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True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4057	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:52:00 - [1] - Quote This thread is not about Empire Semantics and generalisations.... But why do you consider your character to be a "Good Guy" in New Eden, or if you are the opposite, why you consider your character to be a "Bad Guy" . So which one are you? "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Canari Elphus Ancient Exiles 879	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:56:00 - [2] - Quote "good, bad, Im the guy with the gun" Proud Sponsor of the United Lamp Post Defense Fund. "Protecting Our Skies For A Better Tomorrow" ¯¯¯¦¬¯`GÇó.__Gÿ+
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 111	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:01:00 - [3] - Quote I consider Minmatar as good with many bad decisions. We have a reason that we're "angry and violent". Being enslaved is not fun. Families were ripped apart because of it and no trust between tribes. I also dislike how a lot of people assume we're some blood thirsty savages that flip out about everything. If anything our Sanmatar is just a douchebag, but eh I'm just a young merc and I prefer to keep my mouth closed about politics.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 998	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:05:00 - [4] - Quote I'm Bad guy who sometimes makes good decisions, but at the end of the day i'm all about "F*ck you, got mine" For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew?
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 412	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:08:00 - [5] - Quote Neural leaning towards good. I'm just a logi. I have no ties or loyalties to any faction, race, or corp. All I want to do is roam the battlefields and rep, revive, supply, and assist those that aren't shooting at me. No real reason. Just a way to kill time with my immortal life. Why? That's a good question. Why?
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 276	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:11:00 - [6] - Quote I would see myself as the bad guy to some. I have my own reasons they're not tied to fw. I don't fight for the Amarr. I fight *with* them.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7016	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:20:00 - [7] - Quote Most of the people I kill just respawn anyways. I fight against capitalistic corporatism and slavery. I love the idea of meritocracy more than democracy, but profit motive should never be more important than the national/public good in government. I don't support slavery, no matter what religious nonsense is used to justify it. Regarding mortals that I do murder, sometimes there are necessary casualties for the cause of freedom. I generally try to be a nice guy, and try to help people. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1797	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:24:00 - [8] - Quote I'm a cynical good guy. Bottom line, Michael Arck will extend a hand to his corpmates and teammates. Mike doesn't like underhand dealings and prefers being transparent in his interactions with our mercernaries. Mike is about what's right and doing it the right way with an understanding that some extremities must be employed at times to get the job done. But those extremities are only done against his own enemies and that of the State. The Caldari way has saved Michael's life. For that he will die and fight for their true freedom.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4058	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:26:00 - [9] - Quote Interesting answers..... I would consider True as a Good Guy.... but I don't like Good guys. I like BAD GUYS EVIL GUYS SO EVIL! They make for better characters anyway.... neutral characters are also very entertaining, can be noble sometimes....and utter coward other times. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Sage E'LOS 3	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:28:00 - [10] - Quote "There is a fight going on inside all of us. It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - He is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The one who wins - is the one you feed." - Ancient Human Legend I understand that i am not a perfect immortal, I have made mistakes and i have had a hand in everything that has happened to me, good and bad. But, I am a man that strives for peace - and I use that ancient legend to determine my inner thoughts and strive to keep them clean. A clear answer to your question however, I will say - I am a man that tries to be good. *Always pass on what you have learned*

Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2683	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:31:00 - [11] - Quote I consider myself to be Sgt Kirk The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1782	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:39:00 - [12] - Quote I try to share hard won knowledge about the immortal soldier business. I try to analyze instead of just regurgitating the current rhetoric. I try to win without absolutely crushing the spirits of the rookies because a larger community is a healthier community. I consider myself a good guy. AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1201	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:41:00 - [13] - Quote I would have to say that I am a good guy. I believe that all people have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn't stop someone else from doing what they want. I don't follow religious doctrines or force my views on others. The rights of the individual is the most important thing we have and that freedom should never be changed or infringed. The ability for one to choose their own destiny is paramount and any entity that tries to take that right is away should be destroyed. Tolerance is a virtue that free peoples enjoy and tyrants do not understand. I fight the good fight, I fight for those who cannot, I fight for the individual and their right to do as they please. I am not for anarchy or mob rule but I do believe in the rule of law, as long as that law preserves the individual. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10094	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:43:00 - [14] - Quote My guy is somewhat lost trying to get things done to excuse yesterday and promise tomorrow. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Laser Rifle =// Unlocked
