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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.09 01:05:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:That's only what, 15million sp with no armor mods other than a repper.
lol... def not spending that much SP into a class CCP ignores.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.11 07:41:00 -
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GENERAL FCF wrote: Dude! No freaking lie! The HMG is Soo nerfed even prototype sucks! I only used HMG's for a month strait without switching classes and playing everyday! The range for the Adv. MH-82 should be the range of the Mo-4. The range of the Mo-4 should be the range of Advanced AR's. The Range of the Boundless HMG should be the range of assault Duvolls. The Range of the Freedom HMG should be the Max range of tactical assault rifles. The damage of Adv. HMG'S increased by 2.00 and the damage of prototype HMG's increased by 4.00. (Using the current base damage of Uprising 1.6) Don't nerf the Light weapons, just make the HMG's stand a fighting chance against them. And increase the base shield/armor of sentinels to 1,000 each. And bring us Gallente Heavy Dropsuits please:) And thank you! I'm speaking for the Heavies, the neglected class in Dust 514.
I've been using heavy HMG for a long time, and right now the class is at it's worst. Since last year April I've been playing DUST, and heavies went from being feared, to being a joke as of right now. Honestly, people shouldn't put a single SP into the class till it gets more content or CCP does something to fix it. Adding a laughable 150 eHP does absolutely nothing for the class.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.11 07:47:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote: It really depends on how you play the game 30 meters or 36 meters is plenty of warning that someone is going to come through a doorway obviously you could hold objectives with this fit the optimal range on a HMG is 30-45 meters how is seeing someone 30-36 meters before they come around a corner or into a doorway. Im not telling anyone to take a HMG and go running into an open field but if you need to defend an objective this is a great fit. Also if you know you are a target why not have sensors you know the enemy is coming 30 -36 meters in advance he doesnt know you are there because he has damage mods or shields armor uplinks nano hives injection needles explosives repair tools. The odds of everyone running active scanners just isnt that high.
To the others posting other fits i think thats nice that you share them but im specifically talking about the HMG I would also like to add that the advanced car-9 burst pistol or the tactical pistol (..I have 155 :-)..) will also work nicely with this fit.
Look I get you're trying to help and what not, so don't take my honesty as a personal attack.
Seeing people or not being seen serves no purpose for a heavy in competitive games (PC). Heavies are usually relegated to camping a rooftop with a FG, or hiding behind pillars / walls / crates on objectives. You could see red dots coming from a mile away, wont make a difference when they walk through the door spamming nades, and shooting ARs.
Fact is, there's no reason to use an HMG to "hold objectives" when other classes do the job better. Doesn't matter what fit you try to use, it comes down to using an HMG with 2 dmg mods, and that is farting against thunder. It's a joke.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:08:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Ld Collins wrote: It really depends on how you play the game 30 meters or 36 meters is plenty of warning that someone is going to come through a doorway obviously you could hold objectives with this fit the optimal range on a HMG is 30-45 meters how is seeing someone 30-36 meters before they come around a corner or into a doorway. Im not telling anyone to take a HMG and go running into an open field but if you need to defend an objective this is a great fit. Also if you know you are a target why not have sensors you know the enemy is coming 30 -36 meters in advance he doesnt know you are there because he has damage mods or shields armor uplinks nano hives injection needles explosives repair tools. The odds of everyone running active scanners just isnt that high.
To the others posting other fits i think thats nice that you share them but im specifically talking about the HMG I would also like to add that the advanced car-9 burst pistol or the tactical pistol (..I have 155 :-)..) will also work nicely with this fit.
Look I get you're trying to help and what not, so don't take my honesty as a personal attack. Seeing people or not being seen serves no purpose for a heavy in competitive games (PC). Heavies are usually relegated to camping a rooftop with a FG, or hiding behind pillars / walls / crates on objectives. You could see red dots coming from a mile away, wont make a difference when they walk through the door spamming nades, and shooting ARs. Fact is, there's no reason to use an HMG to "hold objectives" when other classes do the job better. Doesn't matter what fit you try to use, it comes down to using an HMG with 2 dmg mods, and that is farting against thunder. It's a joke. Sorry guess I have no idea what im talking about because I've never been in a pc battle ~ sarcasm. The fact is that you're terrible at it I went 12 -1 with a lesser fit today no squad. Ive killed other heavys in advanced suits and med frame proto suit users when I had a logi to help me in other rounds I for the most part stayed positive all day. I have 20 million + Sp I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing. You don't have any logical rebuttle you just say it won't work lol but I'm already doing it. I'd say a heavy is only as good as the people around him if you or your squad isn't good at PC then your just not good at PC. More health/shield makes heavy with HMG better nope. More damage with HMG makes Heavy better nope. More range makes a heavy with HMG better nope. 1. You just got a HP/Shield Buff - people still complain 2. More damage sounds good but there's an issue with spread sense your optimal kill range is 30m. I'll also quote you on this one. Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Doesn't matter what fit you try to use, it comes down to using an HMG with 2 dmg mods, and that is farting against thunder. It's a joke.
