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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1131	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:21:00 - [31] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1131	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:25:00 - [32] - Quote skippy678 wrote: Counting your eggs before they hatch. A post like this makes it even that much less likely..keep posting this stuff. Personally I been using Proto Forge over Proto Swarms for a month now. You loose a low slot on your vehicls now an my forge stays the same :) See you soon mr stompy pants. Skippy.. Did you fail to see the part where they're looking at forge guns?
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 457	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:30:00 - [33] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV. Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV.
Meeko Fent expert intervention Caldari State 1325	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:35:00 - [34] - Quote I'll be in the outpost drinking tea and eating crumpets if you need me. While tanks probably won't die as fast, I will still have the turning radius death trap called an outpost that will keep me safe from impending ammo shortages. Not every new addition is rainbows and sunshine. And walls stop bullets very well.
Meeko Fent expert intervention Caldari State 1325	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:36:00 - [35] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: O'Dell I guarantee. MOTHER *****... GUARANTEE! That you will (100% guaran- ***** - tee!) that you will be on here with in a week of 1.6 and you will STILL think AV is OP. #youthought that AV was going to be UP. #tacos #still#livinglikelarry 1.7. Just reminding yah.
The Attorney General MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1362	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:39:00 - [36] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV. Unless you are a logi, you do have a sidearm. Granted, it isn't optimal, but it is better than getting faceraped. If you are a logi, then roll with someone who can carry a sidearm for self protection and let them do the AV work.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1325	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:53:00 - [37] - Quote lol. av may get a slight buff, honestly. i have crunched the numbers and since all tanks are active defense tanks, they will be soloable when their hardeners turn off. The problem with that is that unlike in chrome, tanks dont glow when their hardeners are on, anymore, so its impossible to tell. I would be in favor of bringing that back, as it benefits tankers, too, in killing other tanks, which is what I'll be doing. I talk like I'm an infantry pub stomper, but that's never been me. I play PC to kill other tanks bc it's what I'm good at. My perfect idea for AV would actually be to buff the **** out of the modules and keep AV where it is, so that when hardeners are one, tanks can't be killed unless their is like a wall of swarms and forges coming at them, however, when the modules turn off, they are easily solo'd. This way, only the good tankers will do well. Also keep in mind that HP regen is very slow on tanks now (especially armor), and even though they will take longer to kill when in active tank death mode, they will be out of the fight for awhile, and even considering that shield tanks can go from 0 shields to 1950 in a second, that only works once in a long period of time, so it won't be game breaking by any means. Tanks will be more of battering rams or fire support now, and not unstoppable death machines that JUST KEEP GOING. This is what I thought they should've been all along. A brawler should just go in and smash up everyone for 30 second or so, then pull out and let the infantry do their thing while he takes like a minute to rep back up. However, if there was an ambush waiting for him on his egress route, he wouldn't stand a chance. Even with AV being nerfed, 3 swarms will still kill a madrugar with full health and armor hardeners off- that takes 0.9 seconds, if nobody checked. AV will require tactics now, which is good, because so will tanks. Tankers will want to cover eachother when working in pairs and will actually require more infantry work to win because tanks WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HOLD GROUND ANYMORE. That's right- it is impossible because there are no passive modules or OP armor reps. I'm so excited about this, if nobody can tell. It actually will mean tanks won't do so hot in ambushes anymore because of the ridiculous cooldown and slow regen or lack thereof if they are being shot at. I have a feeling that we'll see a lot of tanks in ambushes in the first week, then a quick decline as people realize that they have to be able to get somewhere safe or they die. Also, a good way to tell if a GOOD tanker's hardeners are off is if he starts to retreat when he is doing very well. This doesn't work with dumb tankers, as they think they're invincible, but the seasoned pilots will only engage when they know they have every possible advantage, which is why the 'good' tankers seem invincible. I don't fight proto AV in pubs- ever. I just run infantry. However, if i see a lack of competant AV on the red team, i'll call down a tank and wreck house because i know i can get away with it.
Epicsting pro Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 304	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:55:00 - [38] - Quote Laser turret in 1.8 will be the best. And really tank won't have as much ehp so av can be tone down some.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1131	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:56:00 - [39] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV. Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV. Well then, guess you better, I don't know, go after a tank as a small team instead of solo.
The Attorney General MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1363	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:59:00 - [40] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV. Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV. Well then, guess you better, I don't know, go after a tank as a small team instead of solo. Never forget, tanks need teamwork, AV doesn't. At least according to the AV.

CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1325	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:00:00 - [41] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV. Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV. Well then, guess you better, I don't know, go after a tank as a small team instead of solo. shhhh...don't tell them that they're allowed to have friends or they'll take over.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 419	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:01:00 - [42] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV. Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV. Well then, guess you better, I don't know, go after a tank as a small team instead of solo. Never forget, tanks need teamwork, AV doesn't. At least according to the AV. LOL No they don't I run my Maddy solo all the time and do just fine.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 457	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:01:00 - [43] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV. Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV. Well then, guess you better, I don't know, go after a tank as a small team instead of solo. Small team v 1 Infantry unit in a tank is a numbers imbalance. In Ambush, multiple tanks covering for each other would bring lop-sided balance problems, since opposing Infantry will easily take advantage of the AV either distracted or useless against them. This is a problem in Ambush because the main goal is to deplete units instead of fighting for an objective.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1132	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:02:00 - [44] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV. Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV. Well then, guess you better, I don't know, go after a tank as a small team instead of solo. Never forget, tanks need teamwork, AV doesn't. At least according to the AV. But of course! I'll never know how we were able to destroy Panzers with Thompsons and Garands and pineapple grenades.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1132	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:02:00 - [45] - Quote Atiim wrote: I run my Maddy solo all the time and do just fine. You don't run a Madrugar at all, because like I said, if you did, you wouldn't be on an anti-tank crusade.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1132	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:04:00 - [46] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV. Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV. Well then, guess you better, I don't know, go after a tank as a small team instead of solo. Small team v 1 Infantry unit in a tank is a numbers imbalance. In Ambush, multiple tanks covering for each other would bring lop-sided balance problems, since opposing Infantry will easily take advantage of the AV either distracted or useless against them. This is a problem in Ambush because the main goal is to deplete units instead of fighting for an objective. Take it up with CCP to limit the number of vehicles in ambush. I might do 3 a month, killing 8-10 minutes between real battles, like FW or PC.
The Attorney General MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1363	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:05:00 - [47] - Quote Atiim wrote: LOL No they don't I run my Maddy solo all the time and do just fine. Against no AV, maybe. Anytime a serious AV user decides that he wants to get you, they can, and will if you are running solo. So either you don't call in your tank against full squads, which makes you a scrub, or you have never played solo against a real AV person. If he gets his PS3 back, I will pay for all your tanks if you go 1 v 1 with Alldin. After you lose 20 or so, then you can try and talk about how you roll solo.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 419	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:07:00 - [48] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: I run my Maddy solo all the time and do just fine. You don't run a Madrugar at all, because like I said, if you did, you wouldn't be on an anti-tank crusade. Will you be on in 15 minutes? Because then I can prove you wrong Oh so I don't think that this should be Tank 514 and because of that I'm clearly not a tanker And don't feed me BS about it, as this thread was created to use as much tanks as possible to stomp infantry in celebration of the AV nerf. AV my ass! People won't even be able to spawn in without getting raped by 6 tanks and 10 infantry units.
The Attorney General MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1363	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:07:00 - [49] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Small team v 1 Infantry unit in a tank is a numbers imbalance. In Ambush, multiple tanks covering for each other would bring lop-sided balance problems, since opposing Infantry will easily take advantage of the AV either distracted or useless against them. This is a problem in Ambush because the main goal is to deplete units instead of fighting for an objective. Do you look at the scoreboard when you go into a match? Most of the tankers are known by name. If you see them, spawn in with a speed fit with uplinks, and run away from the herd. Get real distance, throw down an uplink and have your squad spawn with swarms. When you need tankers to tell you how to play AV, you should just stop playing ambush. Maybe dust in general.
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 118	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:12:00 - [50] - Quote I'm actually laughing right now people on 1 side is bitching about the av nerf and on the other people going on about how tanks are gonna be easy mode again but based on what I've seen the av will still be strong vs tanks I can't say for the dropship that would depend on the av persons skill and the pilots skill. The AV will still be strong and the tank will be stronger they won't be the whole I can go 30/0 with my tank and the rest of the tankers in my squad can go 30/0 cause I can promise you that won't work but at the same time the AV ain't gonna kill the tanks in 3 shots like they do now. I honestly think it will be more balanced out this time than ever before but thats my opinion.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 419	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:13:00 - [51] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: LOL No they don't I run my Maddy solo all the time and do just fine. Against no AV, maybe. Anytime a serious AV user decides that he wants to get you, they can, and will if you are running solo. So either you don't call in your tank against full squads, which makes you a scrub, or you have never played solo against a real AV person. If he gets his PS3 back, I will pay for all your tanks if you go 1 v 1 with Alldin. After you lose 20 or so, then you can try and talk about how you roll solo. LOL LOOOOOL Since I became AV, in most 1v1 tank fights, It has almost always been a draw or victory, because I follow the "If I'm going down, your going down with me" mentality Assuming that I don't land a single hit on him, can any tank survive 3 Lai Dais? No Then a draw it shall be! P.S. I doubt Alldin wants to play DUST anymore
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1325	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:14:00 - [52] - Quote tanks will take too long to rep HP to go 30/0 anymore without redline sniping and hitting every shot they fire. Tanks will be harder to kill, yeah, but they wont get as many kills.
