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Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 920	Posted - 2013.11.06 12:01:00 - [31] - Quote Fool If you belive yourself to be a poor aimer, it explains why you think TTK is fine! People aren't surviving half a mag, you are missing terribly! A 500hp suit takes just 18 bullets, just over a 1/4 and thats for the miltia, the worst version. We want to feel fragile, sure, I want to have to use cover, of course I do, I don't want the 1.3 texan 2 stepping to return. But I do not want to die at 40m to an AR because the guy friggin looked at me! The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 582	Posted - 2013.11.06 13:24:00 - [32] - Quote I think the REAL issue people have is losing ISK hand over fist because they are STILL running Advanced and Proto Gear in friggin Pub Matches. WAKE UP PEOPLE!! Advanced and Proto gear is suppose to give you a nominal increase in whatever skill set you are trying to enhance. It is not suppose to make you invincible. It is suppose to give you a slight edge when it counts. You know, like Planetary Conquest, or when you need to take one last objective to win a Faction Contract. Then you 'suit up' with the good stuff to try and give you an advantage and increase the chance for accomplishing the given task. The real value in most skills are the inherent bonus they offer, not just the fact that they unlock some shiny new 'thing' that you probably can't afford to use on a regular basis anyway. If everyone stopped trying to Keep Up With The Joneses then there would be a lot less QQ. Going 10-6 in Basic gear is a lot less painful than being a Proto-bear and going 33-11. We laugh at those fools
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 112	Posted - 2013.11.06 13:36:00 - [33] - Quote So, because I'm not a tryhard, my opinion is not valid. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1887	Posted - 2013.11.06 13:47:00 - [34] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: So, because I'm not a tryhard, my opinion is not valid. It's more because your op has more holes in it then swiss cheese i think.... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 1 Fix my class already
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 481	Posted - 2013.11.06 13:53:00 - [35] - Quote RydogV wrote: I think the REAL issue people have is losing ISK hand over fist because they are STILL running Advanced and Proto Gear in friggin Pub Matches. I run advanced suits because standard Amarr suits have approximately zero slots. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1403	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:03:00 - [36] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: IDC about the TTK. Its OK. I feel bad for scouts, but they've always had it bad on the TTK side. I feel that the 10% buff COULD be rolled back, but it really doesn't bother me. But, I am a Med frame Assault Scrub, and therefore my opinion is worthless. I'm starting to question the number of likes this post got. What did I do to anger the notification gods? Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1403	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:04:00 - [37] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: RydogV wrote: I think the REAL issue people have is losing ISK hand over fist because they are STILL running Advanced and Proto Gear in friggin Pub Matches. I run advanced suits because standard Amarr suits have approximately zero slots. Try the logi. I feel bad have my own personal assaultlogi, but not that bad. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1737	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:09:00 - [38] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Look I'm sorry cod ghost turned out to be **** but feak off Dust514 is not ment to be a twitch shooter and there are a lot more of us than u lost CoD kids so why don't u shut it and lets get dust back to where were we all super soldiers with lots of fitting choices rather rather what we have right now. select starter free fit...own proto suits. Anyone who thinks ttk is fine was clearly awful at the game and this first time they found they could kill somthing. Which is fine in CoD but again I don't want to play a twitch shooter "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1404	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:15:00 - [39] - Quote Vesago Ghostcore wrote: Today I ran about 30 matches with my 1.3 million SP alt as my 2 accounts were already capped. I ran half the day wit my heavy/adv HMG, and half with my dren C1/dren AR. I was well over positive KDR all day. I got shot up plenty, but I tend to hug cover, and i didn't lose my suit every time I was shot. I did however get lots of kills on guys popping out and standing there. I'm not trying to stir things up, but almost every heavy I killed today was motionless. That's just a bad idea. Once you see your shields bleed away, maybe cover is a good idea... I think that the lousy hit detection got heavies used to being able to crouch and fire and hack it. I will say I did see a much higher ease of killing scouts, so maybe they need some help. They added 80 each to shield and armor for heavies, maybe they should consider adding a bit to the other suits to offset the new hit detection improvement. say 40 each for mediums, and 20 or 30 each for scouts Good idea. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 113	Posted - 2013.11.06 16:48:00 - [40] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Look I'm sorry cod ghost turned out to be **** but feak off Dust514 is not ment to be a twitch shooter and there are a lot more of us than u lost CoD kids so why don't u shut it and lets get dust back to where were we all super soldiers with lots of fitting choices rather rather what we have right now. select starter free fit...own proto suits. Anyone who thinks ttk is fine was clearly awful at the game and this first time they found they could kill somthing. Which is fine in CoD but again I don't want to play a twitch shooter Ive never played cod. I played eve. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace

Cosgar ParagonX 7391	Posted - 2013.11.06 16:59:00 - [41] - Quote Sorry OP, but I'd rather see extended battles of attrition instead of kill streaks. That's what made Dust 514 special. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2997	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:01:00 - [42] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Look I'm sorry cod ghost turned out to be **** but feak off Dust514 is not ment to be a twitch shooter and there are a lot more of us than u lost CoD kids so why don't u shut it and lets get dust back to where were we all super soldiers with lots of fitting choices rather rather what we have right now. select starter free fit...own proto suits. Anyone who thinks ttk is fine was clearly awful at the game and this first time they found they could kill somthing. Which is fine in CoD but again I don't want to play a twitch shooter Ive never played cod. I played eve. You seem surprising ignorant about the concept of having suits/players fitted for tanking having issues with dying too quickly if you came from a game where you can fit/skill to tank damage.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 113	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:03:00 - [43] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Sorry OP, but I'd rather see extended battles of attrition instead of kill streaks. That's what made Dust 514 special. If the matchmaking would team people of similar skill, u would. Instead, you get the casual players getting wiped by the poopsockers. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 113	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:04:00 - [44] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Look I'm sorry cod ghost turned out to be **** but feak off Dust514 is not ment to be a twitch shooter and there are a lot more of us than u lost CoD kids so why don't u shut it and lets get dust back to where were we all super soldiers with lots of fitting choices rather rather what we have right now. select starter free fit...own proto suits. Anyone who thinks ttk is fine was clearly awful at the game and this first time they found they could kill somthing. Which is fine in CoD but again I don't want to play a twitch shooter Ive never played cod. I played eve. You seem surprising ignorant about the concept of having suits/players fitted for tanking having issues with dying too quickly if you came from a game where you can fit/skill to tank damage. There is a big difference tanking a ship to tanking what a person can wear. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Himiko Kuronaga The Generals EoN. 2179	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:13:00 - [45] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Yep you're the problem. And unfortunately CCP is building a game around noobs like you who can't shoot. So they should cater to what you want because I have a job, and can't poopsock all day, like you? You are not even what I would consider a secondary customer in this particular case. You do not fit into the majority which never visit the forums, and you do not into the greater minority who do visit the forums and tend to think a certain way. You somehow have managed to fit into a minority so obscure that you visit the forums, and have a dissident opinion that nearly anyone respectable would disagree with. That means you are not a target demographic for pretty much anything. CCP would be better off catering to basically anyone who isn't you.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 113	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:17:00 - [46] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: SHOOOOTER wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Yep you're the problem. And unfortunately CCP is building a game around noobs like you who can't shoot. So they should cater to what you want because I have a job, and can't poopsock all day, like you? You are not even what I would consider a secondary customer in this particular case. You do not fit into the majority which never visit the forums, and you do not into the greater minority who do visit the forums and tend to think a certain way. You somehow have managed to fit into a minority so obscure that you visit the forums, and have a dissident opinion that nearly anyone respectable would disagree with. That means you are not a target demographic for pretty much anything. CCP would be better off catering to basically anyone who isn't you. And how do you manage to come to that conclusion only based on my opinion on TTK GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Cosgar ParagonX 7392	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:26:00 - [47] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: Cosgar wrote: Sorry OP, but I'd rather see extended battles of attrition instead of kill streaks. That's what made Dust 514 special. If the matchmaking would team people of similar skill, u would. Instead, you get the casual players getting wiped by the poopsockers. We didn't have matchmaking in earlier builds and patches. Stop making excuses because broken gameplay makes your e-peen bigger. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Himiko Kuronaga The Generals EoN. 2183	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:30:00 - [48] - Quote Opinions are directly harnessed to mindsets, which determines the population sectors which CCP is interested in. It is fairly easy to tell which opinions are harnessed to which mindsets. However I went on more than just your opinion about TTK. I also went on the fact that you are the type who visits a forum (minority), the type who likes to argue for the sake of arguing (minority, and forcefully, i might add), and the type who claims he works as if it is some kind of accomplishment or right to entitlement. It shows several things. You are over entitled, dissident, and within two sectors of a minority gaming population. Basically, there is absolutely no reason CCP would want to ever cater to that kind of a demographic long term. There is hardly any profit in doing so, and holding your hand would be an exercise in frustration because it would **** off just about everyone else. Everything I just said was entirely pulled out of my ass by the way, but I can tell you are going to be secretly angry anyway. Now dance, puppet. Dance.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3000	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:32:00 - [49] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. Look I'm sorry cod ghost turned out to be **** but feak off Dust514 is not ment to be a twitch shooter and there are a lot more of us than u lost CoD kids so why don't u shut it and lets get dust back to where were we all super soldiers with lots of fitting choices rather rather what we have right now. select starter free fit...own proto suits. Anyone who thinks ttk is fine was clearly awful at the game and this first time they found they could kill somthing. Which is fine in CoD but again I don't want to play a twitch shooter Ive never played cod. I played eve. You seem surprising ignorant about the concept of having suits/players fitted for tanking having issues with dying too quickly if you came from a game where you can fit/skill to tank damage. There is a big difference tanking a ship to tanking what a person can wear. They're made to be analogous. The fact we're not ships means we don't have anything like titans/etc. The idea in having different damage types, four shield skills, three armor skills... ALL FOR DROPSUITS is to provide players choices in how to mitigate damage. Skilling up all of those takes a long time - shield extenders alone would take about a month to PRO if that's all you saved your SP for. If you believe the endpoint of skilling for months into tanking is "+1 second alive", then you may have some serious issues with logic. If you believe that skilling for months into tanking isn't supposed to matter because "dropsuits aren't ships", then you have issues with logic. Dust players are basically mini-EVE ships. That's how you should be approaching this. We skill into things and fit our suits to tank/etc. - this isn't a cover-based shooter, and it holds exactly zero similarity to "real life". Does taking longer to kill someone that's tanked in EVE mean you shoot till you run out of ammo? Is managing ammo too much strategy for you? Is the fact we have logistics suits and items to restore ammo too confusing? Here's some interesting other clues for you that this isn't real life: Real life weapons that we currently have are effective far beyond the range of pretty much every weapon in the game. In a real life encounter, you can leverage greater numbers. So, if you have a force of 100 people, you don't send 16 in to keep the numbers even. In real life, nanites can't bring you back from death or repair things like armor.