We can agree that more damage is not the issue. 3. More range would just make you a more obvious target and you wont get the same range as AR. I'll also quote you again. Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Heavies are usually relegated to camping a rooftop with a FG, or hiding behind pillars / walls / crates on objectives..
So tell me why knowing where your enemy is and will be is useless especially if every time the enemy is on radar he is within your kill range?
So you're saying it's a "fact" I'm terrible at being a heavy?
Going 12-1 in a pub means you're good?
I'm sorry, but after you said that I can't take anything you say serious, in fact I'll go as far as saying you're an idiot. You played a couple PC games and now you think you created the BEST FIT EVER MADE... please.
Your fit is a joke, and it does nothing for the problems heavies face in a PC game.
OMG I CAN SEE PEOPLE COMING AT ME!!! ...then what? You put your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye?
Stick to pubs and playing against bad teams in PC.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:13:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Lance, If you smack every person who says things without knowing who they're speaking too we'd run out of forum posters, relax. Lol
Not everyone plays this game as competitively as we do so there perspective is completely different.
bu but... he was mean
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:18:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:Lance if the shoe fits wear it you seem to be doing a lot of bitching.
Someone has to ***** about the class in order for it to get fixed. People like you wonder around playing pub games saying "Oh the HMG is fine! The class is fine! You just suck! HTFU!"
I've been playing this game since last year before E3. I've seen the changes this game went through, I've witnessed heavies being feared, and ruled CQC and I'm here to witness the same class become a joke. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a noob that can't play a class right?
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:21:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: You're pretty aggressive yourself lol
How do you expect to help fellow heavies if you chew there head off at the slightest comments? This guy is doing nothing but trying to help people himself, most heavies don't bother, mostly due to lack of experience or fear of forums lol
People shouldn't get into the class, simple. Helping people by telling them basically to spend every single SP into the heavy class? Really???? A class that i'll skill out of if I was given a respec. People should run away from using the class, honestly.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:24:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:
Ill take whatever route i want and say whatever i want to say about anyone on this forum. You dont have to agree with me on anything I'm not running for any office. All I'm saying is it works I'm profiting from it im getting positive kdrs it works now because someone else or someone like yourself can't thats not my problem.
Ignorance is bliss
Enjoy preaching about a dying class, while I go about discrediting anyone saying the class is good as it is. You have your objective, I have mine.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:29:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:relax guys! I think I'm coming off wrong.
Ld has his own play styles and finds it works - that's admirable. It doesn't work on a competitive level and that's our complaint - but we're discussing apples and oranges here when we discuss pubs vs PC.
Long as he enjoys the class that's all that matters - and we should welcome a positive heavy into our heavy community ranks.
One day the heavy will be fixed and we'll all be glad we put SP into it <3
I like your optimism. Being a perpetual cynic, I'm not holding my breath for a fix. I like how medium suits got ALL their suits, got a nice set of ARs to pick, Sc. Rifles, and now getting more AR variants to pick from.
Meanwhile, almost 2 years now heavies have 1 race, 1 AI weapon, 1 AV...lol... I'm not expecting a fix.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:34:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Ld Collins wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:relax guys! I think I'm coming off wrong.
Ld has his own play styles and finds it works - that's admirable. It doesn't work on a competitive level and that's our complaint - but we're discussing apples and oranges here when we discuss pubs vs PC.
Long as he enjoys the class that's all that matters - and we should welcome a positive heavy into our heavy community ranks.
One day the heavy will be fixed and we'll all be glad we put SP into it <3 It works in PC too most people on this game complain about everything they possibly can with just results in FOTM races if you just tilt things slightly to your advantage you can make it work. Does Not Work In PC. If you don't have a guy with an active scanner around your team is fail to begin with and you should be complaining.
Bingo! There's at least 2-3 people with an active scanner out. Dying to people you didn't see is your teammates fault for not calling it out. Heavies play a positioning game, and work angles to suit what cover they have, so people walking up on you should never be a problem, especially now.
Then again, all my arguments are based on PC. Can't blame anyone if you're in a pub but yourself.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:37:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Yet you're here - fighting for heavies? I sense a contradiction.
I'll continue fighting for heavies as I've always done. The fact that I have little belief in CCP means nothing in my cause. So there's no contradiction.
Someone has to be the annoying person constantly bringing up the class sucks, and I'll gladly do it every chance I get until something is done... or until I get my PS4
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