So can we admit that a pretty sizeable amount of people want respecs? Vets can shout and scream till they go blue that one should just deal with it, but the masses want respecs, and respecs aren't being provided. the next best thing someone can do about it is grind from the start or using pretty bad skills, OR not play and rely on passive skills until they feel they have enough to go into something else.

Now for the average 'Gamer' (I'm using this term loosely here), I'm thinking that they would rather go with the latter. Why waste their time doing something which they don't enjoy, when they can just wait a while and get into a better position and do something else they enjoy?

My solution with basically speed up the process that the latter choice gives by... siphoning skill points.

If you have a skill that you don't use, and becomes redundant, and theres another skill you do want, why not just siphon off the time put into the unwanted skill and put it into another. This process would take time, and could be reduced by boosters sold on the market.

Why not?

Please read the sticky thread covering the weekly feedback that CCP is looking into. CCP might (I stress MIGHT) consider implementing a "Skill-Back Booster" that does exactly what you suggest. However, it disables passive SP gains while active. Which means you lose any chance to gain NEW SP while trying to siphon OLD SP that you already have and it takes time (spanning a few days at least).

the people that don't want anyone to have respecs are the advocates of extremely small player counts so they don't have much competition.

People that want respecs are advocates of high player counts that fall off quickly and then move on to the next new game.

How's that for making up 'facts'?

[SUGGESTION] Skillback booster https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=86041&find=unread
Update: An intriguing idea that the dev team will discuss further.

Now why do you think they move onto other games? I personally when I see a fault with something I don't use it, and this game has a fault of not having much flexibility.

People that want respecs are advocates of high player counts that fall off quickly and then move on to the next new game.

How's that for making up 'facts'?

You can do anything that you want as long as you train into it. Where is this lack of flexibility?

You can do anything that you want as long as you train into it. Where is this lack of flexibility?

that's what happened here, a large playerbase came, tried it out, couldn't do anything else because they couldn't get more SP or couldn't get respecs, so they quit.

its the time, it takes too long for someone to get the equipment they want, thus people leave... if it was easier say less SP sinks then people would probably stay instead of going to other games that give them what they want within a reasonable timeframe.

Now why do you think they move onto other games? I personally when I see a fault with something I don't use it, and this game has a fault of not having much flexibility.

Right that is the reason people quit this game....

One thing I like to point out is that there is a slight possibility that we might get one more respec from CCP considering the following:

1. Vehicles and the skills related to them are getting a complete overhaul. See the stickies above for details.
2. According to CCP @ Eve Vegas 2013, more racial suits like the Amarr Scout or Caldari Scout might be coming in 1.7.
3. Weapons and the skills related to them are also getting a complete overhaul. See the stickies above for details.
4. 1.7 has been confirmed to be the biggest content update in a long time which might also include new maps.

That said, it seems CCP might give us one more respec. But don't quote me on that.

This. It takes too damn long to do anything in this game, and theres no real way to tell if a skill is a good idea.

Please read the sticky thread covering the weekly feedback that CCP is looking into. CCP might (I stress MIGHT) consider implementing a "Skill-Back Booster" that does exactly what you suggest. However, it disables passive SP gains while active. Which means you lose any chance to gain NEW SP while trying to siphon OLD SP that you already have and it takes time (spanning a few days at least).

If I think that Gallante sound pretty sweet, but I don't have the money to test them out with auram, what am I gonna do? Well, skill into them. Once I skill into them, and realize that I don't work well wiht them and want to test out Minmatar, I've got to fight and earn those skill points again. Well no, I might as well use my passive ability and just leave the game for a while.

So can we admit that a pretty sizeable amount of people want respecs? Vets can shout and scream till they go blue that one should just deal with it, but the masses want respecs, and respecs aren't being provided. the next best thing someone can do about it is grind from the start or using pretty bad skills, OR not play and rely on passive skills until they feel they have enough to go into something else.

Now for the average 'Gamer' (I'm using this term loosely here), I'm thinking that they would rather go with the latter. Why waste their time doing something which they don't enjoy, when they can just wait a while and get into a better position and do something else they enjoy?

My solution would be basically speeding up the latter choice... siphoning skill points.

If you have a skill that you don't use, and becomes redundant, and theres another skill you do want, why not just siphon off the time put into the unwanted skill and put it into another. This process would take time, and could be reduced by boosters sold on the market.

Why not?