Also when the rail rifle and combat rifle come out i think all assault should get the bonus for their weapon technology

A lot of people are complaining about how logis are supposedly better than assaults, so I thought I would share my experience to the contrary.
I specialized into Amarr logi level 5, but started specializing into Amarr assault because of the laser bonus (I use scrambler rifles). I just unlocked the advanced assault one yesterday. Given the choice between similar combat-oriented fittings, I would choose to use to the assault. The speed and stamina is a major advantage, I no longer have to worry about being so slow or constantly running out stamina while trying to run to somewhere. The logi has 1 more low slot than the assault allowing it to get potentially higher HP, but the assault has 60 more base shields that's almost like having a free built-in complex shield extender.

When assaulting, I prefer Amarr assault to Amarr logi.

Its the higher CPU and PG as well for Logi and the Gallente Logi is the one people say is the op one

So basically you're saying that your preferred method of playing is killing with an SCR and that obviously the Amarr Assault is key to that weapon...

...duh?

The Amarr Assault is THE ONLY ASSAULT SUIT that has something LOGIS CANT DO, there by , useful.
U use laser weapons u go Amarr Asssault for MAXIMUM efficiency, PERIOD. This is NOT tthe assault being better,nor EQUAL to the Logi version,because its not....Logi amarr is STILL better than the Assault with 1 more low slot, 2 more Equip slots, more CPU/PG in exchange for 50 stamina,3shield regen per sec and some speed... >..>

Does not apply to Cal assaul,Min assault and Gal assault.
LEts see how many people say:''yeah i have Gallente Logi proto,but since im assaulting and using a HYBRID WEAPON im going Gallente assault.''

PLEASE.

Your specific case doesnt not apply , Logis are still broken...

Actually for he most part I just use the assault variant of the SCR, so the heat buildup isn't an issue most of the time.

I went into ScR pistols and SMGs in preparation of a logi-wide sidearm restriction that (thankfully) never came. Been dumping SP into Minmatar assault on my main and should have my Mk.0 before Thanksgiving. Tried it on a 15m SP alt, and it's way different than my logi and better in certain areas. Extra sidearm clip size opens some more options like starting ambushes with swarm launchers and battle sniping in skirmish. Still love my logi, but it's not better than an assault, just different.

I went into ScR pistols and SMGs in preparation of a logi-wide sidearm restriction that (thankfully) never came. Been dumping SP into Minmatar assault on my main and should have my Mk.0 before Thanksgiving. Tried it on a 15m SP alt, and it's way different than my logi and better in certain areas. Extra sidearm clip size opens some more options like starting ambushes with swarm launchers and battle sniping in skirmish. Still love my logi, but it's not better than an assault, just different.

Yeah
4 lows + 4 high, Hacking speed, Armor regen, 4 Equipment slots, more CPU and PG are NOT better than +0.04 speed ,, 5 high slots (at the cost of only 2 Lows) and some sidearm bonus.

Sure.....

Logis is NOT better than the assault,just different...

Cosgar , c'man man...

Logi can't get 100 rounds on an Ishukone SMG.

Thats the ONLY reason you have. Still does not make the suit equal to the logi.

Any other reason you can think of, the logi has the slots and CPU-PG to out-do the assault...

The Amarr Assault is THE ONLY ASSAULT SUIT that has something LOGIS CANT DO, there by , useful.
U use laser weapons u go Amarr Asssault for MAXIMUM efficiency, PERIOD. This is NOT tthe assault being better,nor EQUAL to the Logi version,because its not....Logi amarr is STILL better than the Assault with 1 more low slot, 2 more Equip slots, more CPU/PG in exchange for 50 stamina,3shield regen per sec and some speed... >..>

Does not apply to Cal assaul,Min assault and Gal assault.
LEts see how many people say:''yeah i have Gallente Logi proto,but since im assaulting and using a HYBRID WEAPON im going Gallente assault.''

PLEASE.

Your specific case doesnt not apply , Logis are still broken...

You need to stop staring at spread sheets. Both suits are viable in an FPS. No more, no less. God forbid anything but an assault being able to get kills.

You need to stop staring at spread sheets. Both suits are viable in an FPS. No more, no less. God forbid anything but an assault being able to get kills.

