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Thor Odinson42 wrote:

General John Ripper wrote:

Kasote Denzara wrote:

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

I don't get the no respec crowd. I never will.

As I've said a million times on here. It will not help a player such as myself who has multiple proto suits available, 5 proto weapons, etc. It will immensely help the new player experience as they'll be able to fix their mistakes.

I'd rather them be able to find their niche after some trial and error and then be able to specialize. They'll always be behind a player with 30 mil SP in regards to flexibility, meaning I can bring multiple proto roles to the battlefield.

That being said I still can't see how it would be game breaking in any way even for a player like myself. I am nearly maxed on all equipment (rep tool needs to go from 3 to 5), core skills nearly maxed, etc. After hacking and profile skills I'm set for an infantry character. If we got a respec today, I just can't see what vets like myself could skill into to cause any issues.

The positives of a respec far outweigh the negatives. The only issue I see is that there a mindset carried over from Eve that people are holding on to. I think we all have to remember that while the games are connected there are two very different market sectors that CCP needs to appeal to.

And this, ultimately, is a wording of reason that we've been trying to push against anti-respec people for a while now. It just doesn't seem to click that it affects others much largely than themselves. For those that aren't at the point where they have 20-30 mill of SP, they can get rid of the stuff they don't use if a respec was offered and specialize into something.

Hell, some infantry would ooze at the idea of being able to drop the AR for a tank, and some tankers for an AR. A respec would benefit so many people it's silly.

Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others.

I agree to a point. But the SP will still be valuable.

I don't think anything will change that dynamic. I'm not saying a once a month respec. Perhaps at milestones for a new player and then one available for purchase.

Perhaps one at 10 mil SP

Then one for purchase. Although I'm not that worried about that one, I don't need a respec. It would be nice to move out of one of my proto suits and into another, but it's not that big of a deal.

For me it's more about the absoluteness of the stance against it. It seems like more people are for a respect than against. To me I think it should be a discussion to come up with a responsible way to provide them.

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Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 793	Posted - 2013.11.01 13:13:00 - [1] - Quote Please stop asking for respecs to try new gear and learn to run standard gear like all the new players do. The only people with the right to complain are those with placeholder suits and weapons and those in vehicles. You can't really know if you'll love a weapon unless you can run with it at standard, which doesn't take a lot of SP. The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1965	Posted - 2013.11.01 13:36:00 - [2] - Quote Most of the people raising respec threads these days are the ones you excuse.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4857	Posted - 2013.11.01 14:19:00 - [3] - Quote There is no excuse for respecs. Ever. Except for maybe when there is racial symmetry along suits and vehicles. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 33	Posted - 2013.11.01 14:25:00 - [4] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: There is no excuse for respecs. Ever. Except for maybe when there is racial symmetry along suits and vehicles. I thought that was domestic violence... No? Alright. Not like new players make mistakes.... ...but my human dishwasher, on the other hand. "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens."
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR The Kaos Legion 340	Posted - 2013.11.01 14:52:00 - [5] - Quote its an unofficial guarantee that we are getting respecs in 1.7. with all the skill tree changes and whatnot. plus, if they don't, I have a feeling the will lose A LOT of vets... everybody's pumped about this respec, so as I see it, we're definitely getting ONE more in 1.7 How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR The Kaos Legion 340	Posted - 2013.11.01 14:54:00 - [6] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Please stop asking for respecs to try new gear and learn to run standard gear like all the new players do. The only people with the right to complain are those with placeholder suits and weapons and those in vehicles. You can't really know if you'll love a weapon unless you can run with it at standard, which doesn't take a lot of SP. I disagree. standard nova knives are crap. How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP 124	Posted - 2013.11.01 14:56:00 - [7] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: There is no excuse for respecs. Ever. Except for maybe when there is racial symmetry along suits and vehicles. Alright. Not like new players make mistakes.... ...but my human dishwasher, on the other hand. On topic: CCP gives us excuses every time they nerf buff, nerf buff. Off topic: My wife came to me the other day and told me the dishwasher was broke. She was not amused when the next day I came home with a new younger wife and told her that I got a new dishwasher for her. DUST514 Love The Dream Hate The Product Dusters - WhenGäó CCP - SoonGäó
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4857	Posted - 2013.11.01 14:56:00 - [8] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: its an unofficial guarantee that we are getting respecs in 1.7. with all the skill tree changes and whatnot. plus, if they don't, I have a feeling the will lose A LOT of vets... everybody's pumped about this respec, so as I see it, we're definitely getting ONE more in 1.7 The problem there is that there is no confirmation at all about any upcoming respec due to the overhaul. We just have suspicions and baseless expectations. Until CCP says otherwise, I'll assume there are no respecs coming. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 830	Posted - 2013.11.01 14:59:00 - [9] - Quote No respec says this vet... For the Empire! Member of ASS: Amarr Secret Service.
Sleepy Zan 2682	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:02:00 - [10] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Please stop asking for respecs to try new gear and learn to run standard gear like all the new players do. The only people with the right to complain are those with placeholder suits and weapons and those in vehicles. You can't really know if you'll love a weapon unless you can run with it at standard, which doesn't take a lot of SP. You've never used the imperial SCR, whole different ball game A good sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a good sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield