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 111	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:35:00 - [50] - Quote how does one become a poopsocker?

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1260	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:35:00 - [51] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Opinions are directly harnessed to mindsets, which determines the population sectors which CCP is interested in. It is fairly easy to tell which opinions are harnessed to which mindsets. However I went on more than just your opinion about TTK. I also went on the fact that you are the type who visits a forum (minority), the type who likes to argue for the sake of arguing (minority, and forcefully, i might add), and the type who claims he works as if it is some kind of accomplishment or right to entitlement. It shows several things. You are over entitled, dissident, and within two sectors of a minority gaming population. Basically, there is absolutely no reason CCP would want to ever cater to that kind of a demographic long term. There is hardly any profit in doing so, and holding your hand would be an exercise in frustration because it would **** off just about everyone else. Everything I just said was entirely pulled out of my ass by the way, but I can tell you are going to be secretly angry anyway. Now dance, puppet. Dance. Oh yeah? I'm right, you are wrong, stop arguing with me and take what I say as gospel, ttk is fine htfu, stop arguing with me. Stop forcing opinions on me and accept what I say, don't contradict yourseld. I'm joking, too much energy drink. Lol Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 81	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:39:00 - [52] - Quote ttk is fine, you can get a seconds worth of incoming fire on a std suit and you have to remember other people are always getting better stuff
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1260	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:42:00 - [53] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: ttk is fine, you can get a seconds worth of incoming fire on a std suit and you have to remember other people are always getting better stuff Have you read the thread? Best lube up sunshine. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 81	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:50:00 - [54] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: ttk is fine, you can get a seconds worth of incoming fire on a std suit and you have to remember other people are always getting better stuff Have you read the thread? Best lube up sunshine. all i see when people moan for the ttk to be increased are the vets who dont hold the gun/hp advantage anymore or people with bad expensive proto suits
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1260	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:54:00 - [55] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: ttk is fine, you can get a seconds worth of incoming fire on a std suit and you have to remember other people are always getting better stuff Have you read the thread? Best lube up sunshine. all i see when people moan for the ttk to be increased are the vets who dont hold the gun/hp advantage anymore or people with bad expensive proto suits All you see is bs, they are all decent players. When you get proto and you get dropped in a second making months of skilling seem pointless then come back. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Jungian Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 251	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:58:00 - [56] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: I do not understand why so many ppl whine about TTK. I am far from being a good shooter player but even I think it is fine. Considering one bullet can kill you IRL, surviving half a clip is nothing short of amazing. There is enough time to duck behind cover and regain yourself, if u are not out in the open, jacksturbating. What is an acceptable TTK to you whiners? 2 clips? 3 clips? What exactly to you want? You sound like you just want to stand on opposite sides of the map and just shoot until one side is outta ammo. Lets just leave it the way it is. Dont like it? Theres the jump gate. TTK is by far the most stupid terminology invented by the console generation. Its like they havent heard of skill. And in DUST, where people can customize their shields and armor to kingdom come? Makes it even more stupid.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 115	Posted - 2013.11.07 14:07:00 - [57] - Quote Ok, so let me see if I understand this correctly. 1. I think TTK is fine so I am an idiot. 2. I have a job, and I cannot have my mom bring me hot pockets while I play, so I am an entitled *******. 3. I tried pointing out that our suits can already take a ton of punishment by trying to use a real world example, so I am an idiot. 4. I think differently than the tryhards and the poopsockers, so I am an idiot and CCP does not care about me. 5. My opinion is not what you want it to be so I should go away or you'll just keep attacking me, baselessly. The fact of the matter is, TTK is solely a subjective thing. You cannot prove or disprove it because it is solely an opinion and my opinion is, its fine. BTW, I was referring to, in my OP, how fast I die, not how fast I kill others. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace


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