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ThePlayerkyle13
D3LTA ACADEMY
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:11:00 -
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CCP should give us an option to Respec our Character after Uprising 1.7, considering they are doing a s*it ton of tweaking on weapons, armour, vehicles, Equipment, Modules etc, they even adding new weapons in the game. Now most of you will hate the Respec option, but wouldn't you hate it if you spent all your SP on lets say for example... AR & Logistics Amarr Armour & CCP nerfed the heck out of it (remember it's an example & not fact), you'll definitely be upset about it, & your Character will be a brick a useless one & you'll be demanding a Respec from CCP, now since it optional you don't have to respec your character, in fact they still got a Respect Ticket on their Official Page https://dust514.com/user/help-tickets/ & yesterday I've asked them if they'll be another one or if it was a one time offer & this is what they said.
"Hi,
Unfortunately the skill point respec was a one-time only offer and no plans has been made about a second one. I suggest you to keep an eye on the official channels such as Forum and Website, for further information.
Should you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again."
Although he/she said it's an one time offer, but then telling me to keep a close eye on the forums for any news on it, meaning they'll another one when the time is right...
What do you guys think about this??
Leave your thoughts below, Peace... |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:13:00 -
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If they nerf the Amarr Logi I will quit :D
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:14:00 -
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Say NO to FOTM chasers! |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
2553
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:15:00 -
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I don't know about complete respec but I know they will re-allocate your SP spent into vehicles.
Use this 3x SP event to store up some SP for 1.7.
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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Kaughst
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:15:00 -
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Keep watching the forums...and don't look away.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1384
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:15:00 -
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If they nerf my amarr logi after they take out my Incubus, I'm seriously going to rage.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
The Scourge.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:17:00 -
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im tired of this respec crap.
just because you were killed by some weapon (example:assault rife) over 1000 times.
and decided you dont like what you skilled into.
dosnt mean they should give you a respec. (even if content is removed TEMPORARILY)
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
963
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:19:00 -
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Odds are strong that we will get a respec once the new dropsuits hit, also likely with the massive vehicle changes. (Assuming they don't come at the same time.)
CCP made some oblique references to this when talking about it at EVE Vegas. It isn't a guarantee. They could change their minds or decide not to.
But I think it's in the back of their thoughts, and that there's a good chance it'll happen.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Cult of War
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:21:00 -
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You have no definite list of what is coming in 1.7 for all we know it is 2 new weapons and some vehicle buffs. Both of which do not require a respec, when a new content comes out you should train into it not get instant access through respec.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:24:00 -
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Respec will happen, too many sweeping changes not to.
With the addition, removal, and changes to CORE skills, it would be impossible to say our decisions meant anything when everything gets shuffled around again. Just look at the new Turret skills, if you don't believe respecs are needed in light of these changes then you don't understand how this game works.
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ThePlayerkyle13
D3LTA ACADEMY
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:24:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:You have no definite list of what is coming in 1.7 for all we know it is 2 new weapons and some vehicle buffs. Both of which do not require a respec, when a new content comes out you should train into it not get instant access through respec.
i was talking about both 1.6 & 1.7 combined, i know theirs going to be tank buffs & Glitches/bug fixes, but what about infantry? what do they get to defeat these unstoppable tanks? |
Scheherazade VII
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:26:00 -
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Yes please. I will still stay logi but I need to be able to upgrade core skills, biotic upgrades, shield, all the base stat upgrades.
then i can get out of sniper and armour and all this other crap I wasted SP on.
Got 10.5m SP now, should be enough to create a nice logi/assault loadout with.