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4059	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:44:00 - [15] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: I would have to say that I am a good guy. I believe that all people have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn't stop someone else from doing what they want. I don't follow religious doctrines or force my views on others. The rights of the individual is the most important thing we have and that freedom should never be changed or infringed. The ability for one to choose their own destiny is paramount and any entity that tries to take that right is away should be destroyed. Tolerance is a virtue that free peoples enjoy and tyrants do not understand. I fight the good fight, I fight for those who cannot, I fight for the individual and their right to do as they please. I am not for anarchy or mob rule but I do believe in the rule of law, as long as that law preserves the individual. As do I.... we could have been brothers if it weren't for our blood. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 1001	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:45:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Interesting answers..... I would consider True as a Good Guy.... but I don't like Good guys. I like BAD GUYS EVIL GUYS SO EVIL! They make for better characters anyway.... neutral characters are also very entertaining, can be noble sometimes....and utter coward other times. Whenever i think of neutral characters always think of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06kpn2C3Fk ^futurama fans will enjoy. For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew?
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 120	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:55:00 - [17] - Quote I would have to say i am chaotic good - after all i am insane right? no goody goody or big and bad..but insane..oh glorious insane...not 514 but still insane - with a touch of food poisoning The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! i should make an Everything Nixon Corp
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1201	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:11:00 - [18] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: True Adamance wrote: Interesting answers..... I would consider True as a Good Guy.... but I don't like Good guys. I like BAD GUYS EVIL GUYS SO EVIL! They make for better characters anyway.... neutral characters are also very entertaining, can be noble sometimes....and utter coward other times. Whenever i think of neutral characters always think of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06kpn2C3Fk ^futurama fans will enjoy. I endorse this message and encourage everyone to watch more Futurama. Bender: I've had it up to here with this place. I'm off to the Head Museum to hang out with classy heads like me who appreciate the finer things: poetry, philosophy, hats. So long, coffin stuffers!... Uh, could one of you coffin stuffers please carry me? Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 284	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:13:00 - [19] - Quote My corp members have deemed me CEO Nixon...so take that morality alignment however you choose. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2396	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:17:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: This thread is not about Empire Semantics and generalisations.... But why do you consider your character to be a "Good Guy" in New Eden, or if you are the opposite, why you consider your character to be a "Bad Guy" . So which one are you? I think Amarr ppl are the Bad guys. Me being a Real life atheist i really usually dont get involved in religious stuff.MORE reason to Role play as an Amarr Crusader LOL. If i fin out some other race is more ''evil'' than the amarr, hmm... I like being the villain... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4065	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:24:00 - [21] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: This thread is not about Empire Semantics and generalisations.... But why do you consider your character to be a "Good Guy" in New Eden, or if you are the opposite, why you consider your character to be a "Bad Guy" . So which one are you? I think Amarr ppl are the Bad guys. Me being a Real life atheist i really usually dont get involved in religious stuff.MORE reason to Role play as an Amarr Crusader LOL. If i fin out some other race is more ''evil'' than the amarr, hmm... I like being the villain... You cant represent those factions....yet.... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Oswald Rehnquist 519	Posted - 2013.11.11 05:09:00 - [22] - Quote Throughout history (real history) we tend to label peeps as good or evil but that is mainly to frame a picture to label a large group as above or below average decency to be able to justify giving them more or less power. Individuals may be evil/good but large groups of people are just hierarchies operating under certain laws and morals. All groups have leaders and opposition occurs when these diverging hierarchies compete to extend their law/morals over other people which is akin to competing for expanding the clan. There are defensive maneuvers hierarchies can take to prevent people from being siphon off and there are offensive moves hierarchies can make to collect more individuals. Essentially its just power play through framing. So when it comes to the 4 empires of New Eden, none, but the characteristics of the Gallente perfectly represent the aspects of society that I lothe. The Amarr / Min literally is represented as the Roman v Germanic barbarians conflicts, which held a more order vs chaos dichotomy. The Gallente / Caldari conflict is modern politics vs turn of the century politics, with the Caldari representing 18 to early 20th century views (which held a more hands off approach of governing, stronger work ethnic, less protection, community>individual mindset) and the Gallente representing late 20-21 century views (which values more government centralization, individualism, hedonism, etc). The last thing to remember is in real life, its the losers of wars are get universally labeled as evil (especially within the last 2 centuries). This is not just a stroke of coincidence but just as aspect of the winners being able to frame transactions however they see fit. Below 28 dB
