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Patrick57
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:48:00 -
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I don't care HOW many threads have been made about this, they need to keep being made until CCP does something about it.
I played a match earlier today where I died ~10 times.
Every death was by an Assault Rifle.
Seriously?
Thoughts?
IMO this is ******* crazy. Either Aim Assist or the 10% damage bonus need to go.
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Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:51:00 -
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Good luck bud.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:51:00 -
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Go ahead, I switched from the AR to the SCR a month or so ago.
Nerf it, see what happens to the popularity of the SCR.
Psst
You won't like it.
Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant
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Snaps Tremor
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:52:00 -
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Hit the dev post button, see how much dialogue isn't being had about it, then decide for yourself whether this is a game you want to give your time and attention.
(That said, every death being AR is nothing new, the real 1.6 change is how little you can do about it now.) |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:52:00 -
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Aim assist isn't as major as you think it is - all it would do is increase the skill gap between players. Plenty are still able to hit you 9 times out of 10, aim assist or not.
The 10% damage buff thing also probably would not have that much of an effect. Out of all those times you died, how many times would 10% more time to live have saved you?
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:52:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:I don't care HOW many threads have been made about this, they need to keep being made until CCP does something about it. I played a match earlier today where I died ~10 times. Every death was by an Assault Rifle.Seriously? Thoughts? IMO this is ******* crazy. Either Aim Assist or the 10% damage bonus need to go. LinkSign this if you agree. List- Patrick57
Not sure what you game are playing but i am 80% getting OHK by Grenades ...
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:54:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:
Not sure what you game are playing but i am 80% getting OHK by Grenades ...
Oh god.
Core locus is so, so much worse than a Duvolle.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:54:00 -
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Grenades are out of hand
I don't care HOW many threads have been made about this, they need to keep being made until CCP does something about it.
I played a match earlier today where I died ~4 times.
Every death was by a Grenade.
Seriously?
Thoughts?
IMO this is ******* crazy. Either Grenades need to have a longer switch time or the Grenades need to have a longer switch time.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:57:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Grenades are out of hand I don't care HOW many threads have been made about this, they need to keep being made until CCP does something about it. I played a match earlier today where I died ~4 times. Every death was by a Grenade. Seriously? Thoughts? IMO this is ******* crazy. Either Grenades need to have a longer switch time or the Grenades need to have a longer switch time. Link
This is too funny.
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:58:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:I don't care HOW many threads have been made about this, they need to keep being made until CCP does something about it. I played a match earlier today where I died ~10 times. Every death was by an Assault Rifle.Seriously? Thoughts? IMO this is ******* crazy. Either Aim Assist or the 10% damage bonus need to go. LinkSign this if you agree. List- Patrick57
If those are the two options, then it's the Aim Assist IMHO. However honestly people just need to learn the "new game." there is a trend that happens in EVE Online. When a new release comes out, the dynamic of the game can change a lot. So much so that it might as well be a new game. Even the oldest players in EVE online have to relearn stuff when this happens.
Right now in DUST every re-balancing patch may as well be a new game in the same respects. So learn to play the new game already. If anything is certain, this game will be similar to EVE and that means only one constant... CHANGE. Be prepared to never get bored with it and to always have to compensate for it.
AR's taking you out too much? Wear more shields. Scramblers annoying you, wear more armor. Know how the game works and be willing to use the same stuff the enemy is willing to use against you.
But most of all adapt or die.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:58:00 -
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Indeed, its getting so bad that its
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Followed with Core Locust to the face because they knew your position, and hey ...if that misses ...me and my team have 17 left ...ONE WILL GET YOU !!!
**** guys all 18 missed ..get dem Hives out peoples !!!!
Aaaaand then the mass driver finishes you off when you run for your life dodging cores like Neo in the Matrix ....except i need to learn to fly ...don't suggest a dropship or ill murder you... :p
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:58:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Grenades are out of hand I don't care HOW many threads have been made about this, they need to keep being made until CCP does something about it. I played a match earlier today where I died ~4 times. Every death was by a Grenade. Seriously? Thoughts? IMO this is ******* crazy. Either Grenades need to have a longer switch time or the Grenades need to have a longer switch time. Link
This human.
This human gets a medal.
A medal of honor.
A medla of feline honor.
AKA a like.
Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant
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Auld Syne
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:59:00 -
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That is how I imagine the Amarr with Grenades. |
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:00:00 -
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Dmg mods need to removed from the game COMPLETELY.
as far as Im Concerned it's all the damage mod stacking that's cause the AR to be FOTM. If a logi ck0 can stack 3 complex Dmg mods with a duvolle, your looking at a 50+ Dmg per shot weapon with a great ROF that has 100% accuracy when ADS.
