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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:48:00 -
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i mean come on. get over yourselves. so what if the logi beats the assault in almost every aspect? they are both VERY viable suits. the logi is COMPLTELY fine in my opinion. idgaf if it can tank 1000+ hp. i've been dealing with that for months.
now would you people please get your heads out of your asses and realize that there are actually other things that NEED tweaking. for example, the Minmatar Scout. without core skills, it gets a measly 230 cpu. What the hell can 230 cpu do? us scouts have been trying to push these kind of matters for a long time, but apparently to some people, a 6m passive scan increase is good enough.
now i know this isn't everyone, but i am so sick of seeing these "nerf logi" or "limit damage mod" threads when some of us actually NEED some love.
we're not asking to become slayers or be able to jump into a crowd and kill everyone. we just want to be on the same playing field. but some people can't get past themselves so that they can see the real issues here.
i fail to see how ccp thinks that adding more assault rifles and reducing the TTK every patch while at the same time leaving anyone who isn't a "logi or assault" to the wolves. i can deal with this short time to kill and all. its annoying and bullshit, but i can deal with it. it's getting rather difficult to deal with the fact that patch after patch, anyone who isn't in a medium frame or uses an AR gets the short end of the stick.
i'm happy for new weapons and suits and all, but in reality i'm probably not going to use the combat and rail rifle too often.
to those of you who don't want this game to turn into CoD 514 then thank you.
to chose who kept bitching and moaning about everything that wasn't an AR, then i ******* hate you. you are the reason that this game is not where it should be. if you want CoD then go play CoD. i came to DUST because i thought it would be different than CoD. i expected, and still are expecting this game to change the face of gaming for the better, and i know im not the only one.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 20:29:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i mean come on. get over yourselves. so what if the logi beats the assault in almost every aspect? Worst argument ever, I try to defend logis but this makes it harder to... why exactly did you post? to single out that ONE fact? the logi and assault beat the scout in EVERY aspect. and you dont see me crying "nerf logis! nerf assaults!"
come on dude, really?
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 20:34:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Make my assault a better assault then my logi suit and I'll happily stop bitching. Until then I'll have to keep on using my logi instead of my assault since my logi does everything my assault can plus has 3 equipment spots and more tank. and what about my scout suit?
your assault AND logi
can tank much more
have much more pg/cpu
can beat me in every aspect that a scout does.
but you dont see that, do you? be happy both suits are useable.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 20:36:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:The only broken logi suit is the Gallente.
They need no high slots. None, end of story. but every other logi gets highs and lows?
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 20:40:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:The only broken logi suit is the Gallente.
They need no high slots. None, end of story. Then calldari get no low slots. Give them there base armor and add to shields making them faster then yeah go for it otherwise it need 1 low for a rep let's stay on topic here.
this isn't a thread for people to discuss what changes they think the logi needs.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 20:43:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Obviously the almighty medium frames are WAYYY Better than the scout and heavy. It's a fact. It kinda silly seeing them argue when there are suits like the min scout and the commando that are horrendous... Lol that's exactly what i'm trying to say.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 20:47:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Nerf the scrambler rifle and bump up the sniper rifle CPU to be on par with other weapons...oops wrong thread...Caldari are lame. what?
i don't even...
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:35:00 -
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isn't it hilarious how when i say i hate this assault vs logi argument, people continue to do so, IN THIS THREAD nontheless.
go make another thread if you want to argue like that. if you want to talk about something constructive helping the suits that actually NEED help, then feel free to do so.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:16:00 -
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so i've been off for a while. what is this thread talking about now?
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:21:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Make my assault a better assault then my logi suit and I'll happily stop bitching. Until then I'll have to keep on using my logi instead of my assault since my logi does everything my assault can plus has 3 equipment spots and more tank. and what about my scout suit? your assault AND logi can tank much more have much more pg/cpu can beat me in every aspect that a scout does. but you dont see that, do you? be happy both suits are useable. This isn't about scouts. It's about logis being better assaults then assaults (I have scout suits too though. I love my shotty). Also scouts are useable its just not profitable unless you use std scouts (which is what I do and I make quite a profit + have good scores) i make very nice scores as well. plus by the "logi is better assault than assault" argument, then "assault and logi is better scout than scout."
you guys should be happy you have balanced suits. there is nothing wrong with the logi or the assault. you dont see me complaining that heavies or logis can tank more health than me. just get used to it.
