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Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 109	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:09:00 - [1] - Quote I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
God Hates Lags Red Star. EoN. 177	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:11:00 - [2] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. In real life you aren't covered from head to toe in high tech body armor from 20,000 years in the future. And time to kill is fine if you're a med or a scout, but a one second time TTK makes the heavy pretty much worthless. So if you want to get rid of the heavy that's fine. But usually should probably give all of us a respec. Doubles ISK
SHOOOOTER Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 102	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:13:00 - [3] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Yep you're the problem. And unfortunately CCP is building a game around noobs like you who can't shoot.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 109	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:20:00 - [4] - Quote SHOOOOTER wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Yep you're the problem. And unfortunately CCP is building a game around noobs like you who can't shoot. So they should cater to what you want because I have a job, and can't poopsock all day, like you? GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1237	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:23:00 - [5] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Yep you're the problem. And unfortunately CCP is building a game around noobs like you who can't shoot. So they should cater to what you want because I have a job, and can't poopsock all day, like you? Ttk has nothing to do with that you half wit. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 316	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:25:00 - [6] - Quote whiners are the few in the past week bring it up,no one really gives a **** outside the forum
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 109	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:27:00 - [7] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Yep you're the problem. And unfortunately CCP is building a game around noobs like you who can't shoot. So they should cater to what you want because I have a job, and can't poopsock all day, like you? Ttk has nothing to do with that you half wit. I know. I was simply making a point. What does TTK have to do with me being a bad shooter? If anything it favors the good shooters. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 273	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:28:00 - [8] - Quote We wear what is essentially a shielded high tech tank... and we die in two hits from a magazine (clips are a whole other thing, and if you did any basic research on how firearms operate, you'd know the term clip is used wrong in most video games known to man). Yeah, I consider that a bad thing.
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1384	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:29:00 - [9] - Quote IDC about the TTK. Its OK. I feel bad for scouts, but they've always had it bad on the TTK side. I feel that the 10% buff COULD be rolled back, but it really doesn't bother me. But, I am a Med frame Assault Scrub, and therefore my opinion is worthless. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 184	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:34:00 - [10] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: IDC about the TTK. Its OK. I feel bad for scouts, but they've always had it bad on the TTK side. I feel that the 10% buff COULD be rolled back, but it really doesn't bother me. But, I am a Med frame Assault Scrub, and therefore my opinion is worthless. Glad you understand Dedicated fattie in need of new heavy content.

Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 430	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:35:00 - [11] - Quote You admit youre bad at the game, then presume as if anything you say will be valid to people that are good at the game... This game needs respecs every month. uMad buttsmex
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1241	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:40:00 - [12] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Yep you're the problem. And unfortunately CCP is building a game around noobs like you who can't shoot. So they should cater to what you want because I have a job, and can't poopsock all day, like you? Ttk has nothing to do with that you half wit. I know. I was simply making a point. What does TTK have to do with me being a bad shooter? If anything it favors the good shooters. I don't know but longer ttk requires way more tactics and teamwork than being able to just spray down 3 people with 1 SMG mag, dust used to require way more tactics and strategy and it worked because you didn't die so quick, now its a case of who shoots first wins pretty much, as cosgar says, 'it may as well be turn based' Why spend ages skilling into things that also cost a tonne more than std gear just to survive 4-5 extra bullets? There's no reward for time invested anymore, its just plain sht now, and don't get me started on grenade spam lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
RECON BY FIRE Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 295	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:40:00 - [13] - Quote In games like COD, Battlefield, etc TTK being short doesn't matter, your deaths don't matter, whether you win or lose doesn't matter. But in Dust these things matter, or at least theyre supposed to. At the very least being killed easily matters a lot because each death costs you in-game money. I wont even talk about losing proto suits since theres a lot of negative connotation that goes along with them, but given that the average match nets you 200k to 300k ISK and that the average ADV suit costs 50k, you can lose between 4 to 6 before you've gone negative on that match. Now add on top of that, that what we have right now is someone sneezes at you and you die, and you can easily die 10 times per match. So now you run STD suits so you can go ISK positive. With that you die even quicker and now you die 15 to 20 times a match, and still go ISK negative. If this was COD the current TTK would be fine, but this isn't COD and we shouldn't be dying so quickly. If I want that quick twitch shooter bullshit Ill go play COD and not worry about ISK or nothing like that. Stuff....?
