From here in reference to the BPOs from the second decade edition.

So what lies were you trying to perpetrate again?

No RESTOCKING OR REPLACEMENT

Here is an excerpt from their manual




Found here

I think the best part about this argument is, that the people that have multiples of BPOs are also the people that roll out in full proto for every pub match.

Just because the BPO has a Bill of Materials, does not mean it isn't inexhaustible. You never lose the BPO, you simply need to feed it with the right stuff to make more of the item.

Never need to restock the BPO unless you want to run more concurrent manufacturing lines.

BPOs by nature are inexhaustible, otherwise they would be BPCs.

I can do this ... and have... but I love my bpo fits too

The removal of BPOs is good for the growth of the game.

Currently payouts in pub matches are based on ISK lost meaning BPOS are making it tough for new players to move up the ladder without running out of ISK due to ****** payouts in pub matches. Sure, I would rather not see them go either but as long as they dont fux with the ones in my inventory then I am fine with it. As new players who do not have BPOs move into the game ISK payouts in pub matches will grow making it easier for those same players to level up to better equipment leading to more useful salvage as well.

Making players more likely to want to get to higher equipment is good for us and good for CCP.


And as far as the math of it not hurting the economy, lets say a player running a dragonfly suit and toxin AR dies 10 times.

With the BPOs he loses 35k isk thanks to the basic modules and side arms in those 10 deaths.
Without BPOs that number could easily be 70k isk in those 10 deaths.

Take 10 total players in a pub match that average out to those numbers and automatically you have 350k more isk in the prize pool at the end of the match. That can easily mean 30k more isk per match for the top 5 players on a team who then have that money to buy one more advanced suit per match, which then grows the isk pool even more until the point where even the players at the bottom of the losing team are seeing significant increases in their payouts.

The removal of BPOs is good for the growth of the game.

Currently payouts in pub matches are based on ISK lost meaning BPOS are making it tough for new players to move up the ladder without running out of ISK due to ****** payouts in pub matches. Sure, I would rather not see them go either but as long as they dont fux with the ones in my inventory then I am fine with it. As new players who do not have BPOs move into the game ISK payouts in pub matches will grow making it easier for those same players to level up to better equipment leading to more useful salvage as well.

Making players more likely to want to get to higher equipment is good for us and good for CCP.


And as far as the math of it not hurting the economy, lets say a player running a dragonfly suit and toxin AR dies 10 times.

With the BPOs he loses 35k isk thanks to the basic modules and side arms in those 10 deaths.
Without BPOs that number could easily be 70k isk in those 10 deaths.

Take 10 total players in a pub match that average out to those numbers and automatically you have 350k more isk in the prize pool at the end of the match. That can easily mean 30k more isk per match for the top 5 players on a team who then have that money to buy one more advanced suit per match, which then grows the isk pool even more until the point where even the players at the bottom of the losing team are seeing significant increases in their payouts.

my point is most people who don't like dust bpos sight an economic impact.... the fact is they wont have ANY impact in the long term.

eve t2 bpos had tremendous impact at first and still do for a very lucky few but the eve economy is still intact.... dust bpos cant even compare to this, so why remove them....

the only real answer ive heard so far is "because I don't like them"

and that's just not good enough for those of us who payed real $$for them.

but ill compromise with you.... ccp can remove/change them if the people like you who call for their removal pay us back our money. fair?

lol @ good for growth of the game...

I have almost every bpo... I still spend about 30 mil a week on fits because none of them are adv or proto.

your logic is shot down.

Well I didn't use an economic argument, I stated they don't fit consistently in the EVE universe. Now please enlighten me as to how they do, without shouting "because I ******* paid for them and thats how they should stay". I also support full aurum refund for all items when they are eventually are removed, because I ******* paid for them lol. I just want consistency in the universe, not to rob you of items.

Now here is my prediction, ALL ITEMS WILL BE LOCKED TO CHARACTERS ONCE P2P MARKET IS OPEN. This is the only way we can eventually merge the markets. We cannot have one BPO that does one thing, and another that does the same thing but has no material cost if used by a Dust toon. So abandon all your hope of making a ton of isk by selling your BPO's, as I assume this is why you don't want to see them removed, that isn't going to happen per my prediction.

You are the only player of this game, therefore my logic does not work.
Thanks for the correction, I always forget to account for that one guy the universe I live in revolves around when talking.

Well I didn't use an economic argument, I stated they don't fit consistently in the EVE universe. Now please enlighten me as to how they do, without shouting "because I ******* paid for them and thats how they should stay". I also support full aurum refund for all items when they are eventually are removed, because I ******* paid for them lol. I just want consistency in the universe, not to rob you of items.

Now here is my prediction, ALL ITEMS WILL BE LOCKED TO CHARACTERS ONCE P2P MARKET IS OPEN. This is the only way we can eventually merge the markets. We cannot have one BPO that does one thing, and another that does the same thing but has no material cost if used by a Dust toon. So abandon all your hope of making a ton of isk by selling your BPO's, as I assume this is why you don't want to see them removed, that isn't going to happen per my prediction.