AR's taking you out too much? Wear more shields. Scramblers annoying you, wear more armor. Know how the game works and be willing to use the same stuff the enemy is willing to use against you.

But most of all adapt or die.

AR needs to be fixed and the Scr needs to be adjusted. Yes, it should evaporate shields, though it is far too effective against Armor.

Actually it's bad against armor. It has an 80% damage efficiency against armor and it shows when use the rifle against an armor tanked target.

Lol the Scrambler rifle bad against armor?

bahahah, in what world?

AR needs to be fixed and the Scr needs to be adjusted. Yes, it should evaporate shields, though it is far too effective against Armor.

No offense to whoever I took this video from (your other shots are fine) but...

Being able to shoot like a drunk and making it work

I just took this bit here because it highlights one of the more irrational and aimless aspects of the auto fire weapons.

NOT ITS NOT.

I can actually FEEL i cant kill freakn Gal Logis proto because they pack 700 Armor with my 88 per shot becomes 70 per shot.
In any case, Scrambler rifles need their bonus changed to 115% vs Shields / 90% Vs armor

Ace, I've been two shot with a suit that is nothing but dualtank.

This was not a [STARTER FIT], this was a PRO Minmatar Logi stacking Enhanced Extenders in the Highs and Enhanced Plates in the lows. It should take more than two shots to drop that.

IMHO, Scrambler Rifles should be tweaked to 140%/60% if not 160%/40%.

Not sure what you game are playing but i am 80% getting OHK by Grenades ...

Every death was by an Assault Rifle.
Thoughts?

If the AR gets rebalanced, so should the ScR.
They are equally overpowered in their "every role" superiority.

HAHAHAHAHA Bro shotty c'mon.

Not they are not.

The AR fulfills the CQ role VERY good, so much that its better than Shotguns / Novas and sometimes EVEN SMG's at close quarters.
So powerful mid range that Nothing beats it at this range.
And so powerful at longer ranges that it drops LAser users,scramble R users and Tactical Ar users alike...

Please, a weapon with SO many drawbacks that DENIES you from killing 2+ enemies due to overheat mechanics is never gonna be compared with a 60 bullet AR that nets you 4+ kills per clip.

Please, dont....

This is too funny.

+1

Ace, I've been two shot with a suit that is nothing but dualtank.

This was not a [STARTER FIT], this was a PRO Minmatar Logi stacking Enhanced Extenders in the Highs and Enhanced Plates in the lows. It should take more than two shots to drop that.

IMHO, Scrambler Rifles should be tweaked to 140%/60% if not 160%/40%.

Signed.

Basically I think you just need to do a couple things to bring the AR in to balance in line with the racial rifles we get shortly.

1) no problem with the legit high end DPS and ROF. No issues with the variants, I'm even kinda ok with reducing the nerf on the TacAR an tiny bit.

2) add some some noticeable dispersion and recoil.

3) start the recoil and dispersion effects after the first 3 rounds...not the 20th.

4) significantly increase fall off damage or better yet accuracy once you get past optimal range

5) I think the discussion of an across the board 10% cut to light weapon damage is a legit discussion. That said you can run up max DPS pretty high (proficiency 5 and stacked damage mods = InstaBlap) even with dropping 10% off. Might need to re look that whole damage stacking concept.

What would you say about the

Breach Assault Rifle

Tactical Assault Rifle

Burst Assault Rifle

Please, clarify which variant you are talking about. It;s because of this that Tactical And Burst Assault Rifles are being nerfed.

Strange, did you say the same thing when you played other FPS multiplayer titles? Cause, ya know, there were plenty of ARs in those games too.

AR needs to be fixed and the Scr needs to be adjusted. Yes, it should evaporate shields, though it is far too effective against Armor.

OBVIOUSLY I'm talking about the standard, 750 RoF Fully Automatic Assault Rifle.

In this game there is so much more, more variety, more weapons (hell I'm thinking about running dual SMGs on my Logi) so it should be expected that people use more than just this gun.

But alas, game mechanics have made it the best at every range (unless of course there is a Sniper or Shotgunner).

^This.


I've noticed almost no difference shooting an AR at 5 meters as it is shooting someone at 50 meters. It's ****** up math IMO.

And lol recoil does need to be adjusted. I notice it at maybe the 45th round


Anyway, I'm at Amarr Assault Level 3 and the only AR I plan to use anytime soon is the Toxin, and that's because it has lower fitting requirements and it's free :D I will be running Scramblers a lot more often.

CCP This is getting out of hand!!!

Make a game that nobody dies!

IMO this is ******* crazy!