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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4427	Posted - 2013.11.15 16:53:00 - [1] - Quote Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
Draco Cerberus Hell's Gate Inc 500	Posted - 2013.11.15 16:55:00 - [2] - Quote Lol Cat there is no proof, they kick ass harder I think they meant to say *One Universe...with friendly fire and Open World Game Play for all!*
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4427	Posted - 2013.11.15 16:58:00 - [3] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: Lol Cat there is no proof, they kick ass harder I think they meant to say If that's the case... They should probably know that range is increased and dispersion is reduced between the levels. Which is how it works with most of the weapons. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:07:00 - [4] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread I can't believe you don't know considering you have played as long as me or longer if you was in closed beta. I'm not sure who started pointing out the FACT but you should know seriously, are you trying to troll? Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5051	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:10:00 - [5] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread I can't believe you don't know considering you have played as long as me or longer if you was in closed beta. I'm not sure who started pointing out the FACT but you should know seriously, are you trying to troll? Can't say I've noticed any difference in recoil between my Exile and my Duvolle... Admittedly it may be because people vaporise instantly. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:10:00 - [6] - Quote In fact, use the regular ar or mlt, see how you can unload a whole clip without much kick, now do that with a duvolle and see how you have to stop every 15 ish shots to steady your aim. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 269	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:13:00 - [7] - Quote Yea who started this!! See no one would come out because you scared the crap out of him online. You keyboard warrior you.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4428	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:14:00 - [8] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: In fact, use the regular ar or mlt, see how you can unload a whole clip without much kick, now do that with a duvolle and see how you have to stop every 15 ish shots to steady your aim. I've heard this countless of times, but never saw proof, and it was always unknown randoms that if asked nobody could tell whey they were. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Public Disorder. 543	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:15:00 - [9] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: In fact, use the regular ar or mlt, see how you can unload a whole clip without much kick, now do that with a duvolle and see how you have to stop every 15 ish shots to steady your aim. The difference is that if you are using the Duvolle, they are dead after 15 rounds. The readjust time is almost perfect for mopping people up. Please also note that if you hold down the trigger on the Gek, it becomes just as walkative as the Duvolle. 20 round bursts are the way to go. Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Gorra Snell The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 225	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:17:00 - [10] - Quote Another "well-known fact" was just overturned: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120992&find=unread I'm with Cat, these things should be tested.

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4428	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:17:00 - [11] - Quote Uhhh.... So I just compared a toxin to a duvolle. They are an exact match. So again, who the hell started this? *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
STABBEY Ancient Exiles. 463	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:21:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread Who ever said it is right, AR gets tweaked here and there silently as tonot ** off AR users, I have used AR's since the begining of closed Beta. At current YES The BPO AR is more Accurate and kicks less, and YES** the Duvole has more recoil and kicks more making it less accurate. The Duvole DOES have more range and damage of course making it a deadly weapon anyway. To say this is a myth is stupidity, its very true no matter what the stats on the actual gun say. Stealth nerfs are annoying but its somthing AR users should be used to.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:21:00 - [13] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: In fact, use the regular ar or mlt, see how you can unload a whole clip without much kick, now do that with a duvolle and see how you have to stop every 15 ish shots to steady your aim. I've heard this countless of times, but never saw proof, and it was always unknown randoms that if asked nobody could tell whey they were. Well I'm not a random, there are many social circles in dust. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1353	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:21:00 - [14] - Quote They used to be different, a very long time ago. There was a time when people used the GEK instead of a Duvolle because it worked better at longer ranges. Been quite a while since this was true though, but I'm not sure when the guns were equalized.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:22:00 - [15] - Quote STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread Who ever said it is right, AR gets tweaked here and there silently as tonot ** off AR users, I have used AR's since the begining of closed Beta. At current YES The BPO AR is more Accurate and kicks less, and YES** the Duvole has more recoil and kicks more making it less accurate. The Duvole DOES have more range and damage of course making it a deadly weapon anyway. To say this is a myth is stupidity, its very true no matter what the stats on the actual gun say. Stealth nerfs are annoying but its somthing AR users should be used to. There you go. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4428	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:23:00 - [16] - Quote STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread Who ever said it is right, AR gets tweaked here and there silently as tonot ** off AR users, I have used AR's since the begining of closed Beta. At current YES The BPO AR is more Accurate and kicks less, and YES the Duvole has more recoil and kicks more making it less accurate. The Duvole DOES have more range and damage of course making it a deadly weapon anyway. To say this is a myth is stupidity, its very true no matter what the stats on the actual gun say. Stealth nerfs are annoying but its somthing AR users should be used to. I just compared the two, side by side, using a black eagle suit to quickly switch between the two. They behave the same. Also, dispersion is lower between the tiers. Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant Beta Vet Level 4 Forum Warrior**
STABBEY Ancient Exiles. 463	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:28:00 - [17] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread Who ever said it is right, AR gets tweaked here and there silently as tonot ** off AR users, I have used AR's since the begining of closed Beta. At current YES The BPO AR is more Accurate and kicks less, and YES** the Duvole has more recoil and kicks more making it less accurate. The Duvole DOES have more range and damage of course making it a deadly weapon anyway. To say this is a myth is stupidity, its very true no matter what the stats on the actual gun say. Stealth nerfs are annoying but its somthing AR users should be used to. I just compared the two, side by side, using a black eagle suit to quickly switch between the two. They behave the same. Also, dispersion is lower between the tiers. Use the BPO for a few games so you get the feel of it at all ranges, then switch to the duvole for some games, you will feel the difference. It was a stealth nerf around 1.3ish I even put in a ticket about it when I noticed they did it and CCP just said they were tweaking the weapons blablabla.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:29:00 - [18] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread Who ever said it is right, AR gets tweaked here and there silently as tonot ** off AR users, I have used AR's since the begining of closed Beta. At current YES The BPO AR is more Accurate and kicks less, and YES** the Duvole has more recoil and kicks more making it less accurate. The Duvole DOES have more range and damage of course making it a deadly weapon anyway. To say this is a myth is stupidity, its very true no matter what the stats on the actual gun say. Stealth nerfs are annoying but its somthing AR users should be used to. I just compared the two, side by side, using a black eagle suit to quickly switch between the two. They behave the same. Also, dispersion is lower between the tiers. Maybe you will actually notice it while shooting at someone provided your not just denying it and honestly haven't noticed it. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 317	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:32:00 - [19] - Quote In Chromosome it was true... Now it just simply isn't true. Hence the death of the 'exile' on every merc's fitting list.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4428	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:34:00 - [20] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread Who ever said it is right, AR gets tweaked here and there silently as tonot ** off AR users, I have used AR's since the begining of closed Beta. At current YES The BPO AR is more Accurate and kicks less, and YES the Duvole has more recoil and kicks more making it less accurate. The Duvole DOES have more range and damage of course making it a deadly weapon anyway. To say this is a myth is stupidity, its very true no matter what the stats on the actual gun say. Stealth nerfs are annoying but its somthing AR users should be used to. I just compared the two, side by side, using a black eagle suit to quickly switch between the two. They behave the same. Also, dispersion is lower between the tiers. Maybe you will actually notice it while shooting at someone provided your not just denying it and honestly haven't noticed it. It just doesn't exist. I kept both AR's aimed at the same place. Fired a full mag and saw where it was aimed when one's recoil was done. Then switched to the other using R2 to see where the other was done. I could not tell the difference, they both ended in the same place within margin of error. (Sometimes duvolle kicked less, sometimes Toxin kicked less, but it was 50/50) Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant Beta Vet Level 4 Forum Warrior**

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:34:00 - [21] - Quote Bethhy wrote: In Chromosome it was true... Now it just simply isn't true. Hence the death of the 'exile' on every merc's fitting list. You must be trolling. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