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TuFar Gon
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
37
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:33:00 -
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Everytime ccp mentions new content someone is screaming "respec" NO RESPEC PLEEEZ. All of u screaming for respec r just a bunch of FOTM gamers constantly seeking the next op item. CCP IS GIVING U PLENTY OF TIME TO SAVE SP. A whole month to b factual. Simply cant wait to hear all the boo-hoo's when they dont give the respec,,,,,,,,Mwah-ah-ah-aahh!!! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
7390
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:36:00 -
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TuFar Gon wrote:Everytime ccp mentions new content someone is screaming "respec" NO RESPEC PLEEEZ. All of u screaming for respec r just a bunch of FOTM gamers constantly seeking the next op item. CCP IS GIVING U PLENTY OF TIME TO SAVE SP. A whole month to b factual. Simply cant wait to hear all the boo-hoo's when they dont give the respec,,,,,,,,Mwah-ah-ah-aahh!!!
FoTM callers are the most naive members of these forums
CORE skills are CORE skills. Changing, adding, and removing them changes everything.
I'm not going to argue this because it's simple, all you have to do is look at the proposed changes and use your brain to see that many past fits, particularly for vehicles, will not only be altered, they will be gone. Nevermind what's being added; vast amounts of turret skills, new turret functionality, new mandatory vehicle skills, possible new vehicles.
It's not FoTM.
It's people wanting their time and money to actually mean something.
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
2554
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:36:00 -
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TuFar Gon wrote:Everytime ccp mentions new content someone is screaming "respec" NO RESPEC PLEEEZ. All of u screaming for respec r just a bunch of FOTM gamers constantly seeking the next op item. CCP IS GIVING U PLENTY OF TIME TO SAVE SP. A whole month to b factual. Simply cant wait to hear all the boo-hoo's when they dont give the respec,,,,,,,,Mwah-ah-ah-aahh!!!
vehicle SP does need to be refunded though. Just not dropsuit skills.
The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
The Ascendancy
603
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:40:00 -
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HOW could they not give a respec they are removing logi lavs entirely from the game the skills as well..so the sp that was dedicated to that is what lost?
they have to give a respec they dont this game will die 1.7 |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
The Ascendancy
603
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:41:00 -
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a vehicle respec is a must |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
The Ascendancy
603
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:42:00 -
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TuFar Gon wrote:Everytime ccp mentions new content someone is screaming "respec" NO RESPEC PLEEEZ. All of u screaming for respec r just a bunch of FOTM gamers constantly seeking the next op item. CCP IS GIVING U PLENTY OF TIME TO SAVE SP. A whole month to b factual. Simply cant wait to hear all the boo-hoo's when they dont give the respec,,,,,,,,Mwah-ah-ah-aahh!!!
your a fool they are removing aspects from the game entirely people could lose millions of lifetime sp if they dont respec anyone who has a logi lav would lose sp if it were refunded they cannot do that they cannot take away something from the game entirely and not return the sp |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
1949
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:51:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:True Adamance wrote:Zion Shad wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:[quote=Zion Shad]DUST Faction Warfare.... ... Respec's are coming back but it will be limited, optional and a cost attached to it What do you know!?! We spoke on them during the round table in Vegas and it's just what I said. So it could be something AUR Bought and limited to purchase once every 3 months or something... How it's done is still being looked at, but it's safe to say youll see them again
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1415254#post1415254
This was from a post of mine 2 weeks ago... So I'll place it here. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:53:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:HOW could they not give a respec they are removing logi lavs entirely from the game the skills as well..so the sp that was dedicated to that is what lost?
they have to give a respec they dont this game will die 1.7
It's not just as simple as that either.
When you go removing and adding vehicle skills, especially the amount of skills being added, CORE skills, you have to look at the big picture. A pilot may have spent SP on infantry skills since they had relevant skills for their vehicle builds maxed out. Now, you add in these skills, maybe that pilot never spent those SP, because now CORE skills are in play, and SP spend on infantry may have never been purchased in the first place.
This is why the respec is argument rarely evolves into relevant discussion, because most people think A+B=C
It's not that simple.
It's about letting people use what they earned in ways they want to use it, in relation to the big picture of having a full suite of CORE skills and equipment to chose from.
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jlpgaming2752
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.03 15:54:00 -
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If they change Logi bonus's I'll want a respec. I still think this should be a permanent option.
