I wouldn't be taking that route of thinking. If you're new around here let me give you a history lesson: Almost every competent heavy ditched the suit and went medium frame for a reason. There's very few vet heavies left from back in Closed Beta. Nothing Lance says is untrue and I agree with his points about the suit and disagree with yours.


You're pretty aggressive yourself lol

How do you expect to help fellow heavies if you chew there head off at the slightest comments? This guy is doing nothing but trying to help people himself, most heavies don't bother, mostly due to lack of experience or fear of forums lol

You're pretty aggressive yourself lol

How do you expect to help fellow heavies if you chew there head off at the slightest comments? This guy is doing nothing but trying to help people himself, most heavies don't bother, mostly due to lack of experience or fear of forums lol

Ill take whatever route i want and say whatever i want to say about anyone on this forum. You dont have to agree with me on anything I'm not running for any office. All I'm saying is it works I'm profiting from it im getting positive kdrs it works now because someone else or someone like yourself can't thats not my problem.

Someone has to ***** about the class in order for it to get fixed. People like you wonder around playing pub games saying "Oh the HMG is fine! The class is fine! You just suck! HTFU!"

I've been playing this game since last year before E3. I've seen the changes this game went through, I've witnessed heavies being feared, and ruled CQC and I'm here to witness the same class become a joke. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a noob that can't play a class right?

Yo seriously join the club I've been here a long time too. Maybe just saying more damage wont help if youre too slow to hit anything that being said its better to know where your enemy is and where he/she is going.

relax guys! I think I'm coming off wrong.

Ld has his own play styles and finds it works - that's admirable. It doesn't work on a competitive level and that's our complaint - but we're discussing apples and oranges here when we discuss pubs vs PC.

Long as he enjoys the class that's all that matters - and we should welcome a positive heavy into our heavy community ranks.

One day the heavy will be fixed and we'll all be glad we put SP into it <3

relax guys! I think I'm coming off wrong.

Ld has his own play styles and finds it works - that's admirable. It doesn't work on a competitive level and that's our complaint - but we're discussing apples and oranges here when we discuss pubs vs PC.

Long as he enjoys the class that's all that matters - and we should welcome a positive heavy into our heavy community ranks.

One day the heavy will be fixed and we'll all be glad we put SP into it <3

It works in PC too most people on this game complain about everything they possibly can with just results in FOTM races if you just tilt things slightly to your advantage you can make it work.

I like your optimism. Being a perpetual cynic, I'm not holding my breath for a fix. I like how medium suits got ALL their suits, got a nice set of ARs to pick, Sc. Rifles, and now getting more AR variants to pick from.

Meanwhile, almost 2 years now heavies have 1 race, 1 AI weapon, 1 AV...lol... I'm not expecting a fix.

Does Not Work In PC. If you don't have a guy with an active scanner around your team is fail to begin with and you should be complaining.

Yet you're here - fighting for heavies? I sense a contradiction.

Does Not Work In PC. If you don't have a guy with an active scanner around your team is fail to begin with and you should be complaining.

Bingo! There's at least 2-3 people with an active scanner out. Dying to people you didn't see is your teammates fault for not calling it out. Heavies play a positioning game, and work angles to suit what cover they have, so people walking up on you should never be a problem, especially now.

Then again, all my arguments are based on PC. Can't blame anyone if you're in a pub but yourself.

Hmm well yeah most of the time in PC battles in pubs too the scanner is always a factor. You are only scanned for a few seconds and thats it until someone else scans or your buddy does another scan. Your scan is 24/7 why not have your buddy pack extra equipment? Also the lowest scan on scanners are 15 and 28db the only thing your suit cant pickup are scouts everyone else is fair game. Im not looking for scouts im not looking for the guy with the thales redlining I just wanna kill as many players in my kill range as possible.

So... Instead of the more reliable, much much bigger range scanner, you'd waste your own slot beefing up your very short ranged one that could still miss scouts with dampeners?

It's almost a requirement for PC matches to have 1-2 scanners. Leave them to there work and pack your suit with firepower and health.

I think you're missing my point - I do know where they are - always. So, does that help point out why I wouldn't bother beefing up something pointlessly?

If I'm getting stomped - wasting a slot to have a greater scan is only going to make things worse.

Do proto scanners miss people who put dampeners on? And even if they did would I want to sacrifice nearly 300+ HP to do so? >_>

That is assuming dampeners are low slots. I've never honestly used them.

I'm willing to give your idea a shot - but it doesn't seem viable.

I just think its funny that more hp is viable if you're still dying fast. Why not get the jump on your enemies every single time. Proto scanners are cool but thats 100 meter range most objectives are hundreds of meters apart. If they know where you are it doesnt really matter because you know where they are coming from. The best use for scanners are picking up snipers and orbitals sitting and waiting for you squad mate to scan and area for you nothing pops up then a squad comes around the corner while the scanner is recharging for me its just not viable. If your squad mate dies your screwed till he respawns its working for me i dot have my skills maxed there are just lvl 3 atm. I've gone positive fairly often im not saying im some bad ass heavy its just im not being run over by other fits as a few of you insist on casting doubt.

Proto scanners would probably miss a gallente scout but who cares. Im not being caught off guard and I always get the first shot and the last I die if I'm caught in the open or overwhelmed. The Burst HMG works exactly like a shotgun but when multiple people comes it sucks so to hold an objective i would stick with the normal hmg or assualt.

As I said before - dust 514 is a team game. You shouldn't be running solo, or by yourself. And if you are by yourself - as a heavy - you should be in a LAV. And if you're in an LAV you should have a scanner equipped that will do what you want but better.

I do plan to try out your idea though and see what comes from it after I save up enough SP. I'll let you know how it turns out after 20 or so games with it.

Going off everything you said before you still complain about dying why? Even with the whole no HMG spread which ive already caught onto quite early explain why you cant kill someone when you know exactly where they will be.

-snip- editing to sound like assho.