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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2157
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:21:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Yes logis outperform us. But i think ccp will change logis, or buff assaults. Better save sp. You dont wanna spec into smth that have hight chances for nerf. Why not I don't have much left to spec into so really all I can do is either try new things or try and get my cpu and pg skills up to level 5. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
482
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:22:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:so i've been off for a while. what is this thread talking about now? Thread hijacked. Now its logi vs assault :] should have seen that coming XD
How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
482
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:30:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Dexter307 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i mean come on. get over yourselves. so what if the logi beats the assault in almost every aspect? Worst argument ever, I try to defend logis but this makes it harder to... why exactly did you post? to single out that ONE fact? the logi and assault beat the scout in EVERY aspect. and you dont see me crying "nerf logis! nerf assaults!" come on dude, really? Because scouts are doing what they are supposed to do. Move fast, invisible to passives, but paper thin. Logis, given they are defined as a support role, are dropping hives and droplinks, revving people, repping wounded guys. However, you see more abusing the extra slots for a mega tank then for PG and CPU mods. Biscuit, your class is UP because, like heavies, you are both impotent in your role, or lack a well defined role. Logis have a well defined role, but also outperform another suit in its role. Your right in your point that scouts aren't shouting nerf, but that can be accrued to that nothing bleeds into your niche besides ROFLscanners. you're right. but i'm used to facing classes that beat me in every aspect, so i guess that is why logis don't seem overpowered to me. all i'm saying is that simple things like increasing scout cpu/pg are constantly being overlooked while everything medium frame hold dominion over everything.
How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2157
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:34:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Make my assault a better assault then my logi suit and I'll happily stop bitching. Until then I'll have to keep on using my logi instead of my assault since my logi does everything my assault can plus has 3 equipment spots and more tank. and what about my scout suit? your assault AND logi can tank much more have much more pg/cpu can beat me in every aspect that a scout does. but you dont see that, do you? be happy both suits are useable. This isn't about scouts. It's about logis being better assaults then assaults (I have scout suits too though. I love my shotty). Also scouts are useable its just not profitable unless you use std scouts (which is what I do and I make quite a profit + have good scores) i make very nice scores as well. plus by the "logi is better assault than assault" argument, then "assault and logi is better scout than scout." you guys should be happy you have balanced suits. there is nothing wrong with the logi or the assault. you dont see me complaining that heavies or logis can tank more health than me. just get used to it. i get the feeling you're under the impression that i am a bad scout. make no mistake i do very well almost every match, but that doesn't change the fact that scout suits are underpowered. assaults and logis are fine, honestly. Idk you so I cant tell whether you're bad or not but I can tell you that scouts are good but they do need a buff (Not a big one either. More CPU and PG and a little more speed should do. Possibly one more slot too).
Instead of gimping assaults because they are better then a gimped class why not buff both and make them both balanced at the same time instead of balancing one class at a time (Also how is it that the assault suit is balanced when a suit which main purpose is to support is better at slaying then the suit made for slaying. That's not balanced in any way shape or form). Also its hard to balance scouts and heavies when they don't have all of their racial variants. (CCP is trying to balance them for what they're now and not what they will become when all the racial variants are out) |
Mejt0
Made in Poland...
57
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:35:00 -
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Now game im role look for me like this.
Battles vs:
assault vs logi heavy vs ? (who cant kill heavy lol :d) scouts vs snipers/redliners and backdoors |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
711
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:39:00 -
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What many don't understand is that while the Logistics class can be everything....
...They can't be everything at the same time
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
482
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:43:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Make my assault a better assault then my logi suit and I'll happily stop bitching. Until then I'll have to keep on using my logi instead of my assault since my logi does everything my assault can plus has 3 equipment spots and more tank. and what about my scout suit? your assault AND logi can tank much more have much more pg/cpu can beat me in every aspect that a scout does. but you dont see that, do you? be happy both suits are useable. This isn't about scouts. It's about logis being better assaults then assaults (I have scout suits too though. I love my shotty). Also scouts are useable its just not profitable unless you use std scouts (which is what I do and I make quite a profit + have good scores) i make very nice scores as well. plus by the "logi is better assault than assault" argument, then "assault and logi is better scout than scout." you guys should be happy you have balanced suits. there is nothing wrong with the logi or the assault. you dont see me complaining that heavies or logis can tank more health than me. just get used to it. i get the feeling you're under the impression that i am a bad scout. make no mistake i do very well almost every match, but that doesn't change the fact that scout suits are underpowered. assaults and logis are fine, honestly. Idk you so I cant tell whether you're bad or not but I can tell you that scouts are good but they do need a buff (Not a big one either. More CPU and PG and a little more speed should do. Possibly one more slot too). Instead of gimping assaults because they are better then a gimped class why not buff both and make them both balanced at the same time instead of balancing one class at a time (Also how is it that the assault suit is balanced when a suit which main purpose is to support is better at slaying then the suit made for slaying. That's not balanced in any way shape or form). Also its hard to balance scouts and heavies when they don't have all of their racial variants. (CCP is trying to balance them for what they're now and not what they will become when all the racial variants are out) i never said to gimp assaults. yes it sucks that logis can slay better than assaults, but that comes with the territory of being a logi. lots of slots inevitably leads to a very powerful suit. its something that you must learn to deal with. as of now the logi is the EZ mode between logi and assault. just like the AR is the EZ mode of the weapons. i wouldn't mind if it is tweaked, but that should not be top priority at the moment when other suits really do need the attention.
