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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:15:00 -
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I got level 1 sniper and now i need a respec...
NOT!
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:44:00 -
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To express my opinion that respecs are stupid using bad sarcasm. I do not want a respect. I have millions in wasted sp I do not use and I still do not want one. I feel like people should HTFU and live with their choices.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:52:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I don't get the no respec crowd. I never will.
As I've said a million times on here. It will not help a player such as myself who has multiple proto suits available, 5 proto weapons, etc. It will immensely help the new player experience as they'll be able to fix their mistakes.
I'd rather them be able to find their niche after some trial and error and then be able to specialize. They'll always be behind a player with 30 mil SP in regards to flexibility, meaning I can bring multiple proto roles to the battlefield.
That being said I still can't see how it would be game breaking in any way even for a player like myself. I am nearly maxed on all equipment (rep tool needs to go from 3 to 5), core skills nearly maxed, etc. After hacking and profile skills I'm set for an infantry character. If we got a respec today, I just can't see what vets like myself could skill into to cause any issues.
The positives of a respec far outweigh the negatives. The only issue I see is that there a mindset carried over from Eve that people are holding on to. I think we all have to remember that while the games are connected there are two very different market sectors that CCP needs to appeal to. And this, ultimately, is a wording of reason that we've been trying to push against anti-respec people for a while now. It just doesn't seem to click that it affects others much largely than themselves. For those that aren't at the point where they have 20-30 mill of SP, they can get rid of the stuff they don't use if a respec was offered and specialize into something. Hell, some infantry would ooze at the idea of being able to drop the AR for a tank, and some tankers for an AR. A respec would benefit so many people it's silly.
Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:01:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:General John Ripper wrote:
Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others.
Not everyone in Dust 514 was, or still even is, aware of New Eden's ways. It also cannot be avoided to compare this game to the other games, MMO and RPG alike, that allow you to change out for a price. If anything, CCP would see an increase of money from those that are still learning that want a change. There are also those that are bored out of their mind from using the same thing over and over again that would like to, say, do an opposite role. The picture is bigger than a handful.
If people should have to pay for respecs then it should cost even more than boosters. ALOT more. CCP is a company and I do not think that they want EVE profits to carry this game forever, This game has to earn its own fair share of profits in order to keep it going.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:10:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:General John Ripper wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I don't get the no respec crowd. I never will.
As I've said a million times on here. It will not help a player such as myself who has multiple proto suits available, 5 proto weapons, etc. It will immensely help the new player experience as they'll be able to fix their mistakes.
I'd rather them be able to find their niche after some trial and error and then be able to specialize. They'll always be behind a player with 30 mil SP in regards to flexibility, meaning I can bring multiple proto roles to the battlefield.
That being said I still can't see how it would be game breaking in any way even for a player like myself. I am nearly maxed on all equipment (rep tool needs to go from 3 to 5), core skills nearly maxed, etc. After hacking and profile skills I'm set for an infantry character. If we got a respec today, I just can't see what vets like myself could skill into to cause any issues.
The positives of a respec far outweigh the negatives. The only issue I see is that there a mindset carried over from Eve that people are holding on to. I think we all have to remember that while the games are connected there are two very different market sectors that CCP needs to appeal to. And this, ultimately, is a wording of reason that we've been trying to push against anti-respec people for a while now. It just doesn't seem to click that it affects others much largely than themselves. For those that aren't at the point where they have 20-30 mill of SP, they can get rid of the stuff they don't use if a respec was offered and specialize into something. Hell, some infantry would ooze at the idea of being able to drop the AR for a tank, and some tankers for an AR. A respec would benefit so many people it's silly. Careful planning and patience would then become meaningless. I will never buy another booster again because that will become meaningless too. CCP can say goodbye to my money and the money of many others. I agree to a point. But the SP will still be valuable. I don't think anything will change that dynamic. I'm not saying a once a month respec. Perhaps at milestones for a new player and then one available for purchase. Perhaps one at 10 mil SP Then one for purchase. Although I'm not that worried about that one, I don't need a respec. It would be nice to move out of one of my proto suits and into another, but it's not that big of a deal. For me it's more about the absoluteness of the stance against it. It seems like more people are for a respect than against. To me I think it should be a discussion to come up with a responsible way to provide them.
Now this is something I can agree with. We did get a respec a long time ago but I do not want anymore. If this is for new players then give new players an option to respec after a 10m milestone but only ONE free respec. No more. If they make respecs purchasable then it should not be cheap as to not be so easily abused.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:11:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:General John Ripper wrote:
If people should have to pay for respecs then it should cost even more than boosters. ALOT more. CCP is a company and I do not think that they want EVE profits to carry this game forever, This game has to earn its own fair share of profits in order to keep it going.
As much as those silly Omegas? They're making money from the loyalist of Dust 514. Every month, there will be quite a few people buying a month passive, if not on top of an active. The cost of a respec is negotiable and ultimately... insignificant to some. There are some people will money to throw around, and I personally know a few. Never underestimate the loyalty of a fanbase either. There was a time where Armored Core was jabbed at. It's still around.
let them throw money around. It is paying for the servers and giving CCP more time to fix their game and improve their game and playerbase.
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