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8213
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:59:00 -
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Why, you ask? Because some kid spraying at a Scout can land a lucky 8 bullets and destroy a Scout. So, this month Scouts need to be fixed, because we sure as heck know CCP isn't going to fix anything that lowers the skill gap in this game.
So, fix the Scouts. because they went from usable (hard more) to unusable. Especially now that they have to invest in Dampeners instead of HP, because the Scanner and hit detection/aim assist have offically pushed Scouts off the cliff.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
630
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:04:00 -
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I wouldn't mind getting a ridiculous buff to be OP for a while.
How about 15 m/s movement speed and 25 m/s sprint speed? Also, we jump 10m high and have no fall damage.
Edit: I also want the wind effect LAVs and Dropships get when moving fast while sprinting. |
8213
The Neutral Zone
655
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:08:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I wouldn't mind getting a ridiculous buff to be OP for a while. How about 15 m/s movement speed and 25 m/s sprint speed? Also, we jump 10m high and have no fall damage. Edit: I also want the wind effect LAVs and Dropships get when moving fast while sprinting.
The no fall damage -or lesser- is something I am considering as a good idea actually.
If you drop an any from the top of the Empire State Building, it will survive. Scouts technically hit the ground with less force than Medium and Heavy Frames, so perhaps they should take less damage?
Everything else... Unreal Tournament is that way ------> |
Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
941
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:10:00 -
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8213 wrote:Why, you ask? Because some kid spraying at a Scout can land a lucky 8 bullets and destroy a Scout. So, this month Scouts need to be fixed, because we sure as heck know CCP isn't going to fix anything that lowers the skill gap in this game. So, fix the Scouts. because they went from usable (hard more) to unusable. Especially now that they have to invest in Dampeners instead of HP, because the Scanner and hit detection/aim assist have offically pushed Scouts off the cliff. you're welcome
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed. |
Tectonic Fusion
536
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:10:00 -
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They should run at 9 instead of 7.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
631
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:11:00 -
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8213 wrote:Everything else... Unreal Tournament is that way ------>
Hence the "ridiculous buff". |
Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:13:00 -
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I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4
edit:
Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers
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8213
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:15:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4 edit: Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers
*cough* Caldari Scout doesn't exist *cough* |
8213
The Neutral Zone
658
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:22:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:8213 wrote:Why, you ask? Because some kid spraying at a Scout can land a lucky 8 bullets and destroy a Scout. So, this month Scouts need to be fixed, because we sure as heck know CCP isn't going to fix anything that lowers the skill gap in this game. So, fix the Scouts. because they went from usable (hard more) to unusable. Especially now that they have to invest in Dampeners instead of HP, because the Scanner and hit detection/aim assist have offically pushed Scouts off the cliff. you're welcome I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
I'm having the best Scout games of my life since 1.6. But at the same time, I'm dying more as well. I get gunned down 90m+ from Miltia ARs and up all the time. I'll admit, that I should have spec'd into Gallente Scout, but who knew this change was coming? I can adapt to change, but I can't adapt to zero skill spraying. I got against kids that literally spin in a circle spraying because they know aim assist will take care of the actual skill for them.
I have to put on 2 enhanced Dampeners, and run a Scanner just to be effective to the point where its worth my time to be playing the game via that setup. 81 CPU / 27 PG is used up on my suit just so I can factor in playing against the latest changes.
Solo Scout Shotgunning isn't fun anymore, because even if you do well; you've put to much stress into doing it. |
Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
941
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:35:00 -
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8213 wrote:Protocake JR wrote:8213 wrote:Why, you ask? Because some kid spraying at a Scout can land a lucky 8 bullets and destroy a Scout. So, this month Scouts need to be fixed, because we sure as heck know CCP isn't going to fix anything that lowers the skill gap in this game. So, fix the Scouts. because they went from usable (hard more) to unusable. Especially now that they have to invest in Dampeners instead of HP, because the Scanner and hit detection/aim assist have offically pushed Scouts off the cliff. you're welcome I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed. I'm having the best Scout games of my life since 1.6. But at the same time, I'm dying more as well. I get gunned down 90m+ from Miltia ARs and up all the time. I'll admit, that I should have spec'd into Gallente Scout, but who knew this change was coming? I can adapt to change, but I can't adapt to zero skill spraying. I got against kids that literally spin in a circle spraying because they know aim assist will take care of the actual skill for them. I have to put on 2 enhanced Dampeners, and run a Scanner just to be effective to the point where its worth my time to be playing the game via that setup. 81 CPU / 27 PG is used up on my suit just so I can factor in playing against the latest changes. Solo Scout Shotgunning isn't fun anymore, because even if you do well; you've put to much stress into doing it.