How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2157
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:52:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: This isn't about scouts. It's about logis being better assaults then assaults (I have scout suits too though. I love my shotty). Also scouts are useable its just not profitable unless you use std scouts (which is what I do and I make quite a profit + have good scores)
i make very nice scores as well. plus by the "logi is better assault than assault" argument, then "assault and logi is better scout than scout." you guys should be happy you have balanced suits. there is nothing wrong with the logi or the assault. you dont see me complaining that heavies or logis can tank more health than me. just get used to it. i get the feeling you're under the impression that i am a bad scout. make no mistake i do very well almost every match, but that doesn't change the fact that scout suits are underpowered. assaults and logis are fine, honestly. Idk you so I cant tell whether you're bad or not but I can tell you that scouts are good but they do need a buff (Not a big one either. More CPU and PG and a little more speed should do. Possibly one more slot too). Instead of gimping assaults because they are better then a gimped class why not buff both and make them both balanced at the same time instead of balancing one class at a time (Also how is it that the assault suit is balanced when a suit which main purpose is to support is better at slaying then the suit made for slaying. That's not balanced in any way shape or form). Also its hard to balance scouts and heavies when they don't have all of their racial variants. (CCP is trying to balance them for what they're now and not what they will become when all the racial variants are out) i never said to gimp assaults. yes it sucks that logis can slay better than assaults, but that comes with the territory of being a logi. lots of slots inevitably leads to a very powerful suit. its something that you must learn to deal with. as of now the logi is the EZ mode between logi and assault. just like the AR is the EZ mode of the weapons. i wouldn't mind if it is tweaked, but that should not be top priority at the moment when other suits really do need the attention. Really all CCP has to do is give assaults bonuses that actually contribute to being a better assault. Examples: 1-2% extra damage per level (Or even just reduce CPU and/or PG usage on damage mods or make damage mods more effective for assaults), 5% faster reload a level, Reduced CPU and/or PG usage on light weapons, more shields/armor per level and a lot of other things. Just adding some of these small bonuses would help make assaults better at assaulting. You can also add bonuses to logis which help define their role such as increased reps with repair tool, lower cpu and/or pg usage for equipment, lessen spawn time from uplinks per level and plenty of other too. These are fixes that can be done quickly and make quite a difference. Also of course add more bonuses to scouts and heavies to help define their roles too.
I do agree that heavies and scouts need some love but there's no reason why CCP can't give them some love while giving others love too at the same time. |
crispipin
The Vanguardians
32
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:06:00 -
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Well said |
DEZKA DIABLO
Unkn0wn Killers
8
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:27:00 -
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My main account got banned last night for making a similar post an exposing that the dps in this game needs to be looked at because every patch is different.
I too am a proto minja on my main an also had to skill min logi an G scout for better survivability, I use the logi as a sg scout with loads of equip an all my scout mods an I don't wish to go Ar 514, smg is enough, but it's been getting infuriating when a sg with two damage mods can't drop a med frame in two shots because after the first shot lands they just start shooting an turning without even seeing what they hit before we drop or allowing the sg rof to get a sEcond shot an too me that's TOO DAMN FAST.
Logis an assaults have no clue the pain of heavies an scouts an continue this brat spoiled childish war an it's obsurd that ccp caters to any of it before fixing frames that have been left in dust hell for months with no respec options or hope that they might one day have a FAIR unit.
It's disgusting an it's why our player base is so low |
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
486
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:27:00 -
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crispipin wrote:Well said you're talking to me tight? if so then then thanks
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
486
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:29:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:My main account got banned last night for making a similar post an exposing that the dps in this game needs to be looked at because every patch is different.
I too am a proto minja on my main an also had to skill min logi an G scout for better survivability, I use the logi as a sg scout with loads of equip an all my scout mods an I don't wish to go Ar 514, smg is enough, but it's been getting infuriating when a sg with two damage mods can't drop a med frame in two shots because after the first shot lands they just start shooting an turning without even seeing what they hit before we drop or allowing the sg rof to get a sEcond shot an too me that's TOO DAMN FAST.
Logis an assaults have no clue the pain of heavies an scouts an continue this brat spoiled childish war an it's obsurd that ccp caters to any of it before fixing frames that have been left in dust hell for months with no respec options or hope that they might one day have a FAIR unit.
It's disgusting an it's why our player base is so low this guy gets it.
How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
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Meeko Fent
Xer Cloud Consortium
1447
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:30:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Dexter307 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i mean come on. get over yourselves. so what if the logi beats the assault in almost every aspect? Worst argument ever, I try to defend logis but this makes it harder to... why exactly did you post? to single out that ONE fact? the logi and assault beat the scout in EVERY aspect. and you dont see me crying "nerf logis! nerf assaults!" come on dude, really? Because scouts are doing what they are supposed to do. Move fast, invisible to passives, but paper thin. Logis, given they are defined as a support role, are dropping hives and droplinks, revving people, repping wounded guys. However, you see more abusing the extra slots for a mega tank then for PG and CPU mods. Biscuit, your class is UP because, like heavies, you are both impotent in your role, or lack a well defined role. Logis have a well defined role, but also outperform another suit in its role. Your right in your point that scouts aren't shouting nerf, but that can be accrued to that nothing bleeds into your niche besides ROFLscanners. you're right. but i'm used to facing classes that beat me in every aspect, so i guess that is why logis don't seem overpowered to me. all i'm saying is that simple things like increasing scout cpu/pg are constantly being overlooked while everything medium frame hold dominion over everything. I get you.
Hopefully scouts get hugz in this huge content release of 1.7.
May you remain valorous until then.
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