The Attorney General MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1411	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:11:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: The problem there is that there is no confirmation at all about any upcoming respec due to the overhaul. We just have suspicions and baseless expectations. Until CCP says otherwise, I'll assume there are no respecs coming. This is the best course of action. Do not go spending SP foolishly thinking that you are getting it back until there is an OFFICIAL confirmation on the subject. With that said, given the amount of changes coming to vehicles, I would suspect that at least a partial respec is coming. If the remaining core suits are included in that same patch, then a full respec seems the simplest way to please everyone. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR The Kaos Legion 340	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:13:00 - [12] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: its an unofficial guarantee that we are getting respecs in 1.7. with all the skill tree changes and whatnot. plus, if they don't, I have a feeling the will lose A LOT of vets... everybody's pumped about this respec, so as I see it, we're definitely getting ONE more in 1.7 The problem there is that there is no confirmation at all about any upcoming respec due to the overhaul. We just have suspicions and baseless expectations. Until CCP says otherwise, I'll assume there are no respecs coming. you're right. there is no official statement from ccp, but if they read their own forums, then they know how excited most of the community is about this. if they let us down, I predict the player count will drop drastically. all that could come out of a respec is good things. people returning to the game, better allocation of sp. I have at least 10 friends who said they would return if we got a respec in 1.7. I know if we don't get a respec, you wont see me on too much. i'm sick of having to live with low CPU PG because of my mistakes in the past. I want to max out my core skills and without the respec, it would take me months to get them to max. I know a lot of other people feel the same, or they are bored with their skill tree and would take months just to skill into something new. How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
General John Ripper 11598	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:15:00 - [13] - Quote I got level 1 sniper and now i need a respec... NOT! Dust 514's #17 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR The Kaos Legion 340	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:17:00 - [14] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I got level 1 sniper and now i need a respec... NOT! why did you even post? How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1788	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:43:00 - [15] - Quote I don't get the no respec crowd. I never will. As I've said a million times on here. It will not help a player such as myself who has multiple proto suits available, 5 proto weapons, etc. It will immensely help the new player experience as they'll be able to fix their mistakes. I'd rather them be able to find their niche after some trial and error and then be able to specialize. They'll always be behind a player with 30 mil SP in regards to flexibility, meaning I can bring multiple proto roles to the battlefield. That being said I still can't see how it would be game breaking in any way even for a player like myself. I am nearly maxed on all equipment (rep tool needs to go from 3 to 5), core skills nearly maxed, etc. After hacking and profile skills I'm set for an infantry character. If we got a respec today, I just can't see what vets like myself could skill into to cause any issues. The positives of a respec far outweigh the negatives. The only issue I see is that there a mindset carried over from Eve that people are holding on to. I think we all have to remember that while the games are connected there are two very different market sectors that CCP needs to appeal to.
