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hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.11.05 00:55:00 -
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I hate fighting shotguns but I don't hate shotgunners, now snipers I hate, when you take little risk with a weapon its not a skill weapon, shot guns on the other hand, and its not like dust has the insane autoshottys that other games do. A lot of new shooter players think that balance means every weapon is the same.
snipers get less hate becuase you can hide from them and are an easy kill in range, shotguns on the other hand are terrifying in cqc, and when you are distracted by another fire fight,
or to put it another way shot gunners dominate the "normal" guns in their own range, snipers don't, of course cqc isn't the domain of "normal" guns but for some reason a lot of gamers think that ARs should be the best gun in its entire range and that the only thing that should beat it is an other AR or rifle. |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
781
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Posted - 2013.11.05 03:15:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. Because soldiers never use shotguns? And Rednecks NEVER use rifles? Ignorant fool. Also, Adapt or Die. Don't hate on me for using a CQC weapon in CQC. Your AR isn't made for CQC, and you shouldn't have let me get that close. Still stands. Shotguns = hillbillies. Auto and semi-auto rifles = military. You are welcome to change that stereotype though if it hits too close to home.
So, is the term Military-Grade Shotgun an oxymoron to you? I'm pretty sure the Spas-12 disagree's with it's classification as a Hillbilly weapon.
Also, does this make my .22 rifle a military grade weapon? Note that in the second paragraph this rifle is mainly used for hunting rabbits and prairie dogs. Thats some military grade weaponry right there.
The only moron I see here is you. Carry on.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Cosgar
ParagonX
7269
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Posted - 2013.11.05 03:21:00 -
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This is why I hate the modern military FPS sub-genre.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
311
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Posted - 2013.11.05 03:29:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit. I hate snipers, not SG...
Forge Guns...
Director (Management)
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1190
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:20:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Rynoceros wrote:I hate the Shotguns because of the 6 months I had invested in them, only to have them perma-borked once Uprising came out. Gimme that respec and I'll never touch one again. You know they're getting fixed tomorrow right?
Yeah, but they've been ****** for so long that I probably couldn't remember how to run one properly. I gave up on it. Got tired of dying when I had a drop and 2 headshots on these chumps. I'm deep into Heavies now, and with the Market expanding and another respec coming, I'm not going to 'waste' another gK.0 on that build and Shotguns won't see another drop of SP.
Good luck, can't wait to hear how it goes.
Cheeseburgers.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
688
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:31:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. Because soldiers never use shotguns? And Rednecks NEVER use rifles? Ignorant fool. Also, Adapt or Die. Don't hate on me for using a CQC weapon in CQC. Your AR isn't made for CQC, and you shouldn't have let me get that close. Still stands. Shotguns = hillbillies. Auto and semi-auto rifles = military. You are welcome to change that stereotype though if it hits too close to home. So, is the term Military-Grade Shotgun an oxymoron to you? I'm pretty sure the Spas-12 disagree's with it's classification as a Hillbilly weapon. Also, does this make my .22 rifle a military grade weapon? Note that in the second paragraph this rifle is mainly used for hunting rabbits and prairie dogs. Thats some military grade weaponry right there. The only moron I see here is you. Carry on.
My God you take things too seriously. I made a joke as I often do while trolling the forums and you took the bait hook, line and sinker. But keep on though, I need the entertainment. I could troll this all week. I'd like to apologize. I didn't know you were an actual hillbilly. Lol, prairie dogs. Really? Damn man you must be starving. Bag a buck and feed the whole family for a week easy.
If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen!
-Steven Wright
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
900
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:37:00 -
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Players hate Shotguns because they hide behind the redline and 1-2HKO you from 400m away while you're sitting in an outhouse taking a ****.
Oh, wait, that's Sniper Rifles. Carry on.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1829
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:39:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Most idiots hate anything that's not an AR or close to it, see this scrub above me for context. And see this tard otherwise. Tanks, sniper rifles and SMGs junior. Lol, your corp is the poster child for scrubs. Yes sir, any and all tools are welcome to the ranks from remote explosives to H.A.V.s you just need to be one who can play well with others and adjust to different tactics and styles on the field.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
Tryhard Veteran
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Eris Ernaga
DUST University Ivy League
643
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:46:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit.
