DUST Search - Why do people hate Shotguns?

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

8213 wrote:

In FPS people will always hate anything that is One-Hit-Kill. Because, the person dying feels like they never had a chance to even defend themselves, they are dead the same time they know they took damage.
Its kind of like the one line from the movie Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World, the guy had a very powerful tranquilizer gun, and he said "don't shoot yourself in the foot, you'll be dead before you realized you had an accident..."

People think its not fair for something to kill them instantly, because there is no defense to it. People get mad at Forge Guns, Thale's, etc... But what they forget to realize is that they were dead before their opponent ever shot them. Because FPS is all about POSITION!

A guy using a shotgun has to work his butt off in order to get within killing range. If they get near you, then you're punishment is dying, because they out maneuvered you. You were out played, maybe you weren't out gunned, but they still out played you.

However, in DUST, the Shotgun is not a weapon that anyone should take seriously, so this whole thread is moot. . .

Someone has some competitive experience.

Best piece of advice I ever got for BF3.

"BF3 is really only 25% gun game. It's mostly a game of angles in all honesty. Think of it this way. No matter how good of a shot you are, it's hard to kill someone when they are perpendicular to you when the firefight starts. The flank is dangerous for a reason, you can be killed before you can react."

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Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3009	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:03:00 - [1] - Quote It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit. Raffle draw will be in 2-3 days Save General John Ripper!
Aseair The Immortal 514 14	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:05:00 - [2] - Quote That is literally the only reason. People don't like dying quickly. Can't really blame them, but rarely do they consider the skill necessary to get in close to an AR user in open terrain... Memento vos sunt immortales
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2289	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:06:00 - [3] - Quote Pretty much that but that argument is flawed anyway since people will always play up the sniper class saying it takes "skill" when it most games itll get you a kill just for shooting someone in the foot Personally I have no strong feelings on the shotgun either way Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 54	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:06:00 - [4] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit. That's why. Join me next time. I am the Horseless Headsman.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1154	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:08:00 - [5] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit. You get most of that hate in Death match games. Cause well, shotty+OHK+spread= low skill weapon. Now when playing objective game modes it's not so frowned upon.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 603	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:09:00 - [6] - Quote I don't. It's fun watching tiny pencil sticks try to get close to me and then run for their lives when they take a look and see that I'm running Mass Drivers Revive Repair Resupply & Team Spawn (It's what I do)
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3017	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:11:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: I don't. It's fun watching tiny pencil sticks try to get close to me and then run for their lives when they take a look and see that I'm running Mass Drivers Thats what I do. I run up on a guy, see an MD, go 'Oh ****! Cheese it!' Then I quickly run off. Because majority of the time, they'll usually bunnyhop and shoot their feet. Theres no way I can kill that! Raffle draw will be in 2-3 days Save General John Ripper!
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2237	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:15:00 - [8] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit. I hate snipers, not SG... u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1144	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:15:00 - [9] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Atiim wrote: I don't. It's fun watching tiny pencil sticks try to get close to me and then run for their lives when they take a look and see that I'm running Mass Drivers Thats what I do. I run up on a guy, see an MD, go 'Oh ****! Cheese it!' Then I quickly run off. Because majority of the time, they'll usually bunnyhop and shoot their feet. Theres no way I can kill that! They usually suicide by doing that . I know I have "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3017	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:16:00 - [10] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Atiim wrote: I don't. It's fun watching tiny pencil sticks try to get close to me and then run for their lives when they take a look and see that I'm running Mass Drivers Thats what I do. I run up on a guy, see an MD, go 'Oh ****! Cheese it!' Then I quickly run off. Because majority of the time, they'll usually bunnyhop and shoot their feet. Theres no way I can kill that! They usually suicide by doing that . I know I have But these guys are usually brick tankers, and I'm in a Scout suit. Raffle draw will be in 2-3 days Save General John Ripper!

Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 312	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:18:00 - [11] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit. You get most of that hate in Death match games. Cause well, shotty+OHK+spread= low skill weapon. Now when playing objective game modes it's not so frowned upon. When you let a shotgunner take you out in the open AND you have an AR? You deserve that.
Amarrian Desperado Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 71	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:21:00 - [12] - Quote Weapon that can kill a terrible fitting in one hit in an ideal situation, harmlessly whiffs past moving targets 50% of the time, and dissipates into an unpleasantly warm breeze past 10m = cheap unfair skill-less scrub weapon Weapon that sprays a constant long-range stream of facemelting DPS for as long as the trigger is held down = Elite and Honorable weapon for discerning and chivalrous knights
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 605	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:25:00 - [13] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Atiim wrote: I don't. It's fun watching tiny pencil sticks try to get close to me and then run for their lives when they take a look and see that I'm running Mass Drivers Thats what I do. I run up on a guy, see an MD, go 'Oh ****! Cheese it!' Then I quickly run off. Because majority of the time, they'll usually bunnyhop and shoot their feet. Theres no way I can kill that! They usually suicide by doing that . I know I have If you manage to make a direct hit, 9/10 times the splash damage will be negated. Revive Repair Resupply & Team Spawn (It's what I do)
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 687	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:37:00 - [14] - Quote Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1808	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:41:00 - [15] - Quote Most idiots hate anything that's not an AR or close to it, see this scrub above me for context. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 1 Tryhard Veteran
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1185	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:43:00 - [16] - Quote I hate the Shotguns because of the 6 months I had invested in them, only to have them perma-borked once Uprising came out. Gimme that respec and I'll never touch one again. Cheeseburgers.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1808	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:44:00 - [17] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I hate the Shotguns because of the 6 months I had invested in them, only to have them perma-borked once Uprising came out. Gimme that respec and I'll never touch one again. You know they're getting fixed tomorrow right? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 1 Tryhard Veteran
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4595	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:46:00 - [18] - Quote I enjoy fighting shotgunners, and I'm hoping tomorrow's fix will bring more of a challenge from them. It makes me think a little bit more and I still panic when I see a shotgunner pop out of nowhere. I don't often die to them, but they were great fun in Chromosome and I guess it's an old habit. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 776	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:47:00 - [19] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. Because soldiers never use shotguns? And Rednecks NEVER use rifles? Ignorant fool. Also, Adapt or Die. Don't hate on me for using a CQC weapon in CQC. Your AR isn't made for CQC, and you shouldn't have let me get that close. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
843 Epidemic 385	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:54:00 - [20] - Quote Everyone hates every weapon on this game I've not heard a single weapon that hasn't been bitched about. Even the humble scrambler pistol people find things to whine about. 843-BANE Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F Contact me here