General John Ripper 11601	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:44:00 - [16] - Quote To express my opinion that respecs are stupid using bad sarcasm. I do not want a respect. I have millions in wasted sp I do not use and I still do not want one. I feel like people should HTFU and live with their choices. Dust 514's #17 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 628	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:50:00 - [17] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I don't get the no respec crowd. I never will. As I've said a million times on here. It will not help a player such as myself who has multiple proto suits available, 5 proto weapons, etc. It will immensely help the new player experience as they'll be able to fix their mistakes. I'd rather them be able to find their niche after some trial and error and then be able to specialize. They'll always be behind a player with 30 mil SP in regards to flexibility, meaning I can bring multiple proto roles to the battlefield. That being said I still can't see how it would be game breaking in any way even for a player like myself. I am nearly maxed on all equipment (rep tool needs to go from 3 to 5), core skills nearly maxed, etc. After hacking and profile skills I'm set for an infantry character. If we got a respec today, I just can't see what vets like myself could skill into to cause any issues. The positives of a respec far outweigh the negatives. The only issue I see is that there a mindset carried over from Eve that people are holding on to. I think we all have to remember that while the games are connected there are two very different market sectors that CCP needs to appeal to. And this, ultimately, is a wording of reason that we've been trying to push against anti-respec people for a while now. It just doesn't seem to click that it affects others much largely than themselves. For those that aren't at the point where they have 20-30 mill of SP, they can get rid of the stuff they don't use if a respec was offered and specialize into something. Hell, some infantry would ooze at the idea of being able to drop the AR for a tank, and some tankers for an AR. A respec would benefit so many people it's silly. I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1136	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:50:00 - [18] - Quote We were told no more respecs sorry you havnt saved your sp...but I have now how would that be fair?
General John Ripper 11602	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:52:00 - [19] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I don't get the no respec crowd. I never will. As I've said a million times on here. It will not help a player such as myself who has multiple proto suits available, 5 proto weapons, etc. It will immensely help the new player experience as they'll be able to fix their mistakes. I'd rather them be able to find their niche after some trial and error and then be able to specialize. They'll always be behind a player with 30 mil SP in regards to flexibility, meaning I can bring multiple proto roles to the battlefield. That being said I still can't see how it would be game breaking in any way even for a player like myself. I am nearly maxed on all equipment (rep tool needs to go from 3 to 5), core skills nearly maxed, etc. After hacking and profile skills I'm set for an infantry character. If we got a respec today, I just can't see what vets like myself could skill into to cause any issues. The positives of a respec far outweigh the negatives. The only issue I see is that there a mindset carried over from Eve that people are holding on to. I think we all have to remember that while the games are connected there are two very different market sectors that CCP needs to appeal to. And this, ultimately, is a wording of reason that we've been trying to push against anti-respec people for a while now. It just doesn't seem to click that it affects others much largely than themselves. For those that aren't at the point where they have 20-30 mill of SP, they can get rid of the stuff they don't use if a respec was offered and specialize into something. Hell, some infantry would ooze at the idea of being able to drop the AR for a tank, and some tankers for an AR. A respec would benefit so many people it's silly. Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others. Dust 514's #17 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 628	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:57:00 - [20] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others. Not everyone in Dust 514 was, or still even is, aware of New Eden's ways. It also cannot be avoided to compare this game to the other games, MMO and RPG alike, that allow you to change out for a price. If anything, CCP would see an increase of money from those that are still learning that want a change. There are also those that are bored out of their mind from using the same thing over and over again that would like to, say, do an opposite role. The picture is bigger than a handful. I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.