Yeah, i've just started doing the shotgun+scout thing today. So maybe i'm not as burnt out from it yet. And I definitely agree about the lower survivability. It's much lower than my proto'ed Amarr Assault, but I suppose that's the price of being able to one shot people up close.
So i'm guessing you specced into the minmatar light suit? I'm not quite sure what to tell you. You should try experimenting with health and damage mods. Until CCP improves their stealth/spotting mechanics, running dampeners is worthless.
Situational Awareness/ picking your fights > CCP's stealth mechanics |
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Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
941
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:37:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4 edit: Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers
It was actually a pretty bloody battle, either team could have been cloned. We lost due to failure to hold the objective (domination). |
Gunmouse
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
121
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:39:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4 edit: Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers
Speak for yourself. Went 20-1 in my Gal scout in my last PC vrs RS. My only death was a teammates core nade. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
279
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:44:00 -
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Are you some kid?
I don't fight for the Amarr. I fight with them.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
797
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:58:00 -
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8213 wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:I wouldn't mind getting a ridiculous buff to be OP for a while. How about 15 m/s movement speed and 25 m/s sprint speed? Also, we jump 10m high and have no fall damage. Edit: I also want the wind effect LAVs and Dropships get when moving fast while sprinting. The no fall damage -or lesser- is something I am considering as a good idea actually. If you drop an any from the top of the Empire State Building, it will survive. Scouts technically hit the ground with less force than Medium and Heavy Frames, so perhaps they should take less damage? Everything else... Unreal Tournament is that way ------> Physics don't really work that way. You are still going to fall as fast as anyone else, and your smaller body means it takes less kinetic energy to break it. Just because a brick is smaller and lighter than a cinderblock doesn't mean it doesn't break when you drop it 30m onto concrete like a cinderblock would. But falling from really high up isn't even dangerous in Dust anyway, because we have Inertia Dampeners. Reduced falling damage would be a way to set light frames apart though and give them something only they can have.might frames need something that they can do, but nobody else can.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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Oswald Rehnquist
533
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:04:00 -
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Gunmouse wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4 edit: Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers Speak for yourself. Went 20-1 in my Gal scout in my last PC vrs RS. My only death was a teammates core nade.
Your kdr ratio is not 20, we all have good games or good games streaks, I've even beaten those numbers and have taken pics as well, but they not the norm. So lets not play dumb.
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8213
The Neutral Zone
662
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:07:00 -
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Gunmouse wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4 edit: Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers Speak for yourself. Went 20-1 in my Gal scout in my last PC vrs RS. My only death was a teammates core nade.
Comparing P/C and Pub is like comparing MLG and Online. P/C has the phycological contract of don't mess around, we are hear to win
Pubs is a bunch of randoms thrown together, all with different ideas of how they spend their time in the game. some take it seriously, others f*ck around, others run around around with Plasma Cannons trying to troll, all the while going 3/30, lol.
Factoring in the mindset of 16 differnt people when they all have different attitudes about the match can lead to a lot more bullsh*t deaths. In P/C, you die (in theory) because you got out played. In pub, so many random factors come into play.
Talk to any MLG player. *ahem* MLG is harder than public matches.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
636
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:10:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Physics don't really work that way. You are still going to fall as fast as anyone else, and your smaller body means it takes less kinetic energy to break it. Just because a brick is smaller and lighter than a cinderblock doesn't mean it doesn't break when you drop it 30m onto concrete like a cinderblock would.
