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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:03:00 -
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T2 BPOs were a good bit more game breaking than current BPOs.
If you were smart enough to run some R&D agents in the beginning, you had a good chance to get an in-game item that could ensure that Eve became a free-to-play game for the rest of time. These were isk printing machines for the (at-the-time) most expensive ships in the game. Some of these items are so insanely good that you can still expect someone to pay the equivalent of $2,000+ (80 bil isk) for them.
CCP left those in-game. |
Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.03 21:58:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:CCP already said we are keeping the ones we own.
but to clarify why the ones people own can stay,
learn about T2 BPOs in EVE
you will then understand why our BPOs can remain untouched without it effecting the greater economy of new eden.
years from now only a handful of people will own them and their impact will be minimal.
end of discussion. Doesn't change the fact that BPOs in Dust are nothing like Eve ones, exactly what am I using to make all these suits and LAV's. They are literally manufactured by toons with no skill to do so, using no resources. They may be tied to characters, but they still don't make any sense. You can say all you want about T2 they still required resources, they can still be copied but we can also make copies of them now too so who cares. I don't care if they stay in but I would at least like them to make sense in the larger scale of the game...
Your right, eve BPOs were given out for free in a subscription model game, Dust BPOs were paid items that were bought for real life money.
Anyway, the argument that they have a economic impact is laughable compared to what T2 BPOs have done and continue to do to Eve. |
Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.04 00:33:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:but don't change what I already bought Even though I agreed to the terms and conditions that said they can.
You know a EULA can not make you give up your actual legal rights don't you? Just do a google search for judges throwing out EULAs.
What you claim is that if I bought lets say, The Last of Us DLC, and then Sony suddenly changed their mind and removed that DLC, that would be cool?
Seriously, stop crying. People payed real life money for a product advertised as a PERMANENT ITEM that doesn't go away when you die. Blame CCP for thier short-sightedness not the people who payed money to help keep this free game free. |
Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.04 01:30:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:
I have a complete set of BPO's, I don't remember seeing anything about "no strings attached"
a bill of materials would lend consistency too, it is already a precedent set in New Eden.
CCP wrote:
These EVE: The Second Decade Collector's Edition Items are permanent gear, requiring no restocking or replacement.
From here in reference to the BPOs from the second decade edition.
So what lies were you trying to perpetrate again?
No RESTOCKING OR REPLACEMENT |
Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.04 05:56:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Kal Kronos wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:CCP already said we are keeping the ones we own.
but to clarify why the ones people own can stay,
learn about T2 BPOs in EVE
you will then understand why our BPOs can remain untouched without it effecting the greater economy of new eden.
years from now only a handful of people will own them and their impact will be minimal.
end of discussion. Doesn't change the fact that BPOs in Dust are nothing like Eve ones, exactly what am I using to make all these suits and LAV's. They are literally manufactured by toons with no skill to do so, using no resources. They may be tied to characters, but they still don't make any sense. You can say all you want about T2 they still required resources, they can still be copied be we can also make copies of them now too so who cares. I don't care if they stay in but I would at least like them to make sense in the larger scale of the game... my point is most people who don't like dust bpos sight an economic impact.... the fact is they wont have ANY impact in the long term. eve t2 bpos had tremendous impact at first and still do for a very lucky few but the eve economy is still intact.... dust bpos cant even compare to this, so why remove them.... the only real answer ive heard so far is "because I don't like them" and that's just not good enough for those of us who payed real $$for them. but ill compromise with you.... ccp can remove/change them if the people like you who call for their removal pay us back our money. fair? Well I didn't use an economic argument, I stated they don't fit consistently in the EVE universe. Now please enlighten me as to how they do, without shouting "because I ******* paid for them and thats how they should stay". I also support full aurum refund for all items when they are eventually are removed, because I ******* paid for them lol. I just want consistency in the universe, not to rob you of items. Now here is my prediction, ALL ITEMS WILL BE LOCKED TO CHARACTERS ONCE P2P MARKET IS OPEN. This is the only way we can eventually merge the markets. We cannot have one BPO that does one thing, and another that does the same thing but has no material cost if used by a Dust toon. So abandon all your hope of making a ton of isk by selling your BPO's, as I assume this is why you don't want to see them removed, that isn't going to happen per my prediction.
Personally, I am just fine with locking BPOs to characters. I do not recall CCP ever saying that there would be a BPO market, so I would not be that pissed.
For the record I have 3x assualt C-1 and 3x AR BPOs and 2x Sentinel A-1 BPOs... so it is not like I do not have a horse in that race. |
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