General John Ripper 11603	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:01:00 - [21] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others. Not everyone in Dust 514 was, or still even is, aware of New Eden's ways. It also cannot be avoided to compare this game to the other games, MMO and RPG alike, that allow you to change out for a price. If anything, CCP would see an increase of money from those that are still learning that want a change. There are also those that are bored out of their mind from using the same thing over and over again that would like to, say, do an opposite role. The picture is bigger than a handful. If people should have to pay for respecs then it should cost even more than boosters. ALOT more. CCP is a company and I do not think that they want EVE profits to carry this game forever, This game has to earn its own fair share of profits in order to keep it going. Dust 514's #17 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1789	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:04:00 - [22] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I don't get the no respec crowd. I never will. As I've said a million times on here. It will not help a player such as myself who has multiple proto suits available, 5 proto weapons, etc. It will immensely help the new player experience as they'll be able to fix their mistakes. I'd rather them be able to find their niche after some trial and error and then be able to specialize. They'll always be behind a player with 30 mil SP in regards to flexibility, meaning I can bring multiple proto roles to the battlefield. That being said I still can't see how it would be game breaking in any way even for a player like myself. I am nearly maxed on all equipment (rep tool needs to go from 3 to 5), core skills nearly maxed, etc. After hacking and profile skills I'm set for an infantry character. If we got a respec today, I just can't see what vets like myself could skill into to cause any issues. The positives of a respec far outweigh the negatives. The only issue I see is that there a mindset carried over from Eve that people are holding on to. I think we all have to remember that while the games are connected there are two very different market sectors that CCP needs to appeal to. And this, ultimately, is a wording of reason that we've been trying to push against anti-respec people for a while now. It just doesn't seem to click that it affects others much largely than themselves. For those that aren't at the point where they have 20-30 mill of SP, they can get rid of the stuff they don't use if a respec was offered and specialize into something. Hell, some infantry would ooze at the idea of being able to drop the AR for a tank, and some tankers for an AR. A respec would benefit so many people it's silly. Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others. I agree to a point. But the SP will still be valuable. I don't think anything will change that dynamic. I'm not saying a once a month respec. Perhaps at milestones for a new player and then one available for purchase. Perhaps one at 10 mil SP Then one for purchase. Although I'm not that worried about that one, I don't need a respec. It would be nice to move out of one of my proto suits and into another, but it's not that big of a deal. For me it's more about the absoluteness of the stance against it. It seems like more people are for a respect than against. To me I think it should be a discussion to come up with a responsible way to provide them.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 629	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:07:00 - [23] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: If people should have to pay for respecs then it should cost even more than boosters. ALOT more. CCP is a company and I do not think that they want EVE profits to carry this game forever, This game has to earn its own fair share of profits in order to keep it going. As much as those silly Omegas? They're making money from the loyalist of Dust 514. Every month, there will be quite a few people buying a month passive, if not on top of an active. The cost of a respec is negotiable and ultimately... insignificant to some. There are some people will money to throw around, and I personally know a few. Never underestimate the loyalty of a fanbase either. There was a time where Armored Core was jabbed at. It's still around. I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1789	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:08:00 - [24] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others. Not everyone in Dust 514 was, or still even is, aware of New Eden's ways. It also cannot be avoided to compare this game to the other games, MMO and RPG alike, that allow you to change out for a price. If anything, CCP would see an increase of money from those that are still learning that want a change. There are also those that are bored out of their mind from using the same thing over and over again that would like to, say, do an opposite role. The picture is bigger than a handful. I stuck with the game. I've plugged away grinding my ass off. But others haven't, if they were unhappy they could come back to 4 million SP or whatever. But during that time I've accumulated 12 mil SP and maxed out all the core stuff. It's easy to say they shouldn't have left, but we should be concerned with keeping people in the game. I'm all for sacrificing some of the ideals that come from a separate game if it means that this game that I love will become more successful.
General John Ripper 11607	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:10:00 - [25] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I don't get the no respec crowd. I never will. As I've said a million times on here. It will not help a player such as myself who has multiple proto suits available, 5 proto weapons, etc. It will immensely help the new player experience as they'll be able to fix their mistakes. I'd rather them be able to find their niche after some trial and error and then be able to specialize. They'll always be behind a player with 30 mil SP in regards to flexibility, meaning I can bring multiple proto roles to the battlefield. That being said I still can't see how it would be game breaking in any way even for a player like myself. I am nearly maxed on all equipment (rep tool needs to go from 3 to 5), core skills nearly maxed, etc. After hacking and profile skills I'm set for an infantry character. If we got a respec today, I just can't see what vets like myself could skill into to cause any issues. The positives of a respec far outweigh the negatives. The only issue I see is that there a mindset carried over from Eve that people are holding on to. I think we all have to remember that while the games are connected there are two very different market sectors that CCP needs to appeal to. And this, ultimately, is a wording of reason that we've been trying to push against anti-respec people for a while now. It just doesn't seem to click that it affects others much largely than themselves. For those that aren't at the point where they have 20-30 mill of SP, they can get rid of the stuff they don't use if a respec was offered and specialize into something. Hell, some infantry would ooze at the idea of being able to drop the AR for a tank, and some tankers for an AR. A respec would benefit so many people it's silly. Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others. I agree to a point. But the SP will still be valuable. I don't think anything will change that dynamic. I'm not saying a once a month respec. Perhaps at milestones for a new player and then one available for purchase. Perhaps one at 10 mil SP Then one for purchase. Although I'm not that worried about that one, I don't need a respec. It would be nice to move out of one of my proto suits and into another, but it's not that big of a deal. For me it's more about the absoluteness of the stance against it. It seems like more people are for a respect than against. To me I think it should be a discussion to come up with a responsible way to provide them. Now this is something I can agree with. We did get a respec a long time ago but I do not want anymore. If this is for new players then give new players an option to respec after a 10m milestone but only ONE free respec. No more. If they make respecs purchasable then it should not be cheap as to not be so easily abused. Dust 514's #17 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 99	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:11:00 - [26] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Please stop asking for respecs to try new gear and learn to run standard gear like all the new players do. The only people with the right to complain are those with placeholder suits and weapons and those in vehicles. You can't really know if you'll love a weapon unless you can run with it at standard, which doesn't take a lot of SP. We ask them for when new racial Line up will here. Heavy suits => Scout suits => New vehicules. We don't deserve it NOW but when Racial suits will be there.
mordiby G.R.A.V.E 31	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:11:00 - [27] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Please stop asking for respecs to try new gear and learn to run standard gear like all the new players do. The only people with the right to complain are those with placeholder suits and weapons and those in vehicles. You can't really know if you'll love a weapon unless you can run with it at standard, which doesn't take a lot of SP. You do know those who skilled into things that got nerfed need it, because the people who used things before they got nerfed need em'. Oh and what about new player who skill into pointless stuff that had direction, hmmm? Director of G.R.A.V.E *NBK* The Leppy
General John Ripper 11607	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:11:00 - [28] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: General John Ripper wrote: If people should have to pay for respecs then it should cost even more than boosters. ALOT more. CCP is a company and I do not think that they want EVE profits to carry this game forever, This game has to earn its own fair share of profits in order to keep it going. As much as those silly Omegas? They're making money from the loyalist of Dust 514. Every month, there will be quite a few people buying a month passive, if not on top of an active. The cost of a respec is negotiable and ultimately... insignificant to some. There are some people will money to throw around, and I personally know a few. Never underestimate the loyalty of a fanbase either. There was a time where Armored Core was jabbed at. It's still around. let them throw money around. It is paying for the servers and giving CCP more time to fix their game and improve their game and playerbase. Dust 514's #17 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 630	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:16:00 - [29] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: let them throw money around. It is paying for the servers and giving CCP more time to fix their game and improve their game and playerbase. That is what I'm suggesting. I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 794	Posted - 2013.11.01 16:27:00 - [30] - Quote I come from EVE, where you essentially are paying a subscription for SP. If I forget to reque I get nothing, and lose money. This game will always give you enough free SP passively to get 5 standard weapons a week. If you cap and use boosters then you could get every advanced weapon in less than 2 month. When going into proto your essentially saying I'm going to take one weapon to 5 instead of taking 4 other weapons to 3, and that's fine but the difference between Advanced and Proto is such that you can't argue that proto is the only viable option. Now for racial variants not released it's reasonable for a respec like in Uprising. The biggest change I've made with a respec is going from Min Logi to Gal Logi, but even in Chrome I never took my logi past standard in case there wasn't a respec. I also agree that if they overhaul vehicle or dropsuit skills like they did post uprising that a respec is fine and who is to say that you can't spec into something totally different. The second respec contributed to the large number of Cal Logis that eventually led to their "nerf" and people demanded a respec out of cal logi, similarly to the flaylock. It's an endless cycle in a game where things will constatly keep changing and being tweaked, there will be no end to people wanting respecs until they stop having them. Assuming this game is still around in a year and there aren't too many new suits and weapons you'll have plenty of SP to spec into whatever you want. It only takes about 2 months to get enough SP for a new suit and weapon to level 5, play for a year and negelcting cores you at least 5 different full fits. I invest in cores and not new junk for that very reason. I specced conservatively and have weathered the rebalancings for it. What will I do when my cores are maxed? Vehicles? New Suit? Weapon? Whatever I want, and I'll start at standard and work my way up like I did for my first suit. Learn to save your SP or learn to spec into low risk skills. The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.



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