However, because we have a smaller body, the force of the impact will be less. Also, size != structural integrity. As the scout was designed for mobility, it would most likely come with features to enhance its ability to traverse normally difficult terrain such as the ability to dissipate the force of a fall. |
8213
The Neutral Zone
663
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:20:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:8213 wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:I wouldn't mind getting a ridiculous buff to be OP for a while. How about 15 m/s movement speed and 25 m/s sprint speed? Also, we jump 10m high and have no fall damage. Edit: I also want the wind effect LAVs and Dropships get when moving fast while sprinting. The no fall damage -or lesser- is something I am considering as a good idea actually. If you drop an any from the top of the Empire State Building, it will survive. Scouts technically hit the ground with less force than Medium and Heavy Frames, so perhaps they should take less damage? Everything else... Unreal Tournament is that way ------> Physics don't really work that way. You are still going to fall as fast as anyone else, and your smaller body means it takes less kinetic energy to break it. Just because a brick is smaller and lighter than a cinderblock doesn't mean it doesn't break when you drop it 30m onto concrete like a cinderblock would. But falling from really high up isn't even dangerous in Dust anyway, because we have Inertia Dampeners. Reduced falling damage would be a way to set light frames apart though and give them something only they can have.might frames need something that they can do, but nobody else can.
WRONG! Physics do work that way! F=MA (Force = Mass x Acceleration)
If you have less mass (Scout suit) you have less Force(Impact) if the Acceleration is constant(gravity). This is why throwing an ant off the Empire state Building can't kill the ant. Because F=.00000000001g x 9.81m^2 = NOT ENOUGH FORCE TO KILL THE ANT!
But this is a fictional video game, so we can stretch it a little. Less fall damage for Scouts, maybe on a percentage scale. Its not fair that a Heavy can fall out of the MCC and survive, but a scout can't!
Science wins again! Yay for Issac Newton! Did you know that 1Kg x 1m^2 equal one Newton? To have a unit of measurement named after you must be something neat |
Oswald Rehnquist
536
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:22:00 -
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8213 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:8213 wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:I wouldn't mind getting a ridiculous buff to be OP for a while. How about 15 m/s movement speed and 25 m/s sprint speed? Also, we jump 10m high and have no fall damage. Edit: I also want the wind effect LAVs and Dropships get when moving fast while sprinting. The no fall damage -or lesser- is something I am considering as a good idea actually. If you drop an any from the top of the Empire State Building, it will survive. Scouts technically hit the ground with less force than Medium and Heavy Frames, so perhaps they should take less damage? Everything else... Unreal Tournament is that way ------> Physics don't really work that way. You are still going to fall as fast as anyone else, and your smaller body means it takes less kinetic energy to break it. Just because a brick is smaller and lighter than a cinderblock doesn't mean it doesn't break when you drop it 30m onto concrete like a cinderblock would. But falling from really high up isn't even dangerous in Dust anyway, because we have Inertia Dampeners. Reduced falling damage would be a way to set light frames apart though and give them something only they can have.might frames need something that they can do, but nobody else can. WRONG! Physics do work that way! F=MA (Force = Mass x Acceleration) If you have less mass (Scout suit) you have less Force(Impact) if the Acceleration is constant(gravity). This is why throwing an any off the Empire state Building can't kill the ant. Because F=.00000000001g x 9.81m^2 = NOT ENOUGH FORCE TO KILL THE ANT! But this is a fictional video game, so we can stretch it a little. Less fall damage for scouts, maybe on a percentage scale. Its not fair that a Heavy can fall out of the MCC and survive, but a scout can't! Science wins again! Yay for Issac Newton! Did you know that 1Kg x 1m^2 equal one Newton? To have a unti of measurement named after you must be something neat
I think the easiest way to explain it would be to try jumping off of a 10 foot ledge, then try it while holding 50 lbs weights, and see what hurts more
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8213
The Neutral Zone
663
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:23:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:8213 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:8213 wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:I wouldn't mind getting a ridiculous buff to be OP for a while. How about 15 m/s movement speed and 25 m/s sprint speed? Also, we jump 10m high and have no fall damage. Edit: I also want the wind effect LAVs and Dropships get when moving fast while sprinting. The no fall damage -or lesser- is something I am considering as a good idea actually. If you drop an any from the top of the Empire State Building, it will survive. Scouts technically hit the ground with less force than Medium and Heavy Frames, so perhaps they should take less damage? Everything else... Unreal Tournament is that way ------> Physics don't really work that way. You are still going to fall as fast as anyone else, and your smaller body means it takes less kinetic energy to break it. Just because a brick is smaller and lighter than a