stupid. No it isn't, those shots will make you overload your ScR, and on top of that, you have to be deadly accurate and make sure they don't move too much or turn around to kill you as you wait for your second charge up And, you know, you have to hit the charge shot. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1550	Posted - 2013.11.17 02:59:00 - [36] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: While I feel you guys are WAY over exaggerating the TTK issue, I would desire the 10% buff rolled back. @Knight, would you like them to kneejerk reaction to it? "Oh, people don't like the TTK?" "GOOD KITTEN, REMOVE THAT BUFF, AND NERF THE GUNS 10% AGAIN!" 1 Week later. "People are complaining that it takes forever to kill a scout!" "I wonder who this could have occurred." A 10% Damage nerf making it take forever to kill a Scout? How often do you play? It doesn't even take half a second to kill a Scout, and a 10% nerf wont change that at all. Considering they way you guys overreacted about the TTK, you would freak out about it like that. Also, 10+10=20. Even then CCP's priorities are messed up. Majority of the players in uproar over the short TTK, a new thread almost everyday concerning the subject, and one thread, in which the OP has gotten over 100 likes asking to bring back the old Dust, and through all this chaos, CCP dedicates their time to 'Fixing' the Light Frame Scan radius. If its that easy to nerf Light frames, I dont get why its so hard to buff them, would anyone here be opposed to a speed, CPU / PG, and Scan Radius buff to Scouts? I highly doubt it. Because it takes more maths to figure out how much you need to buff each if those light stats or how much to reduce damage to prevent an over/under nerf then to hotfix something to fit their original plan. It needs more time to do a buff or nerf that was just officially made then to hotfix a plan. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Rusty Shallows 495	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:13:00 - [37] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I had fun when people didn't die instantly to every hitscan weapon in the game. Now it's just a twitch shooter. Ouch. That's the nastiest insult you and levy on a First-Person-Shooter. Does anyone else remember earlier this year when we were complaining about the Time-To-Kill being too long? Full circle and twelve months haven't passed yet. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 498	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:27:00 - [38] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. what about when you have multiple ARs and scrams focus firing you? that's what happens the majority of the time people die by these weapons. a lot of squads are doing this. a few scrams to take out your shields and a few ARs for your armor. all focused on you. show me vid of one scram or one AR 1 shotting you or even 2 shotting you in a decent fit with core skills to 5. it doesn't happen. They don't one or two shot, I'll grant that, and more often than not there are multiple people shooting you. But when you have literally ONE guy with a Duvolle or Carthum taking on 3-4 people and WINNING (I know this because I SCANNED THE AREA) there is something wrong. Not to mention SMG's. Ever think about if that person is running damage mods,or multiple damage mods.Most people that rack up lot of kills are doing this. The problem is more the damage mods than the guns themselves.Too bad most people don't realize this.
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1550	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:08:00 - [39] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I had fun when people didn't die instantly to every hitscan weapon in the game. Now it's just a twitch shooter. Ouch. That's the nastiest insult you and levy on a First-Person-Shooter. Does anyone else remember earlier this year when we were complaining about the Time-To-Kill being too long? Full circle and twelve months haven't passed yet. +1 We demanded this because HD and aiming was jacked up. Now those aren't messed up, we want it back to before. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1209	Posted - 2013.11.17 05:35:00 - [40] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Snipers, shotguns, and explosives should be the fastest killers. Not AR's and ScR's. what about when you have multiple ARs and scrams focus firing you? that's what happens the majority of the time people die by these weapons. a lot of squads are doing this. a few scrams to take out your shields and a few ARs for your armor. all focused on you. show me vid of one scram or one AR 1 shotting you or even 2 shotting you in a decent fit with core skills to 5. it doesn't happen. They don't one or two shot, I'll grant that, and more often than not there are multiple people shooting you. But when you have literally ONE guy with a Duvolle or Carthum taking on 3-4 people and WINNING (I know this because I SCANNED THE AREA) there is something wrong. Not to mention SMG's. it depends on who the one guy is and who the 4 guys are and how their suits are fit... how do you know it just wasn't skill vs noob? also if your theory about ars/ scrs is true then isn't it possible they were all running them? and if so why couldn't 4 ar/scr take out 1 guy if they are so OP. point is, a scan doesn't give all the info you need to know for sure why 1 guy killed 4. I have killed 10 by myself.... with an RE on a popular link they all spawned at and didn't notice me their... so to automatically assume the situation you witnessed with limited info was some OP AR/SCR is folly. insert witty or profound statement here _______.



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