NOTE: I didn't do the math for 3dmg mods on an AR so those numbers are simply an educated guess.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:00:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:
AR's taking you out too much? Wear more shields. Scramblers annoying you, wear more armor. Know how the game works and be willing to use the same stuff the enemy is willing to use against you.
But most of all adapt or die.
Actually, ARs do slightly more damage to shields than armour. This is having an adverse effect on shield tanking at the moment, but hopefully that'll even out in 1.7 with the advent of the new rifles.
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Fire of Prometheus
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:03:00 -
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Auld Syne wrote:That is how I imagine the Amarr with Grenades.
Nah with me it's like hot potato.....click.....o jeez it's live!!! Throw it away!!!!!!!
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:08:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:I don't care HOW many threads have been made about this, they need to keep being made until CCP does something about it. I played a match earlier today where I died ~10 times. Every death was by an Assault Rifle.Seriously? Thoughts? IMO this is ******* crazy. Either Aim Assist or the 10% damage bonus need to go. LinkSign this if you agree. List- Patrick57
All it needs it a bit of kick and something to fix the feathering the trigger technique. Then people wouldn't be able to mow you down at range so easily. Oh and I turned aim assist on for the first time a couple days ago... Holy ****! Super easy mode. It definitely needs to be reworked or removed. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:10:00 -
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AR is getting nerfed relative to all the other rifles when it comes to range. Worry not my friend, this time next month we will all be complaining about how OP the rail rifle is. I hypothesize that rail rifle + smg is going to be the favored weapon combo followed closely by combat rifle + whatever side arm, and in 3rd place scrambler rifle + any sidearm. Meanwhile we will continue to see the phenomenon of frustrated heavies giving up their heavy weapons in favor of light rifles of any variety.
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:12:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:
AR's taking you out too much? Wear more shields. Scramblers annoying you, wear more armor. Know how the game works and be willing to use the same stuff the enemy is willing to use against you.
But most of all adapt or die.
Problem here is the fact that the Low TTK makes using weapons that have an advantageous effect on the opposing tank provides such little benefits that it is almost of no advantage at all.
LINK for data
Increase TTK, and then you will see that using scramblers against shield tanks and projectiles vs armor tanks will be useful.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Go ahead, I switched from the AR to the SCR a month or so ago.
Nerf it, see what happens to the popularity of the SCR.
Psst
You won't like it.
Spam shots 514, you know it, its really that easy 
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:17:00 -
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scrambler rifles are pretty popular right now
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calvin b
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:20:00 -
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Lets not sling the nerf hammer until the new rifles are released. I predict the AR will be forgot as OP after the new rifles show up.
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Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:22:00 -
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*kick* die! *kick* just stay dead you stupid horse.  |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:31:00 -
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AR needs to be fixed and the Scr needs to be adjusted. Yes, it should evaporate shields, though it is far too effective against Armor.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:21:00 -
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Aim assist was for ds3 v kbm dispute, if aim assist goes I"m back on the kbm / move with its better accuracy, it probably would help my sniper suits anyways.
HIt detection does not need to be nerfed, you should be hitting what your aiming at. ARs were given insane damage to compensate for bad hit detection (other weapons were not aka shotgun / NK).
So if anything just rescale auto weapons pack into the fold
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Blood Immortal
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:39:00 -
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Just came out of 3x SP week 90% of my deaths were by AR then 6% nades. TTK is very bad, making the game not fun. |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:43:00 -
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Not a well designed weapon |
Azri Sarum
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:44:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Indeed, its getting so bad that its
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Followed with Core Locust to the face because they knew your position, and hey ...if that misses ...me and my team have 17 left ...ONE WILL GET YOU !!!
**** guys all 18 missed ..get dem Hives out peoples !!!!
Aaaaand then the mass driver finishes you off when you run for your life dodging cores like Neo in the Matrix ....except i need to learn to fly ...don't suggest a dropship or ill murder you... :p
If you don't like being scanned then there are skills and modules to fix that problem.
The enemy not knowing your position every second of the match is worth far more than a plate or repper that wouldn't have saved you in the first place.
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:17:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Lets not sling the nerf hammer until the new rifles are released. I predict the AR will be forgot as OP after the new rifles show up.
So, you mean another problem to take care of? I'm sure CCP will get right on that 
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:23:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:AR's taking you out too much? Wear more shields. Scramblers annoying you, wear more armor.
That's one of the biggest problems with the AR and better hit detection.
I shouldn't have to stack 600 Armor on my Amarr Logi (which is all I see people doing anymore ) just to stay alive.
I shouldn't have to stack 3 Complex Damage Mods along with that 600 Armor just to compete with some Gallente suit's GEK.
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