STABBEY Ancient Exiles. 463	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:41:00 - [22] - Quote This was made more obvious after 1.2 and after a week of playing with each rifle BPO+Proto I asked CCP about it, this change did happen and is still in effect. CCP's response when I asked about this topic: Hello, Thank you for contacting DUST 514 Customer Support. Yes we can see that you have high level of Assault rifle skills. We are constantly making a change to find the best possible balance for our players. The current setting may not be necessarily how it is going to be in the future. If you strongly feel something need to change, please visit the link provided below to file a proper feedback report because our development team is checking the page constantly to improve the game play in DUST 514. Please scroll down to find Feedback/Request. Best Regards, GM Avantgarde CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:41:00 - [23] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread Who ever said it is right, AR gets tweaked here and there silently as tonot ** off AR users, I have used AR's since the begining of closed Beta. At current YES The BPO AR is more Accurate and kicks less, and YES** the Duvole has more recoil and kicks more making it less accurate. The Duvole DOES have more range and damage of course making it a deadly weapon anyway. To say this is a myth is stupidity, its very true no matter what the stats on the actual gun say. Stealth nerfs are annoying but its somthing AR users should be used to. I just compared the two, side by side, using a black eagle suit to quickly switch between the two. They behave the same. Also, dispersion is lower between the tiers. Maybe you will actually notice it while shooting at someone provided your not just denying it and honestly haven't noticed it. It just doesn't exist. I kept both AR's aimed at the same place. Fired a full mag and saw where it was aimed when one's recoil was done. Then switched to the other using R2 to see where the other was done. I could not tell the difference, they both ended in the same place within margin of error. (Sometimes duvolle kicked less, sometimes Toxin kicked less, but it was 50/50) Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4430	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:43:00 - [24] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm. Placebo most likely. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:45:00 - [25] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm. Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 936	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:45:00 - [26] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who the hell started this myth that higher tier AR's kick more and are less accurate? I see this bullshit spewn on the forums pretty commonly, like it's common knowledge. Is there actually any proof? Who started this? Today it's this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121492&find=unread Who ever said it is right, AR gets tweaked here and there silently as tonot ** off AR users, I have used AR's since the begining of closed Beta. At current YES The BPO AR is more Accurate and kicks less, and YES** the Duvole has more recoil and kicks more making it less accurate. The Duvole DOES have more range and damage of course making it a deadly weapon anyway. To say this is a myth is stupidity, its very true no matter what the stats on the actual gun say. Stealth nerfs are annoying but its somthing AR users should be used to. I just compared the two, side by side, using a black eagle suit to quickly switch between the two. They behave the same. Also, dispersion is lower between the tiers. just tested with black eagle suit and exile , gek or duvolle same kick. i guess whoever started the rumor is worried the op ar is getting fixed.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:46:00 - [27] - Quote STABBEY wrote: This was made more obvious after 1.2 and after a week of playing with each rifle BPO+Proto I asked CCP about it, this change did happen and is still in effect. CCP's response when I asked about this topic: Hello, Thank you for contacting DUST 514 Customer Support. Yes we can see that you have high level of Assault rifle skills. We are constantly making a change to find the best possible balance for our players. The current setting may not be necessarily how it is going to be in the future. If you strongly feel something need to change, please visit the link provided below to file a proper feedback report because our development team is checking the page constantly to improve the game play in DUST 514. Please scroll down to find Feedback/Request. Best Regards, GM Avantgarde CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514 This. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4430	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:46:00 - [28] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm. Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. Maybe you were denying that you were wrong all along after side by side comparison? *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4430	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:47:00 - [29] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: STABBEY wrote: This was made more obvious after 1.2 and after a week of playing with each rifle BPO+Proto I asked CCP about it, this change did happen and is still in effect. CCP's response when I asked about this topic: Hello, Thank you for contacting DUST 514 Customer Support. Yes we can see that you have high level of Assault rifle skills. We are constantly making a change to find the best possible balance for our players. The current setting may not be necessarily how it is going to be in the future. If you strongly feel something need to change, please visit the link provided below to file a proper feedback report because our development team is checking the page constantly to improve the game play in DUST 514. Please scroll down to find Feedback/Request. Best Regards, GM Avantgarde CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514 This. It says nothing at all about that situation... *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1413	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:48:00 - [30] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm. Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. Maybe you were denying that you were wrong all along after side by side comparison? Not at all, stabbey even showed evidence, I'm fine with being wrong when I'm wrong. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.