Minako Nakajima Vortex State Empire Dark Taboo 28	Posted - 2013.11.11 05:42:00 - [23] - Quote Anti Hero "The world we've come to love can often seem to collapse around us." // Terminally Insane
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4069	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:44:00 - [24] - Quote Minako Nakajima wrote: Anti Hero Like Roland Deschain of Gilead....what an Anti hero he was. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 638	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:54:00 - [25] - Quote Galente are the true 'good guy'. But they are too two dimmensional cardboard 'democracy' that would have long collapsed in the real world, let alone a futuristic king of the hill universe. I like Caldari because they are the most realistic representation of what future states would be like - aggressive transnational corporations bound by shifting alliances. All other races are just silly cartoons that could never have existed in a real sci-fi universe.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1205	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:04:00 - [26] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Galente are the true 'good guy'. But they are too two dimmensional cardboard 'democracy' that would have long collapsed in the real world, let alone a futuristic king of the hill universe. I like Caldari because they are the most realistic representation of what future states would be like - aggressive transnational corporations bound by shifting alliances. All other races are just silly cartoons that could never have existed in a real sci-fi universe. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1484620#post1484620 Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4070	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:05:00 - [27] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Galente are the true 'good guy'. But they are too two dimmensional cardboard 'democracy' that would have long collapsed in the real world, let alone a futuristic king of the hill universe. I like Caldari because they are the most realistic representation of what future states would be like - aggressive transnational corporations bound by shifting alliances. All other races are just silly cartoons that could never have existed in a real sci-fi universe. See that's where I disagree but I appreciate your opinion and input. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 638	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:09:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Galente are the true 'good guy'. But they are too two dimmensional cardboard 'democracy' that would have long collapsed in the real world, let alone a futuristic king of the hill universe. I like Caldari because they are the most realistic representation of what future states would be like - aggressive transnational corporations bound by shifting alliances. All other races are just silly cartoons that could never have existed in a real sci-fi universe. See that's where I disagree but I appreciate your opinion and input. Where do you think is the flaw in that?
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1205	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:13:00 - [29] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: True Adamance wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Galente are the true 'good guy'. But they are too two dimmensional cardboard 'democracy' that would have long collapsed in the real world, let alone a futuristic king of the hill universe. I like Caldari because they are the most realistic representation of what future states would be like - aggressive transnational corporations bound by shifting alliances. All other races are just silly cartoons that could never have existed in a real sci-fi universe. See that's where I disagree but I appreciate your opinion and input. Where do you think is the flaw in that? Gal = USA Cal = Russia Amarr = China Min = Middle East Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 584	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:17:00 - [30] - Quote The impression that there are "Good guys" and "Bad guys" or an ultimate good an evil in EVE is false entirely. Everything is a shade of grey, every empire has their good sides, and their bad sides. Gallente - The only "true democracy", but very corrupt and often contradict their own ideals and laws for "security" Caldari - Corporate meritocracy. Very xenophobic and distrusting of outsiders, but has New Eden's biggest economy and one of the strongest navies when compared to size. Minmatar - Violent and impulsive, often go to unreasonable lengths to make "justice" happen(battle of Colelie prime example). However, they are the most resilient and adaptive of all the empires. Amarr - Religious theocracy, promotes slavery. However, slavery is not as bad as you might assume, and the Amarr have the lowest crime rates and corruption in all of New Eden, and sport the largest armies and navies. Nothing is black and white in the New Eden universe. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier



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