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STABBEY
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:49:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm.
Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. Maybe you were denying that you were wrong all along after side by side comparison?
Shooting at a wall is a bad test, you need to actually play 2-5 games with the BPO shooting at actual people in combat normally, Then do that with the Proto.
Of course you see no difference shooting a wall.. ITS A DAMNED WALL lol
Play normal for your expirement 
EDIT: That response was from july, It confirmed the stealth changes that they did at the time. It did happen period lol. But by now every1 should be used to it. It's been months now. |
Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:50:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm.
Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood.
He's not the one in denial..
people use a lesser rifle NOW simply to fit more damage mod's and negate the fall off for damage.
Before it was genuinely less recoil... I remember the Balac's in Chromosome... it would skip entire screen's at the end of it's clip.
That compared to the exile was hilarious THEN... was like an assault rifle now... to an AK-47 in Counter-strike.
Now the balac's is almost even lifeless with very little personality. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:51:00 -
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STABBEY wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm.
Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. Maybe you were denying that you were wrong all along after side by side comparison? Shooting at a wall is a bad test, you need to actually play 2-5 games with the BPO shooting at actual people in combat normally, Then do that with the Proto. Of course you see no difference shooting a wall.. ITS A DAMNED WALL lol Play normal for your expirement
Uhh...
I compared where the recoil cutoff with the two.
There is no need to go into combat if both show the same results on a hard test bed that can't be fooled.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:51:00 -
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STABBEY wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
Thats crazy because I use my toxin for the fact its has basically no recoil compared to the duvolle and slightly less than a gek making every single shot land almost guaranteed. I use it specifically against duvolle users as I can keep the iron sight on them for longer than they possibly can on me as well. Works a charm.
Placebo most likely. Riiiight, you are denying it, understood. Maybe you were denying that you were wrong all along after side by side comparison? Shooting at a wall is a bad test, you need to actually play 2-5 games with the BPO shooting at actual people in combat normally, Then do that with the Proto. Of course you see no difference shooting a wall.. ITS A DAMNED WALL lol Play normal for your expirement
He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:00:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:
He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either.
Limiting the amount of factors affecting the test is a #1 priority when doing such tests.
In combat there are too many factors that could skew the results.
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STABBEY
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:03:00 -
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There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:08:00 -
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STABBEY wrote:There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it.
I have AR maxed too, and up to a month ago I have mained it. (Though I now main the SCR)
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CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:09:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either.
Limiting the amount of factors affecting the test is a #1 priority when doing such tests. In combat there are too many factors that could skew the results.
You guys need a crash test dummy like the HMG video has.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:11:00 -
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CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either.
Limiting the amount of factors affecting the test is a #1 priority when doing such tests. In combat there are too many factors that could skew the results. You guys need a crash test dummy like the HMG video has.
I am currently trying to think of a way to more accurately test it, and then record it.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:14:00 -
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STABBEY wrote:There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it.
I use the toxin for the reduced kick allowing for prolonged shots fired on target with no re adjustment, nah cat has maxed skills as well. Its just another post stating how it is that gets denied based on, well, a supposed test thats apparently more valid than your confirmation from CCP which shouldn't have been needed as its obvious anyway lol.
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STABBEY
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:STABBEY wrote:There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it. I have AR maxed too, and up to a month ago I have mained it. (Though I now main the SCR)
Well in any case it happened  If you dont notice it cool. But it is there, I noticed it when they did it and asked about it and was just told how the weapons are now may not be how they will be in the future blablabla, when the change occured on 1.2 I had skills maxed and felt the tweak immediatly but its not game breaking or nerfed into the ground so people arguing about it isnt going to get any1 anywhere.
1 day they may or may not change it again who knows, this is still beta for the most part. I'm gonna go kill stuff now. Enjoy  |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:18:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
He doesn't even notice, I am baffled completely because he's not a nub either.
Limiting the amount of factors affecting the test is a #1 priority when doing such tests. In combat there are too many factors that could skew the results. You guys need a crash test dummy like the HMG video has. I am currently trying to think of a way to more accurately test it, and then record it.
Just video a match with a duvolle then a match with a mlt or regular ar, making sure you are holding down the fire button as long as possible so its clear how easily you can keep more shots on target due to reduced recoil on the mlt or regular ar, I could use my phone but the quality sucks and it seems ridiculous to me you can't notice it when you have even tested it yourself lol. Shocking.
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Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:19:00 -
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STABBEY wrote:Cat Merc wrote:STABBEY wrote:There could be a difference for Cat and me because I have all AR skills maxed out and have for months. Maybe it is different for him then it is me, but with ALL skills maxed playing hundreds of games with both I can see and feel the difference. I've never used any other main weapon, people that use multiple weapons may just not notice it. I have AR maxed too, and up to a month ago I have mained it. (Though I now main the SCR) Well in any case it happened If you dont notice it cool. But it is there, I noticed it when they did it and asked about it and was just told how the weapons are now may not be how they will be in the future blablabla, when the change occured on 1.2 I had skills maxed and felt the tweak immediatly but its not game breaking or nerfed into the ground so people arguing about it isnt going to get any1 anywhere. 1 day they may or may not change it again who knows, this is still beta for the most part. I'm gonna go kill stuff now. Enjoy
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