STABBEY Ancient Exiles. 464	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:49:00 - [31] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm. Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. Maybe you were denying that you were wrong all along after side by side comparison? Shooting at a wall is a bad test, you need to actually play 2-5 games with the BPO shooting at actual people in combat normally, Then do that with the Proto. Of course you see no difference shooting a wall.. ITS A DAMNED WALL lol Play normal for your expirement EDIT: That response was from july, It confirmed the stealth changes that they did at the time. It did happen period lol. But by now every1 should be used to it. It's been months now.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 320	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:50:00 - [32] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm. Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. He's not the one in denial.. people use a lesser rifle NOW simply to fit more damage mod's and negate the fall off for damage. Before it was genuinely less recoil... I remember the Balac's in Chromosome... it would skip entire screen's at the end of it's clip. That compared to the exile was hilarious THEN... was like an assault rifle now... to an AK-47 in Counter-strike. Now the balac's is almost even lifeless with very little personality.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4430	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:51:00 - [33] - Quote STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm. Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. Maybe you were denying that you were wrong all along after side by side comparison? Shooting at a wall is a bad test, you need to actually play 2-5 games with the BPO shooting at actual people in combat normally, Then do that with the Proto. Of course you see no difference shooting a wall.. ITS A DAMNED WALL lol Play normal for your expirement Uhh... I compared where the recoil cutoff with the two. There is no need to go into combat if both show the same results on a hard test bed that can't be fooled. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1414	Posted - 2013.11.15 17:51:00 - [34] - Quote STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm. Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. Maybe you were denying that you were wrong all along after side by side comparison? Shooting at a wall is a bad test, you need to actually play 2-5 games with the BPO shooting at actual people in combat normally, Then do that with the Proto. Of course you see no difference shooting a wall.. ITS A DAMNED WALL lol Play normal for your expirement He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4430	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:00:00 - [35] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either. Limiting the amount of factors affecting the test is a #1 priority when doing such tests. In combat there are too many factors that could skew the results. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
STABBEY Ancient Exiles. 464	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:03:00 - [36] - Quote There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4430	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:08:00 - [37] - Quote STABBEY wrote: There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it. I have AR maxed too, and up to a month ago I have mained it. (Though I now main the SCR) *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP 147	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:09:00 - [38] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either. Limiting the amount of factors affecting the test is a #1 priority when doing such tests. In combat there are too many factors that could skew the results. You guys need a crash test dummy like the HMG video has. DUST514 I love the dream but not the current product. Dusters - WhenGäó CCP - SoonGäó
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4430	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:11:00 - [39] - Quote CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either. Limiting the amount of factors affecting the test is a #1 priority when doing such tests. In combat there are too many factors that could skew the results. You guys need a crash test dummy like the HMG video has. I am currently trying to think of a way to more accurately test it, and then record it. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1414	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:14:00 - [40] - Quote STABBEY wrote: There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it. I use the toxin for the reduced kick allowing for prolonged shots fired on target with no re adjustment, nah cat has maxed skills as well. Its just another post stating how it is that gets denied based on, well, a supposed test thats apparently more valid than your confirmation from CCP which shouldn't have been needed as its obvious anyway lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.

STABBEY Ancient Exiles. 465	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:14:00 - [41] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: STABBEY wrote: There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it. I have AR maxed too, and up to a month ago I have mained it. (Though I now main the SCR) Well in any case it happened If you dont notice it cool. But it is there, I noticed it when they did it and asked about it and was just told how the weapons are now may not be how they will be in the future blablabla, when the change occured on 1.2 I had skills maxed and felt the tweak immediatly but its not game breaking or nerfed into the ground so people arguing about it isnt going to get any1 anywhere. 1 day they may or may not change it again who knows, this is still beta for the most part. I'm gonna go kill stuff now. Enjoy
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1414	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:18:00 - [42] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either. Limiting the amount of factors affecting the test is a #1 priority when doing such tests. In combat there are too many factors that could skew the results. You guys need a crash test dummy like the HMG video has. I am currently trying to think of a way to more accurately test it, and then record it. Just video a match with a duvolle then a match with a mlt or regular ar, making sure you are holding down the fire button as long as possible so its clear how easily you can keep more shots on target due to reduced recoil on the mlt or regular ar, I could use my phone but the quality sucks and it seems ridiculous to me you can't notice it when you have even tested it yourself lol. Shocking. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4431	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:19:00 - [43] - Quote STABBEY wrote: Cat Merc wrote: STABBEY wrote: There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it. I have AR maxed too, and up to a month ago I have mained it. (Though I now main the SCR) Well in any case it happened If you dont notice it cool. But it is there, I noticed it when they did it and asked about it and was just told how the weapons are now may not be how they will be in the future blablabla, when the change occured on 1.2 I had skills maxed and felt the tweak immediatly but its not game breaking or nerfed into the ground so people arguing about it isnt going to get any1 anywhere. 1 day they may or may not change it again who knows, this is still beta for the most part. I'm gonna go kill stuff now. Enjoy VoV *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*


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