Call of duty 4 shotgun don't understand why I am really getting back in to only now in Dust it's an amazing gun.
Ba bang baby
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
63
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:50:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:It happens in other games too, I remember being kicked from BF3 servers for using a Shotgun. Why do people hate them so much? The usual reply I get, is that they can kill in one hit.
people dont like being OHK when the wepaon basically requires you to be in peoples faces.
the shotgun just punishes them for being carless in letting you get behind/front of them and killing them in 1 shot. perfectly balanced if you ask me.
(only problem i have witht eh shot gun is the hit detection) had a guy 2m in front of me standing still. pulled trigger. no damge went throguh. |
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
786
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Posted - 2013.11.05 07:00:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Maybe because it has too much of that country, redneck scrub vibe about it. Pigs and hillbillies use shotguns. Get a ******* rifle and act like a damn soldier. Because soldiers never use shotguns? And Rednecks NEVER use rifles? Ignorant fool. Also, Adapt or Die. Don't hate on me for using a CQC weapon in CQC. Your AR isn't made for CQC, and you shouldn't have let me get that close. Still stands. Shotguns = hillbillies. Auto and semi-auto rifles = military. You are welcome to change that stereotype though if it hits too close to home. So, is the term Military-Grade Shotgun an oxymoron to you? I'm pretty sure the Spas-12 disagree's with it's classification as a Hillbilly weapon. Also, does this make my .22 rifle a military grade weapon? Note that in the second paragraph this rifle is mainly used for hunting rabbits and prairie dogs. Thats some military grade weaponry right there. The only moron I see here is you. Carry on. My God you take things too seriously. I made a joke as I often do while trolling the forums and you took the bait hook, line and sinker. But keep on though, I need the entertainment. I could troll this all week. I'd like to apologize. I didn't know you were an actual hillbilly. Lol, prairie dogs. Really? Damn man you must be starving. Bag a buck and feed the whole family for a week easy.
Good to know that you are at least trying to be stupid.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
688
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Posted - 2013.11.05 07:04:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:
Good to know that you are at least trying to be stupid.
Lol, still nothing but name calling. I love you. I want to lick you!
If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen!
-Steven Wright
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
671
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Posted - 2013.11.05 07:31:00 -
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I killed a shotgunner with a Breach Flaylock yesterday. He charged me, took two in the face, dropped like a rock. Poor scout never saw it coming.
I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.
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Snaps Tremor
DUST University Ivy League
327
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Posted - 2013.11.05 08:48:00 -
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To understand this, put yourself in the mindset of the 99% who have pooled everything into ARs and shields/armour. They are used to a very simple and reliable way of playing. Point at enemy*, and hold button until they've won. To them it's a simple game of numbers. They have played longer, and have more numbers, so they win. Shotguns and other higher damage/less reliability weapons are the upsetters. The things that ruin their KD/R, use up their suits, and make them feel briefly like they maybe didn't choose the Best Option.
You've probably played with them. It's the same guys who get legitimately mad every time they die, and will blame everything up to and including the direction of the wind before they admit they were at fault.
* Not necessary if autoaim enabled |
Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
268
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:14:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:To understand this, put yourself in the mindset of the 99% who have pooled everything into ARs and shields/armour. They are used to a very simple and reliable way of playing. Point at enemy*, and hold button until they've won. To them it's a simple game of numbers. They have played longer, and have more numbers, so they win. Shotguns and other higher damage/less reliability weapons are the upsetters. The things that ruin their KD/R, use up their suits, and make them feel briefly like they maybe didn't choose the Best Option.
You've probably played with them. It's the same guys who get legitimately mad every time they die, and will blame everything up to and including the direction of the wind before they admit they were at fault.
* Not necessary if autoaim enabled
The AR scrubs live in a fantasy world thinking the AR is the worlds most effective and powerfull infantry weapon instead of the mass produced standard scrub weapon it is. I mean the HMG in dust514 is so nerfed that it would be more deadly if you'd be able to throw it at people rather than shooting them. The shotgun, forgegun, sniper rifle and even the HMG should be able to OHK people with ease. |
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