cinderblock doesn't mean it doesn't break when you drop it 30m onto concrete like a cinderblock would. But falling from really high up isn't even dangerous in Dust anyway, because we have Inertia Dampeners. Reduced falling damage would be a way to set light frames apart though and give them something only they can have.might frames need something that they can do, but nobody else can. WRONG! Physics do work that way! F=MA (Force = Mass x Acceleration) If you have less mass (Scout suit) you have less Force(Impact) if the Acceleration is constant(gravity). This is why throwing an any off the Empire state Building can't kill the ant. Because F=.00000000001g x 9.81m^2 = NOT ENOUGH FORCE TO KILL THE ANT! But this is a fictional video game, so we can stretch it a little. Less fall damage for scouts, maybe on a percentage scale. Its not fair that a Heavy can fall out of the MCC and survive, but a scout can't! Science wins again! Yay for Issac Newton! Did you know that 1Kg x 1m^2 equal one Newton? To have a unti of measurement named after you must be something neat I think the easiest way to explain it would be to try jumping off of a 10 foot ledge, then try it while holding 50 lbs weights, and see what hurts more
... GENIUS! brb with my results
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Gunmouse
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
129
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:57:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Gunmouse wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4 edit: Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers Speak for yourself. Went 20-1 in my Gal scout in my last PC vrs RS. My only death was a teammates core nade. Your kdr ratio is not 20, we all have good games or good games streaks, I've even beaten those numbers and have taken pics as well, but they not the norm. So lets not play dumb. Did i say my kdr is 20? I don't care about kdr and if you do you're a dork. When I wanna do good, I do good. I rarely try and still outperform you on your best days. We're talking PC here, not a freaking pub match.... |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2088
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:58:00 -
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I miss 1.3
You could jump around people like a circus act and pump them full of lead.
No.
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VAHZZ
The dyst0pian Corporation
163
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:59:00 -
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we scouts do needs...the buuuuuff
The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity!
i should make an Everything Nixon Corp
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crazy space 1
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
1977
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Posted - 2013.11.12 04:01:00 -
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why do scouts get less slots than assault
I'm serious what was the mind set? |
Oswald Rehnquist
537
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Posted - 2013.11.12 04:17:00 -
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Gunmouse wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Gunmouse wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4 edit: Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers Speak for yourself. Went 20-1 in my Gal scout in my last PC vrs RS. My only death was a teammates core nade. Your kdr ratio is not 20, we all have good games or good games streaks, I've even beaten those numbers and have taken pics as well, but they not the norm. So lets not play dumb. Did i say my kdr is 20? I don't care about kdr and if you do you're a dork. When I wanna do good, I do good. I rarely try and still outperform you on your best days. We're talking PC here, not a freaking pub match....
If this was the case then why was stating your one match of 20-1 relevant to the discussion of whether scouts needing a buff or not.
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Tectonic Fusion
539
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Posted - 2013.11.12 04:20:00 -
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8213 wrote:Protocake JR wrote:8213 wrote:Why, you ask? Because some kid spraying at a Scout can land a lucky 8 bullets and destroy a Scout. So, this month Scouts need to be fixed, because we sure as heck know CCP isn't going to fix anything that lowers the skill gap in this game. So, fix the Scouts. because they went from usable (hard more) to unusable. Especially now that they have to invest in Dampeners instead of HP, because the Scanner and hit detection/aim assist have offically pushed Scouts off the cliff. you're welcome I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed. I'm having the best Scout games of my life since 1.6. But at the same time, I'm dying more as well. I get gunned down 90m+ from Miltia ARs and up all the time. I'll admit, that I should have spec'd into Gallente Scout, but who knew this change was coming? I can adapt to change, but I can't adapt to zero skill spraying. I got against kids that literally spin in a circle spraying because they know aim assist will take care of the actual skill for them. I have to put on 2 enhanced Dampeners, and run a Scanner just to be effective to the point where its worth my time to be playing the game via that setup. 81 CPU / 27 PG is used up on my suit just so I can factor in playing against the latest changes. Solo Scout Shotgunning isn't fun anymore, because even if you do well; you've put to much stress into doing it. Not really. I just use a 483 EHP 'Dragonfly' Scout with a K5 Specialist Shotgun, and it's amazing, and way better than my 600 EHP 'Raven suit.