8213 Grade No.2 519	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:03:00 - [21] - Quote In FPS people will always hate anything that is One-Hit-Kill. Because, the person dying feels like they never had a chance to even defend themselves, they are dead the same time they know they took damage. Its kind of like the one line from the movie Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World, the guy had a very powerful tranquilizer gun, and he said "don't shoot yourself in the foot, you'll be dead before you realized you had an accident..." People think its not fair for something to kill them instantly, because there is no defense to it. People get mad at Forge Guns, Thale's, etc... But what they forget to realize is that they were dead before their opponent ever shot them. Because FPS is all about POSITION! A guy using a shotgun has to work his butt off in order to get within killing range. If they get near you, then you're punishment is dying, because they out maneuvered you. You were out played, maybe you weren't out gunned, but they still out played you. However, in DUST, the Shotgun is not a weapon that anyone should take seriously, so this whole thread is moot. . .
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 776	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:08:00 - [22] - Quote 8213 wrote: In FPS people will always hate anything that is One-Hit-Kill. Because, the person dying feels like they never had a chance to even defend themselves, they are dead the same time they know they took damage. Its kind of like the one line from the movie Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World, the guy had a very powerful tranquilizer gun, and he said "don't shoot yourself in the foot, you'll be dead before you realized you had an accident..." People think its not fair for something to kill them instantly, because there is no defense to it. People get mad at Forge Guns, Thale's, etc... But what they forget to realize is that they were dead before their opponent ever shot them. Because FPS is all about POSITION! A guy using a shotgun has to work his butt off in order to get within killing range. If they get near you, then you're punishment is dying, because they out maneuvered you. You were out played, maybe you weren't out gunned, but they still out played you. However, in DUST, the Shotgun is not a weapon that anyone should take seriously, so this whole thread is moot. . . Someone has some competitive experience. Best piece of advice I ever got for BF3. "BF3 is really only 25% gun game. It's mostly a game of angles in all honesty. Think of it this way. No matter how good of a shot you are, it's hard to kill someone when they are perpendicular to you when the firefight starts. The flank is dangerous for a reason, you can be killed before you can react." I miss my BF3 buddies "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1146	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:13:00 - [23] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. I didn't know farmers used cyclotrons to fire bursts of plasma at trespassers "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
8213 Grade No.2 519	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:21:00 - [24] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: 8213 wrote: In FPS people will always hate anything that is One-Hit-Kill. Because, the person dying feels like they never had a chance to even defend themselves, they are dead the same time they know they took damage. Its kind of like the one line from the movie Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World, the guy had a very powerful tranquilizer gun, and he said "don't shoot yourself in the foot, you'll be dead before you realized you had an accident..." People think its not fair for something to kill them instantly, because there is no defense to it. People get mad at Forge Guns, Thale's, etc... But what they forget to realize is that they were dead before their opponent ever shot them. Because FPS is all about POSITION! A guy using a shotgun has to work his butt off in order to get within killing range. If they get near you, then you're punishment is dying, because they out maneuvered you. You were out played, maybe you weren't out gunned, but they still out played you. However, in DUST, the Shotgun is not a weapon that anyone should take seriously, so this whole thread is moot. . . Someone has some competitive experience. Best piece of advice I ever got for BF3. "BF3 is really only 25% gun game. It's mostly a game of angles in all honesty. Think of it this way. No matter how good of a shot you are, it's hard to kill someone when they are perpendicular to you when the firefight starts. The flank is dangerous for a reason, you can be killed before you can react." I miss my BF3 buddies Yes sir. I made a thread a while back talking about position, and it went over everybody's head, lol. Former Halo Pro.
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 315	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:45:00 - [25] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ***** rifle and act like a damn soldier. To bad I shot him in the abdomen with my shotgun and now I can give less of a **.
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 778	Posted - 2013.11.05 00:06:00 - [26] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ***** rifle and act like a damn soldier. To bad I shot him in the abdomen with my shotgun and now I can give less of a *. This guy is getting so much flak over that comment. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious"* -Sun Tzu
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 315	Posted - 2013.11.05 00:20:00 - [27] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. One more teehee........ :> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdhQWkTl1PQ
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 688	Posted - 2013.11.05 00:43:00 - [28] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Most idiots hate anything that's not an AR or close to it, see this scrub above me for context. And see this tard otherwise. Tanks, sniper rifles and SMGs junior. Lol, your corp is the poster child for scrubs. If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 688	Posted - 2013.11.05 00:48:00 - [29] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. Because soldiers never use shotguns? And Rednecks NEVER use rifles? Ignorant fool. Also, Adapt or Die. Don't hate on me for using a CQC weapon in CQC. Your AR isn't made for CQC, and you shouldn't have let me get that close. Still stands. Shotguns = hillbillies. Auto and semi-auto rifles = military. You are welcome to change that stereotype though if it hits too close to home. If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 688	Posted - 2013.11.05 00:49:00 - [30] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ***** rifle and act like a damn soldier. I didn't know farmers used cyclotrons to fire bursts of plasma at trespassers A shotgun is a shotgun. I'm sure if you give hillbillies a plasma shell they'd just love it sooo much more. BTW, did I mention I just love ***** with the young and liberal? Yes, I do. Political correctness is my b*tch. If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright

hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 156	Posted - 2013.11.05 00:55:00 - [31] - Quote I hate fighting shotguns but I don't hate shotgunners, now snipers I hate, when you take little risk with a weapon its not a skill weapon, shot guns on the other hand, and its not like dust has the insane autoshottys that other games do. A lot of new shooter players think that balance means every weapon is the same. snipers get less hate becuase you can hide from them and are an easy kill in range, shotguns on the other hand are terrifying in cqc, and when you are distracted by another fire fight, or to put it another way shot gunners dominate the "normal" guns in their own range, snipers don't, of course cqc isn't the domain of "normal" guns but for some reason a lot of gamers think that ARs should be the best gun in its entire range and that the only thing that should beat it is an other AR or rifle.
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 781	Posted - 2013.11.05 03:15:00 - [32] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. Because soldiers never use shotguns? And Rednecks NEVER use rifles? Ignorant fool. Also, Adapt or Die. Don't hate on me for using a CQC weapon in CQC. Your AR isn't made for CQC, and you shouldn't have let me get that close. Still stands. Shotguns = hillbillies. Auto and semi-auto rifles = military. You are welcome to change that stereotype though if it hits too close to home. So, is the term Military-Grade Shotgun an oxymoron to you? I'm pretty sure the Spas-12 disagree's with it's classification as a Hillbilly weapon. Also, does this make my .22 rifle a military grade weapon? Note that in the second paragraph this rifle is mainly used for hunting rabbits and prairie dogs. Thats some military grade weaponry right there. The only moron I see here is you. Carry on. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Cosgar ParagonX 7269	Posted - 2013.11.05 03:21:00 - [33] - Quote This is why I hate the modern military FPS sub-genre. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 311	Posted - 2013.11.05 03:29:00 - [34] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit. I hate snipers, not SG... Forge Guns... Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1190	Posted - 2013.11.05 06:20:00 - [35] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Rynoceros wrote: I hate the Shotguns because of the 6 months I had invested in them, only to have them perma-borked once Uprising came out. Gimme that respec and I'll never touch one again. You know they're getting fixed tomorrow right? Yeah, but they've been ****** for so long that I probably couldn't remember how to run one properly. I gave up on it. Got tired of dying when I had a drop and 2 headshots on these chumps. I'm deep into Heavies now, and with the Market expanding and another respec coming, I'm not going to 'waste' another gK.0 on that build and Shotguns won't see another drop of SP. Good luck, can't wait to hear how it goes. Cheeseburgers.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 688	Posted - 2013.11.05 06:31:00 - [36] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. Because soldiers never use shotguns? And Rednecks NEVER use rifles? Ignorant fool. Also, Adapt or Die. Don't hate on me for using a CQC weapon in CQC. Your AR isn't made for CQC, and you shouldn't have let me get that close. Still stands. Shotguns = hillbillies. Auto and semi-auto rifles = military. You are welcome to change that stereotype though if it hits too close to home. So, is the term Military-Grade Shotgun an oxymoron to you? I'm pretty sure the Spas-12 disagree's with it's classification as a Hillbilly weapon. Also, does this make my .22 rifle a military grade weapon? Note that in the second paragraph this rifle is mainly used for hunting rabbits and prairie dogs. Thats some military grade weaponry right there. The only moron I see here is you. Carry on. My God you take things too seriously. I made a joke as I often do while trolling the forums and you took the bait hook, line and sinker. But keep on though, I need the entertainment. I could troll this all week. I'd like to apologize. I didn't know you were an actual hillbilly. Lol, prairie dogs. Really? Damn man you must be starving. Bag a buck and feed the whole family for a week easy. If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 900	Posted - 2013.11.05 06:37:00 - [37] - Quote Players hate Shotguns because they hide behind the redline and 1-2HKO you from 400m away while you're sitting in an outhouse taking a ****. Oh, wait, that's Sniper Rifles. Carry on. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1829	Posted - 2013.11.05 06:39:00 - [38] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Most idiots hate anything that's not an AR or close to it, see this scrub above me for context. And see this tard otherwise. Tanks, sniper rifles and SMGs junior. Lol, your corp is the poster child for scrubs. Yes sir, any and all tools are welcome to the ranks from remote explosives to H.A.V.s you just need to be one who can play well with others and adjust to different tactics and styles on the field. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 1 Tryhard Veteran
Eris Ernaga DUST University Ivy League 643	Posted - 2013.11.05 06:46:00 - [39] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit. Call of duty 4 shotgun don't understand why I am really getting back in to only now in Dust it's an amazing gun. Ba bang baby
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 63	Posted - 2013.11.05 06:50:00 - [40] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit. people dont like being OHK when the wepaon basically requires you to be in peoples faces. the shotgun just punishes them for being carless in letting you get behind/front of them and killing them in 1 shot. perfectly balanced if you ask me. (only problem i have witht eh shot gun is the hit detection) had a guy 2m in front of me standing still. pulled trigger. no damge went throguh.

Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 786	Posted - 2013.11.05 07:00:00 - [41] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. Because soldiers never use shotguns? And Rednecks NEVER use rifles? Ignorant fool. Also, Adapt or Die. Don't hate on me for using a CQC weapon in CQC. Your AR isn't made for CQC, and you shouldn't have let me get that close. Still stands. Shotguns = hillbillies. Auto and semi-auto rifles = military. You are welcome to change that stereotype though if it hits too close to home. So, is the term Military-Grade Shotgun an oxymoron to you? I'm pretty sure the Spas-12 disagree's with it's classification as a Hillbilly weapon. Also, does this make my .22 rifle a military grade weapon? Note that in the second paragraph this rifle is mainly used for hunting rabbits and prairie dogs. Thats some military grade weaponry right there. The only moron I see here is you. Carry on. My God you take things too seriously. I made a joke as I often do while trolling the forums and you took the bait hook, line and sinker. But keep on though, I need the entertainment. I could troll this all week. I'd like to apologize. I didn't know you were an actual hillbilly. Lol, prairie dogs. Really? Damn man you must be starving. Bag a buck and feed the whole family for a week easy. Good to know that you are at least trying to be stupid. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 688	Posted - 2013.11.05 07:04:00 - [42] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Good to know that you are at least trying to be stupid. Lol, still nothing but name calling. I love you. I want to lick you! If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 671	Posted - 2013.11.05 07:31:00 - [43] - Quote I killed a shotgunner with a Breach Flaylock yesterday. He charged me, took two in the face, dropped like a rock. Poor scout never saw it coming. I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.
Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 327	Posted - 2013.11.05 08:48:00 - [44] - Quote To understand this, put yourself in the mindset of the 99% who have pooled everything into ARs and shields/armour. They are used to a very simple and reliable way of playing. Point at enemy, and hold button until they've won. To them it's a simple game of numbers. They have played longer, and have more numbers, so they win. Shotguns and other higher damage/less reliability weapons are the upsetters. The things that ruin their KD/R, use up their suits, and make them feel briefly like they maybe didn't choose the Best Option. You've probably played with them. It's the same guys who get legitimately mad every time they die, and will blame everything up to and including the direction of the wind before they admit they were at fault. Not necessary if autoaim enabled
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 268	Posted - 2013.11.05 09:14:00 - [45] - Quote Snaps Tremor wrote: To understand this, put yourself in the mindset of the 99% who have pooled everything into ARs and shields/armour. They are used to a very simple and reliable way of playing. Point at enemy, and hold button until they've won. To them it's a simple game of numbers. They have played longer, and have more numbers, so they win. Shotguns and other higher damage/less reliability weapons are the upsetters. The things that ruin their KD/R, use up their suits, and make them feel briefly like they maybe didn't choose the Best Option. You've probably played with them. It's the same guys who get legitimately mad every time they die, and will blame everything up to and including the direction of the wind before they admit they were at fault. Not necessary if autoaim enabled The AR scrubs live in a fantasy world thinking the AR is the worlds most effective and powerfull infantry weapon instead of the mass produced standard scrub weapon it is. I mean the HMG in dust514 is so nerfed that it would be more deadly if you'd be able to throw it at people rather than shooting them. The shotgun, forgegun, sniper rifle and even the HMG should be able to OHK people with ease.


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