Cat, I see where your numbers are coming from, but here's a more accurate depiction of a fit for Assaulting (i.e. KILL ZEM ALLZ)

Cal Logi-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkNsTEpFxMxPdFRtOEswWGNWcl9ydWFQdHM1SklHUlE&usp=sharing

Cal Salt-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkNsTEpFxMxPdHZWTGNoZTkyTXhMb3BTMm1IdVJvX2c&usp=sharing

Gal Salt-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkNsTEpFxMxPdDhvcjJaUDV1Vy1pT1E3UHIxNDJhZGc&usp=sharing

Gal Logi-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkNsTEpFxMxPdDh1STNtRTd1R1pvMlRUbzJsRUFMeHc&usp=sharing

Min Salt-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkNsTEpFxMxPdHctYlcyZk9CbWVwcWUxRGZKMmpRTFE&usp=sharing

Min Logi-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkNsTEpFxMxPdFp1QjA5NFJtdW05ZU11Umh0c0E1b0E&usp=sharing

Amarr Salt-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkNsTEpFxMxPdDhFLXlPT3JYY0hoNkt1SEVmazJ5cGc&usp=sharing

Amarr Logi-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkNsTEpFxMxPdEZqV3MxSUprWWZrNDhaZFFTTGItQmc&usp=sharing

As you can see, for the majority of all the Combat fits (I went full tank here to showcase who the Logi abusers have been abusing the extra slots. Only the Amarr suits have equipment, and that's only a standard needle) of both suits, Logistics provide much more HP for lose of a Sidearm, and speed.

The Amarr Logi loses .24 meters per second. Every 4 seconds its assault counterpart is one meter in front of it.

The Caldari Logi loses .42 meters per second. Every 2 seconds its assault counterpart move one meter in front.

The Minmatar Logi loses .8 meters per second. Roughly every second its assault counterparts move one meter ahead.

The Gallente Logi loses .37 meters per second. Roughly every three seconds, its assault counterpart grows one meter ahead.

However, they have an boost of HP.

Caldari Logi gains 318 HP over its assault variant

Gallente Logi gains 245 HP over its assault variant

Minmatar logi gains 380 over its assault variant.

Amarr logi gains 167 over its assault fit, while retaining the sidearm and Equipment slots

While this may seem like a fair trade, considering that we can spawn 27K LAVs wherever the hell we want, the speed factor is made null. This tactic was, and still is by the select few, used by heavies to make up for their snail pace.

So, for all intents and purposes, the Logistic Suits gain 300 HP over its assault brothers, while losing speed that is used to cross the difference between the LAV parking spot and the Objective.




Balanced you say?

@KING CHECKMATE and Meeko Fent
I've said my peace about logis v assaults for 6 months. CCP already corrected the problem with CaLogi which overpowered every suit in the game short of heavies (Wish they changed it to 5H/3L/4E at proto, but whatever) and gave the Amarr a needed buff. There's been nothing about logis since then outside of them working on the bonus tagging system to eliminate useless blanket bonuses. I could argue over this for hours, but why bother? You're set in your own (borderline partial) opinions, so there's no point in trying to change your minds. This is just going to be another dead logi topic in the next couple of days and the cycle starts over again without a blue tag. Only difference is I'll have a Mk.0 Logi and assault for different situations. In fact, I'll probably be using the assault more until CCP sorts out the CoD level TTK since it's much cheaper to fit. And you know what? I won't lose any sleep because I'm confident that CCP isn't going to give into knee-jerk reactions and forum QQing. Good luck on your endeavors because you're going to need a better case.

1-Fair enough
2-GL with what? Im rocking an Amarr Logi and will get Proto this week. LOL.

Fix or no fix, i win.

Extra note: BTW: the cal LOGI needs that 4th LOW slot to put in a CPU enhancer. Just saying.

It isn't that the LOGI is superior as an assault, when fitted out the same they basically end up the same which is kinda the problem, why go assault when the logi can assault or logi? But assaults do AV better, meh just use the basic medium frame and save yourself the SP. The assaults lack any real incentive to use them bar the ammar which is more useful with 2 weapons.

It isn't that the LOGI is superior as an assault, when fitted out the same they basically end up the same which is kinda the problem, why go assault when the logi can assault or logi? But assaults do AV better, meh just use the basic medium frame and save yourself the SP. The assaults lack any real incentive to use them bar the ammar which is more useful with 2 weapons.