Again, its not so much worrying about the initial release of the PS4, its about the development lead time to actually port it over. Its not something that they can hotfix in a month.

Im sure that many people would feel a lot easier if CCP just said "We are aware of what is needed to port Dust over to the PS4 and have a team ready to begin that project once we deem it necessary for the health of the game. At this current time, we feel that a port at the release of the PS4 would be more detrimental to the community than beneficial. Rest assured, once that changes, we will let you know about the timeline for the port well ahead of time"

Sorry if this was already mentioned but if you watched the whole thing you would also have seen the keynote. The keynote speaker also mentioned that it will "eventually" come to more platforms. But moving from ps3 to ps4 isn't as simple as a flip of a switch. Plus it would "segregate" the player base because the two platforms can't play together.

I don't blame them. Dust won't gain any new revenue from a ps4 title in the near future. The 500 extra players they would get won't mean anything. Besides then they have to compete with cod and bf4.

They are better off "perfecting the core" and getting it right on ps3. There will be a whole "new" game on ps4 for them to launch.

How can they play together? There are limits on what each system can do. If the tech won't allow 64 player battles on ps3 but it's on ps4. How could those two games coexist? They can't.

The ps3 would be the weak link and would hold back the ps4 version.

This topic has been raging since last year.

The official answer of "focused on the PS3" has to do with timing. They won't ever say this, but:

They are trying to grab recruits from the legions of people who don't upgrade to the PS4 in the first year. Most of the major houses are focusing new development on the PS4, which is good for Sony, but not good for companies that don't have EA's advertising budget.

Then, once the PS4 is a well-established platform, with say 20M users, CCP can very quickly change their development path to support it. Most of the assets are portable and the game is built in an engine that supports both platforms.

So, to summarize- CCP isn't dissing the PS4. They're quietly letting people know that they can spend a lot less money by sticking with the PS3 (and buying Aurum) and still enjoy Dust until the preponderance of users makes it cost-effective to switch.

Snaps fingers> YOU GO GURL!

someone asked about CCP's plans for PS4 and the guy mentioned that there are 80M PS3's out there so their "laser focus" is on the ps3. Seriously.....CCP has no plans or intentions on converting to the PS4.

That worries me because it touches on the common sense of the people who are building this game. There are 80M PS3's out there because the PS4 has not yet been released. The PS4 is debuting at only $399...that is less than new model cellphones when they hit the market. Why does CCP think that people won't buy the PS4? How many people still play on their PS2's??

The PS3 is going to be a dead system in a matter of months and CCP has a few years plan on it? That worries me because how do they not see that pushing for the PS3 is a fail idea? As much as I enjoy dust.....no way will I be unhooking my PS4 and then hooking up my PS3 for a pc match or to cap each week. I won't be getting the PS4 at launch but it won't be too long after that. I'm not going to be going through that trouble of switching systems just to log onto dust. I already have too much congestion with my pc, ps3, Hauppauge, cell phone charger, internet router, etc. I have to use two extension cords......something will give.

someone asked about CCP's plans for PS4 and the guy mentioned that there are 80M PS3's out there so their "laser focus" is on the ps3. Seriously.....CCP has no plans or intentions on converting to the PS4.

That worries me because it touches on the common sense of the people who are building this game. There are 80M PS3's out there because the PS4 has not yet been released. The PS4 is debuting at only $399...that is less than new model cellphones when they hit the market. Why does CCP think that people won't buy the PS4? How many people still play on their PS2's??

The PS3 is going to be a dead system in a matter of months and CCP has a few years plan on it? That worries me because how do they not see that pushing for the PS3 is a fail idea? As much as I enjoy dust.....no way will I be unhooking my PS4 and then hooking up my PS3 for a pc match or to cap each week. I won't be getting the PS4 at launch but it won't be too long after that. I'm not going to be going through that trouble of switching systems just to log onto dust. I already have too much congestion with my pc, ps3, Hauppauge, cell phone charger, internet router, etc. I have to use two extension cords......something will give.

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1 cup flour

1 teaspoon salt

-+ teaspoon baking soda

-+ cup creamy peanut butter

-+ cup butter, melted

-+ cup brown sugar

1 large egg

1 teaspoon vanilla

White sugar for rolling

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gaikai is a cloud based gaming company that will let ps4 play ps3 games.

the ps2 market thrived for years after the ps3 release... research it.

also, I don't know the numbers, but there is a large group of people (myself included) who don't buy a next gen system the moment it drops, due to many reasons; but the biggest ones are usually money issues, cautious about potential bugs or dev support of new product, and intrest in games still coming out exclusive to the previous generation (like dark souls 2 for this gen)

not to mention the fact that the ps4 hasn't many launch titles to get excited about, with bigger named games not being released till 2014.

the ps3 will still be widely used through at least 2015 and even many gamers who buy next gen will still hold on to their ps3.

I'm sure ccp will move to ps4 sooner than you think, but theres no reason for them to prematurely announce that cross over.

LOL ! just got up, thanks for that

Now on the matter of PS4. ( Btw, anything i say here is pure speculation and personal opinion. We never had any info about that as CPM even though i asked a few times )

I wont ever get out of my head the fact that developing dust on PS3 was a major mistake at first. Considering how bitchy it is to develop on it, and ESPECIALLY when it is your first console game as a dev studio. Also, end of life etc...

Now, i dont think it's even a possibility to start porting the game to PS4 now for the sole reason that it would cost a lost and probably kill the game in the mean time considering the fixes the game needs vs coding time needed to port the game vs total manpower.

Problem is, if you need money to make the game better, and go PS4. Well, you'll need to have people playing. And over the coming years, less and less players will stick with PS3. Especially FPS players ! So less and less potential customers. So less and less money to invest in upgrading the game.

What i'd love to though for near future is for CCP to at least work with Gaikai to make the current game available to be played on PS4. Would be a way to benefit from the tiny line up for PS4 and allow people to carry on playing while changing their system. Though i have no idea how time consuming it would be to do so.

I don't know why they can't just say they are going to port Dust to the PS4 some day. I get it, there's no date, but surely someone at CCP has thought about the PS4 conversion.

They have.......watch the keynote......

Lol no. If there is one thing this game does not need its the additional input delay that Gaikai comes with.

As much as I enjoy dust.....no way will I be unhooking my PS4 and then hooking up my PS3 for a pc match or to cap each week.

If you think Dust 514 will die with the PS 4 then quit logging in, give away your isk and stop logging in to the forums.

The question I have is why the hell can't i play it on the PS3 and PS4 if it so easy to part?

Why make me pick between them(PS3&4) if i choose to upgrade and only want one plugin my wall?

Can't we/CCP/Dust have a much bigger player base if we don't need to choose.