i get the feeling you're under the impression that i am a bad scout. make no mistake i do very well almost every match, but that doesn't change the fact that scout suits are underpowered.
assaults and logis are fine, honestly.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:22:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:so i've been off for a while. what is this thread talking about now? Thread hijacked. Now its logi vs assault :] should have seen that coming XD
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:30:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Dexter307 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i mean come on. get over yourselves. so what if the logi beats the assault in almost every aspect? Worst argument ever, I try to defend logis but this makes it harder to... why exactly did you post? to single out that ONE fact? the logi and assault beat the scout in EVERY aspect. and you dont see me crying "nerf logis! nerf assaults!" come on dude, really? Because scouts are doing what they are supposed to do. Move fast, invisible to passives, but paper thin. Logis, given they are defined as a support role, are dropping hives and droplinks, revving people, repping wounded guys. However, you see more abusing the extra slots for a mega tank then for PG and CPU mods. Biscuit, your class is UP because, like heavies, you are both impotent in your role, or lack a well defined role. Logis have a well defined role, but also outperform another suit in its role. Your right in your point that scouts aren't shouting nerf, but that can be accrued to that nothing bleeds into your niche besides ROFLscanners. you're right. but i'm used to facing classes that beat me in every aspect, so i guess that is why logis don't seem overpowered to me. all i'm saying is that simple things like increasing scout cpu/pg are constantly being overlooked while everything medium frame hold dominion over everything.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:43:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Make my assault a better assault then my logi suit and I'll happily stop bitching. Until then I'll have to keep on using my logi instead of my assault since my logi does everything my assault can plus has 3 equipment spots and more tank. and what about my scout suit? your assault AND logi can tank much more have much more pg/cpu can beat me in every aspect that a scout does. but you dont see that, do you? be happy both suits are useable. This isn't about scouts. It's about logis being better assaults then assaults (I have scout suits too though. I love my shotty). Also scouts are useable its just not profitable unless you use std scouts (which is what I do and I make quite a profit + have good scores) i make very nice scores as well. plus by the "logi is better assault than assault" argument, then "assault and logi is better scout than scout." you guys should be happy you have balanced suits. there is nothing wrong with the logi or the assault. you dont see me complaining that heavies or logis can tank more health than me. just get used to it. i get the feeling you're under the impression that i am a bad scout. make no mistake i do very well almost every match, but that doesn't change the fact that scout suits are underpowered. assaults and logis are fine, honestly. Idk you so I cant tell whether you're bad or not but I can tell you that scouts are good but they do need a buff (Not a big one either. More CPU and PG and a little more speed should do. Possibly one more slot too). Instead of gimping assaults because they are better then a gimped class why not buff both and make them both balanced at the same time instead of balancing one class at a time (Also how is it that the assault suit is balanced when a suit which main purpose is to support is better at slaying then the suit made for slaying. That's not balanced in any way shape or form). Also its hard to balance scouts and heavies when they don't have all of their racial variants. (CCP is trying to balance them for what they're now and not what they will become when all the racial variants are out) i never said to gimp assaults. yes it sucks that logis can slay better than assaults, but that comes with the territory of being a logi. lots of slots inevitably leads to a very powerful suit. its something that you must learn to deal with. as of now the logi is the EZ mode between logi and assault. just like the AR is the EZ mode of the weapons. i wouldn't mind if it is tweaked, but that should not be top priority at the moment when other suits really do need the attention.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:27:00 -
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crispipin wrote:Well said you're talking to me tight? if so then then thanks
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:29:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:My main account got banned last night for making a similar post an exposing that the dps in this game needs to be looked at because every patch is different.
I too am a proto minja on my main an also had to skill min logi an G scout for better survivability, I use the logi as a sg scout with loads of equip an all my scout mods an I don't wish to go Ar 514, smg is enough, but it's been getting infuriating when a sg with two damage mods can't drop a med frame in two shots because after the first shot lands they just start shooting an turning without even seeing what they hit before we drop or allowing the sg rof to get a sEcond shot an too me that's TOO DAMN FAST.
Logis an assaults have no clue the pain of heavies an scouts an continue this brat spoiled childish war an it's obsurd that ccp caters to any of it before fixing frames that have been left in dust hell for months with no respec options or hope that they might one day have a FAIR unit.
It's disgusting an it's why our player base is so low this guy gets it.
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