God Hates Lags Red Star. EoN. 186	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:43:00 - [14] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Yep you're the problem. And unfortunately CCP is building a game around noobs like you who can't shoot. So they should cater to what you want because I have a job, and can't poopsock all day, like you? Ttk has nothing to do with that you half wit. I know. I was simply making a point. What does TTK have to do with me being a bad shooter? If anything it favors the good shooters. Where was this fabled point? Could you perhaps provide a rough sketch of a map so I might go on a quest to find it? Doubles ISK
8213 Grade No.2 528	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:45:00 - [15] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Yeah... I stopped reading as soon as you refernced something about real life... The comparing a VIDEO GAME to Real Life argument is about as high a testament to ignorance as someone can achieve...
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 436	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:05:00 - [16] - Quote Bawt I die to a bueet to day head in reel li3ph. Wet shood bee day Salem ien are videiu game. :((((((((((
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 327	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:14:00 - [17] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: In games like COD, Battlefield, etc TTK being short doesn't matter, your deaths don't matter, whether you win or lose doesn't matter. But in Dust these things matter, or at least theyre supposed to. At the very least being killed easily matters a lot because each death costs you in-game money. I wont even talk about losing proto suits since theres a lot of negative connotation that goes along with them, but given that the average match nets you 200k to 300k ISK and that the average ADV suit costs 50k, you can lose between 4 to 6 before you've gone negative on that match. Now add on top of that, that what we have right now is someone sneezes at you and you die, and you can easily die 10 times per match. So now you run STD suits so you can go ISK positive. With that you die even quicker and now you die 15 to 20 times a match, and still go ISK negative. If this was COD the current TTK would be fine, but this isn't COD and we shouldn't be dying so quickly. If I want that quick twitch shooter bullshit Ill go play COD and not worry about ISK or nothing like that. Pretty much exactly the same thing that I wanted to say. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 256	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:15:00 - [18] - Quote Lol, Why is that when people's opinion on the forums are sht and they think it's good and it matters. They tend to bring up real life sht to try and win an argument...
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1242	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:17:00 - [19] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Bawt I die to a bueet to day head in reel li3ph. Wet shood bee day Salem ien are videiu game. :(((((((((( I see you are also proficient at special case. I'm going to curl up in a ball and die if your not joking, lol Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 363	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:18:00 - [20] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. One huge flaw with your argument. This isn't Real life. We are trained mercs running around in heavily armored heavily shielded dropsuits. I guess you missed that part of the game. You really should avoid making any other posts until you understand that in this game we are running around in dropsuits that should be able to withstand a good deal of punishment. Till then any post you make is going to sound foolish just like the one that started this thread.

Vesago Ghostcore Rejected Clones 56	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:33:00 - [21] - Quote Today I ran about 30 matches with my 1.3 million SP alt as my 2 accounts were already capped. I ran half the day wit my heavy/adv HMG, and half with my dren C1/dren AR. I was well over positive KDR all day. I got shot up plenty, but I tend to hug cover, and i didn't lose my suit every time I was shot. I did however get lots of kills on guys popping out and standing there. I'm not trying to stir things up, but almost every heavy I killed today was motionless. That's just a bad idea. Once you see your shields bleed away, maybe cover is a good idea... I think that the lousy hit detection got heavies used to being able to crouch and fire and hack it. I will say I did see a much higher ease of killing scouts, so maybe they need some help. They added 80 each to shield and armor for heavies, maybe they should consider adding a bit to the other suits to offset the new hit detection improvement. say 40 each for mediums, and 20 or 30 each for scouts
Avallo Kantor Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 215	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:33:00 - [22] - Quote Personally one reason I really love DUST over other shooters is that it takes a bit longer to kill people. That time seems shorter after the update (I generally run a fairly low hp Amarr Assault and I can still survive getting shot at for a bit) but it's still not at COD levels (played a friend's version. I swear you die before you see the red on your screen to let you know you've been hit) Still, I'd like if things went back to being a bit longer to die. (Except from sniper bullets of course)
Text Grant Death Firm. 196	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:43:00 - [23] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Bawt I die to a bueet to day head in reel li3ph. Wet shood bee day Salem ien are videiu game. :(((((((((( I understood that?!? Everyone run! Trolling is cuntajus!!!