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Gunmouse
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
131
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Posted - 2013.11.12 04:21:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4 edit: Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers Becasue of what you said here... I gave you an example of a scout putting up high number in a PC MATCH (not an lolpubmatch) against a upper tier PC corp, making what you responded with in that post bogus. Unless you're calling RedStars PC team "retards" and classify going 20-1 as not "hitting those numbers" |
Oswald Rehnquist
537
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Posted - 2013.11.12 04:42:00 -
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Gunmouse wrote: Becasue of what you said here... I gave you an example of a scout putting up high number in a PC MATCH (not an lolpubmatch) against a upper tier PC corp, making what you responded with in that post bogus. Unless you're calling RedStars PC team "retards" and classify going 20-1 as not "hitting those numbers"
So again by this logic, scouts do not need anything besides a slight cpu/pg increase because you can run a match like that?
Listing a good match does not somehow negate whether the scout needs a buff or not, overall relative performance and utility does. Yet listing a 26/4 or 20/1 match somehow negates any overarching trends.
By the very same logic if someone uses the laser rifle user goes 20/1 and another person uses ar goes 20/1, are you going to tell me that the weapons are well balanced and have their own secured utility based on this alone?
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4447
Pure Innocence. EoN.
814
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Posted - 2013.11.12 04:44:00 -
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8213 wrote:Why, you ask? Because some kid spraying at a Scout can land a lucky 8 bullets and destroy a Scout. So, this month Scouts need to be fixed, because we sure as heck know CCP isn't going to fix anything that lowers the skill gap in this game. So, fix the Scouts. because they went from usable (hard more) to unusable. Especially now that they have to invest in Dampeners instead of HP, because the Scanner and hit detection/aim assist have offically pushed Scouts off the cliff. you're welcome
shouldn't scouts be sniping... |
Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2788
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Posted - 2013.11.12 04:49:00 -
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4447 wrote: shouldn't scouts be sniping...
Scout is literally the worst suit to snipe in
A real sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a real sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield.
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Oswald Rehnquist
537
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Posted - 2013.11.12 04:51:00 -
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4447 wrote:
shouldn't scouts be sniping...
Its easier to snipe when you can eat a counter snipe, also damage mods (thus cpu/pg) are vastly important, thus due to these weaknesses most scout snipers are rolling snipers and not sitting/perched snipers.
The main advantage to scout sniping is being able to avoid cqc weapons sneaking up on you, most people physically spot snipers as most are out of range of active scanners anyways. But the relative disadvantages outweigh the advantages.
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Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
40
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Posted - 2013.11.12 05:07:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:4447 wrote: shouldn't scouts be sniping...
Scout is literally the worst suit to snipe in
No you are wrong. If you constantly move after shots scouts are the best. My fit runs damage mods, scan damps and scan enhancers.
Unless you physically see me you won't find me. And even if you find me, unless you are already in a sniper fit by the time you change to one i'm gone. |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
2108
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Posted - 2013.11.12 09:36:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I wouldn't mind getting a ridiculous buff to be OP for a while. How about 15 m/s movement speed and 25 m/s sprint speed? Also, we jump 10m high and have no fall damage. Edit: I also want the wind effect LAVs and Dropships get when moving fast while sprinting.
i hope you're kidding. Yeah, you have to be.
Though I'm all in favor of a speed buff for scouts. It's mandatory i'd even say. That and lower some more their scan profile OR fix the damn scanners that are ridiculously gamebreaking at the moment.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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8213 wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I"m actually typing up what I think to be the solution as we speak, will be posting it up tonight, and will be needing help to keep it active, only have the caldari and gallente scout solid though, but I finished all 4 edit: Protocake JR wrote:
I just went 28-6 in an advanced gallente light frame suit and a standard breach shotgun + toxin sub machine gun. The only thing lights/scouts need is better CPU/PG and more speed.
then you played against retards because most competitive matches don't have people hitting those numbers *cough* Caldari Scout doesn't exist *cough*
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:57:00 -
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It is good that this is happening and that the scout is the new fotm. We need all the data we can get on the scout suits so they can tweak the new scout suits they are working on. I don't see to many other reasons to give the out like candy. It is going to be very interesting and fun too.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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