The Attorney General MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1365	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:17:00 - [53] - Quote Atiim wrote: LOL LOOOOOL Since I became AV, in most 1v1 tank fights, It has almost always been a draw or victory, because I follow the "If I'm going down, your going down with me" mentality Assuming that I don't land a single hit on him, can any tank survive 3 Lai Dais? No Then a draw it shall be! P.S. I doubt Alldin wants to play DUST anymore This post proves you don't know what you are talking about. Thanks for the laugh.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 419	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:20:00 - [54] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: LOL LOOOOOL Since I became AV, in most 1v1 tank fights, It has almost always been a draw or victory, because I follow the "If I'm going down, your going down with me" mentality Assuming that I don't land a single hit on him, can any tank survive 3 Lai Dais? No Then a draw it shall be! P.S. I doubt Alldin wants to play DUST anymore This post proves you don't know what you are talking about. Thanks for the laugh. Please explain how? Or are you you and all the other tankers just butthurt about not going 60-0 everytime because of AV and decide to just say lol HTFU we are right and you have no idea what your talking about everytime someone says that your full of ****? Because that's basically the only replies I've ever gotten from people who support Tank 514
The Attorney General MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1367	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:29:00 - [55] - Quote Atiim wrote: Please explain how? Or are you you and all the other tankers just butthurt about not going 60-0 everytime because of AV and decide to just say lol HTFU we are right and you have no idea what your talking about everytime someone says that your full of ****? Because that's basically the only replies I've ever gotten from people who support Tank 514 Good tankers get hassled and harried almost every match. Chased down and hunted is the way known tankers live. That you have not experienced such a scenario means that you have never been a threat, even to the teams of randoms that you tank against.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 419	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:36:00 - [56] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: Please explain how? Or are you you and all the other tankers just butthurt about not going 60-0 everytime because of AV and decide to just say lol HTFU we are right and you have no idea what your talking about everytime someone says that your full of ****? Because that's basically the only replies I've ever gotten from people who support Tank 514 Good tankers get hassled and harried almost every match. Chased down and hunted is the way known tankers live. That you have not experienced such a scenario means that you have never been a threat, even to the teams of randoms that you tank against. Hardest match I've ever faced is with 4 people hunting me down the entire match. And guess what? I ripped them to shreds before they could even empty thier clips! I've been hunted and gutted by AV lots of times, but It only happens when I do something stupid and leave myself open. TL;DR: Tanking isn't nearly as hard as people want others to think But this is getting a tad bit off topic, as this thread is literally about celebrating the AV nerf and release of TANK 514 by stomping people with as much tanks as possible.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1132	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:37:00 - [57] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: I run my Maddy solo all the time and do just fine. You don't run a Madrugar at all, because like I said, if you did, you wouldn't be on an anti-tank crusade. Will you be on in 15 minutes? Because then I can prove you wrong Oh so I don't think that this should be Tank 514 and because of that I'm clearly not a tanker And don't feed me BS about it, as this thread was created to use as much tanks as possible to stomp infantry in celebration of the AV nerf. AV my ass! People won't even be able to spawn in without getting raped by 6 tanks and 10 infantry units. I have work in the morning and should already be in bed. I don't think Fisher Price missile launchers should be so easily able to destroy the best fit tanks and tankers in the game.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1132	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:38:00 - [58] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Small team v 1 Infantry unit in a tank is a numbers imbalance. In Ambush, multiple tanks covering for each other would bring lop-sided balance problems, since opposing Infantry will easily take advantage of the AV either distracted or useless against them. This is a problem in Ambush because the main goal is to deplete units instead of fighting for an objective. Do you look at the scoreboard when you go into a match? Most of the tankers are known by name. If you see them, spawn in with a speed fit with uplinks, and run away from the herd. Get real distance, throw down an uplink and have your squad spawn with swarms. When you need tankers to tell you how to play AV, you should just stop playing ambush. Maybe dust in general. I keep pointing it out to everybody else, then get told by "those better" that "I'm not AV and don't know what I'm talking about." My Ishukone forge gun knows better.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1132	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:39:00 - [59] - Quote Atiim wrote: Assuming that I don't land a single hit on him, can any tank survive 3 Lai Dais? No e If the second hardener and rep are already going, of course they can survive that. Goes to show everybody that you lie about being a tanker.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1132	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:40:00 - [60] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: Please explain how? Or are you you and all the other tankers just butthurt about not going 60-0 everytime because of AV and decide to just say lol HTFU we are right and you have no idea what your talking about everytime someone says that your full of ****? Because that's basically the only replies I've ever gotten from people who support Tank 514 Good tankers get hassled and harried almost every match. Chased down and hunted is the way known tankers live. That you have not experienced such a scenario means that you have never been a threat, even to the teams of randoms that you tank against. He's not a tanker, because if he was, he wouldn't be on a crusade against vehicles in general.



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