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1823	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:43:00 - [24] - Quote Just one point to all those who say we're using high-tech armour: the weapons we're using aren't exactly pea shooters either. "..things that some people frankly don't even get the chance to do in real life, because it's poorly designed." -Veigar
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1066	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:51:00 - [25] - Quote Forgive my non nerdiness wtf is a ttk haha
8213 Grade No.2 530	Posted - 2013.11.06 05:37:00 - [26] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Forgive my non nerdiness wtf is a ttk haha Time To Kill - How long it takes to kill an enemy with any weapon.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 811	Posted - 2013.11.06 07:21:00 - [27] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. My TTK has dropped since yesterday to about an average of 0.2 seconds 0.3 if they are heavy tanked proto's and my record now sits at 7 people right after each other before overheat starts being a problem, in 1.5 that was 4 people, i can literally brochette people in a hallway in ADS. It seems my accuracy with KBM now almost rivels my true 90% hitrate i had on PC shooters. Ive even been able to hold back 8 people from swarming my location at some point in a game, just by killing them the instant they left cover. Ive even seen bullets that would have been an actual miss in 1.5 HIT at long distance ranges, i was like Dafuq ?? While this hasnt made my invulnerable to return weapon fire, i have noticed that even Exile & Miltia AR's are extremely deadly if their AA locks onto you, but i can still 3 vs 1 most of them on an open field and Even hipfire creams people really fast. I am not whining but i did join a loosing game yesterday that was 2/3 the done, went to the point, ran a 30/0 r*ping everything that got into my Optimal Range, most people i target don't have time anymore to even say "Dafuq" anymore. I see em, they drop.... I would much rather go back to chromosone TTK's, because quite frankly i didnt come here to play another Call of Battle Ghostfield 4. Either i am way too used to playing against Aimbots & cheaters on PC shooters or there is something really wrong with the low bal ceiling that is console shooter joe average. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 913	Posted - 2013.11.06 07:28:00 - [28] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. No, it does not take half a clip to drop people. Even if it did, what matters is how fast you can put it out. A Duvolle with Proficiency 5 and 2 Complex Damage Modifiers takes around 15 bullets to take out the 800 health of your average tanked proto suit. This is a QUARTER of a clip, and takes less than a SECOND AND A HALF to unload. Me? I die in a single second. A Duvolle use can kill almost 5 of me in one clip at 600-700 health. I don't even have time to turn and see the guy shooting me in the side before I'm dead. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 195	Posted - 2013.11.06 07:29:00 - [29] - Quote Vesago Ghostcore wrote: Today I ran about 30 matches with my 1.3 million SP alt as my 2 accounts were already capped. I ran half the day wit my heavy/adv HMG, and half with my dren C1/dren AR. I was well over positive KDR all day. I got shot up plenty, but I tend to hug cover, and i didn't lose my suit every time I was shot. I did however get lots of kills on guys popping out and standing there. I'm not trying to stir things up, but almost every heavy I killed today was motionless. That's just a bad idea. Once you see your shields bleed away, maybe cover is a good idea... I think that the lousy hit detection got heavies used to being able to crouch and fire and hack it. I will say I did see a much higher ease of killing scouts, so maybe they need some help. They added 80 each to shield and armor for heavies, maybe they should consider adding a bit to the other suits to offset the new hit detection improvement. say 40 each for mediums, and 20 or 30 each for scouts You do realize that unless you are 10m from a heavy they have to stop, crouch, and ADS to get even half their bullets to hit. Dedicated fattie in need of new heavy content.
Eris Ernaga DUST University Ivy League 659	Posted - 2013.11.06 11:54:00 - [30] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Lol because only bad shooter players even ask for AA to stay in you are being on sided about the whole thing go run heavy or scout exclusively and you'll see the problem. And because older players have seen the game change from something good to bad aiming use to be fine and and consistent now it's buggy and over accurate with the new AA system. No one would have disagreed with the hit detection fixes if the Assault class wasn't bullying any other class. Ba bang baby



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