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IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:34:00 -
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i do agree a respect is needed and altho i want one in 1.7 i think its only needed when we get the full racial suits/ weapons and vehicles out
until then they should be refunding any skills which get removed like they do in EvE
once the ground has been set then its no more respecs and from then on we should be looking forward to T2 weapons and suits etc |
VikingKong iBUN
Mcalpines Fusiliers
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:25:00 -
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i would very much like the sp back for my assault rifles which i wont be using any more after 1.7, as the new rifles will be added and i wont ever use the gallente one again
i certainly wouldnt mind a full respec for everyone if that's easier for CCP to implement :)
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
880
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:30:00 -
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The wheel turns, what was good becomes good again, what was bad becomes bad again.
A single age has yet to pass and already you whine... |
Roy Xkillerz
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:32:00 -
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If you want players to come back. Then I recommand to do a sp reset. |
dustwaffle
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
629
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Posted - 2013.11.07 12:18:00 -
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Balancing = No respec
Addition of new content = No respec
Fundamental change to skill trees etc = Yes/Maybe |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.07 12:27:00 -
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So who's taking bets on what the new FOTM will be?
I'm putting money on armor tanked rail rifle with dmg mods. Full grenade skill. |
Haerr
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.07 12:44:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Balancing = No respec
Addition of new content = No respec
Fundamental change to skill trees etc = Yes/Maybe
Isn't that what is going to happen?
Is the breach shotgun working as inteded?
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1726
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:36:00 -
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Roy Xkillerz wrote:If you want players to come back. Then I recommand to do a sp reset.
I'm looking at it from that angle too. Kind of a "we finally finished the game. please come back - here's this little bonus." |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:37:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:HOW could they not give a respec they are removing logi lavs entirely from the game the skills as well..so the sp that was dedicated to that is what lost?
they have to give a respec they dont this game will die 1.7
SCREW YO LAV!!! MY ASSULT AND LOGI DROPSHIPS ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE THE ONLY VIABLE DROPSHIPS INGAME!!! WITH THE LOGI BEING SLIGHTLY BETTER THEN STANDRD! AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON THAT WONKY CAMERA NOW!
AND NOT ONLY ARE THEY GONE ,BUT I HAVENT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT MAKING THE STANDRD DROPSHIPS FLY LIKE ASSULTS! SO IM SURE WE'RE STILL GETTING ANALED IN THE SKY!
.... sorry, when ever i hear about someone other the a dropship pilot, heavy, or scout complain that their role is hard or this needs a buff for whatever reason i have to remind them who have been suffering.
ps. Is CCP still doing the ammo thing with all turrets. If so how will dropships resupply?
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But What
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:42:00 -
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hahahaha yeah i quit the game due to a change they did a while back, got sick of them changing s hit, what i spec'd into got f ucked and i spent like a month building it just for it to go in the trash hahaha. I got FF14 now very happy with my desiscion.
(i decided to check these forums to see if the game was actually playable again, by the looks of it i guess not) |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1147
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:49:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:CCP should give us an option to Respec our Character after Uprising 1.7, considering they are doing a s*it ton of tweaking on weapons, armour, vehicles, Equipment, Modules etc, they even adding new weapons in the game. Now most of you will hate the Respec option, but wouldn't you hate it if you spent all your SP on lets say for example... AR & Logistics Amarr Armour & CCP nerfed the heck out of it (remember it's an example & not fact), you'll definitely be upset about it, & your Character will be a brick a useless one & you'll be demanding a Respec from CCP, now since it optional you don't have to respec your character, in fact they still got a Respect Ticket on their Official Page https://dust514.com/user/help-tickets/ & yesterday I've asked them if they'll be another one or if it was a one time offer & this is what they said. "Hi, Unfortunately the skill point respec was a one-time only offer and no plans has been made about a second one. I suggest you to keep an eye on the official channels such as Forum and Website, for further information. Should you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again." Although he/she said it's an one time offer, but then telling me to keep a close eye on the forums for any news on it, meaning they'll another one when the time is right... What do you guys think about this?? Leave your thoughts below, Peace...
They don't nerf gear and make them useless, they balance the gear against everything else to bring them in line. If you want new stuff then save up your SP. In six months when a new weapon is release are you going to ask for one then? How about in 9 months and at one year.
THEY WILL ADD AND CHANGE THINGS UNTIL THE SEVER IS TURNED OFF. Will you ask for a respec every time? Another junk thread to waste our time on something that is pointless to 99% of the community. Refunding SP will do nothing to make the game better, more fun, retain players, add players or do anything else but cause more threads for respecs more often.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1147
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:51:00 -
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Roy Xkillerz wrote:If you want players to come back. Then I recommand to do a sp reset.
Making the game fun and adding content is the only way to bring players back and add new ones. Respecs are not the answer.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1147
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:54:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Balancing = No respec
Addition of new content = No respec
Fundamental change to skill trees etc = Yes/Maybe
Maybe for drastic changes but then it won't do anything for the game. We should be trying to make the game better by doing things that are good for the game not placate QQers with a lame refund. We need to grow up and make the game better, stop trying to get what individuals want and do what is best for the community. Refunds don't add anything.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Meeko Fent
Xer Cloud Consortium
1435
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:56:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:HOW could they not give a respec they are removing logi lavs entirely from the game the skills as well..so the sp that was dedicated to that is what lost?
they have to give a respec they dont this game will die 1.7
They refund the skills that are gone.
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:57:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I don't know about complete respec but I know they will re-allocate your SP spent into vehicles.
Use this 3x SP event to store up some SP for 1.7.
I don't think there is enough content coming in 1.7 to use all of my 3.1 million unallocated skill points.
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dustwaffle
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
630
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:58:00 -
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Haerr wrote:dustwaffle wrote:Balancing = No respec
Addition of new content = No respec
Fundamental change to skill trees etc = Yes/Maybe Isn't that what is going to happen?
Depends what being changed. If the vehicle skill tree changes, or skill bonuses change significantly, I can see a respec given out. AFAIK, dropsuit skills are pretty much set now and any changes will be minor. |
dustwaffle
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
631
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:02:00 -
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But What wrote:hahahaha yeah i quit the game due to a change they did a while back, got sick of them changing s hit, what i spec'd into got f ucked and i spent like a month building it just for it to go in the trash hahaha. I got FF14 now very happy with my desiscion.
(i decided to check these forums to see if the game was actually playable again, by the looks of it i guess not)
Based on CCP's track record with EVE, balancing will always happen. Stats of dropsuits, modules, weapons and equipment will get tweaked every now and again to bring them in line. If that is unacceptable to you, don't come back.
Curious though, what did CCP change to make your allocated SP useless? Unless you don't actually have anything and are just making shlt up on the spot? |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1149
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:06:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I don't know about complete respec but I know they will re-allocate your SP spent into vehicles.
Use this 3x SP event to store up some SP for 1.7. I don't think there is enough content coming in 1.7 to use all of my 3.1 million unallocated skill points.
Here is the answer. SAVE YOUR SP!
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1370
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Posted - 2013.11.10 15:48:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:The wheel turns, what was good becomes good again, what was bad becomes bad again.
A single age has yet to pass and already you whine...
You have read the wheel of time books?
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
296
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Posted - 2013.11.10 15:49:00 -
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respec's break the game and cause giant FOTM cycles... stop with respec's.... You have more then enough time to save skill point's for the next patch. |
CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:04:00 -
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Not in 1.7, but after vehicle changes, new rifles, and when we get all racial suits, then yes. I vote respec and the Mango will make sure to enrage the community enough so it happens.
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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:05:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:respec's break the game and cause giant FOTM cycles... stop with respec's.... You have more then enough time to save skill point's for the next patch.
So, if everyone can have a FOTM weapon or suit in a relatively short time, anyway, why not? You must be a CCP fanboi. "HTFU" "NO RESPECS EVARRRR" "FOTMNEWBB!" "GET GOOD SCRUB!"
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