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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:39:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:
Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV.
Unless you are a logi, you do have a sidearm.
Granted, it isn't optimal, but it is better than getting faceraped.
If you are a logi, then roll with someone who can carry a sidearm for self protection and let them do the AV work. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:59:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Like tank stomps aren't happening already in Ambush. It's called AV. Useless against Infantry which you will encounter 95% percent of the time, and you can't out of your AV. Well then, guess you better, I don't know, go after a tank as a small team instead of solo.
Never forget, tanks need teamwork, AV doesn't.
At least according to the AV. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 04:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:LOL No they don't I run my Maddy solo all the time and do just fine.
Against no AV, maybe.
Anytime a serious AV user decides that he wants to get you, they can, and will if you are running solo.
So either you don't call in your tank against full squads, which makes you a scrub, or you have never played solo against a real AV person.
If he gets his PS3 back, I will pay for all your tanks if you go 1 v 1 with Alldin. After you lose 20 or so, then you can try and talk about how you roll solo.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.10.28 04:07:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:
Small team v 1 Infantry unit in a tank is a numbers imbalance. In Ambush, multiple tanks covering for each other would bring lop-sided balance problems, since opposing Infantry will easily take advantage of the AV either distracted or useless against them. This is a problem in Ambush because the main goal is to deplete units instead of fighting for an objective.
Do you look at the scoreboard when you go into a match?
Most of the tankers are known by name. If you see them, spawn in with a speed fit with uplinks, and run away from the herd. Get real distance, throw down an uplink and have your squad spawn with swarms.
When you need tankers to tell you how to play AV, you should just stop playing ambush. Maybe dust in general. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 04:17:00 -
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Atiim wrote: LOL LOOOOOL
Since I became AV, in most 1v1 tank fights, It has almost always been a draw or victory, because I follow the "If I'm going down, your going down with me" mentality
Assuming that I don't land a single hit on him, can any tank survive 3 Lai Dais? No
Then a draw it shall be!
P.S. I doubt Alldin wants to play DUST anymore
This post proves you don't know what you are talking about.
Thanks for the laugh. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 04:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Please explain how? Or are you you and all the other tankers just butthurt about not going 60-0 everytime because of AV and decide to just say lol HTFU we are right and you have no idea what your talking about everytime someone says that your full of ****? Because that's basically the only replies I've ever gotten from people who support Tank 514
Good tankers get hassled and harried almost every match. Chased down and hunted is the way known tankers live.
That you have not experienced such a scenario means that you have never been a threat, even to the teams of randoms that you tank against.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.10.28 04:47:00 -
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Atiim wrote: Hardest match I've ever faced is with 4 people hunting me down the entire match. And guess what? I ripped them to shreds before they could even empty thier clips!
I've been hunted and gutted by AV lots of times, but It only happens when I do something stupid and leave myself open.
TL;DR: Tanking isn't nearly as hard as people want others to think
But this is getting a tad bit off topic, as this thread is literally about celebrating the AV nerf and release of TANK 514 by stomping people with as much tanks as possible.
I too have been hunted by 'tards who don't know what they are doing. Most I have faced off with and lived was 7. With a LLAV backing me up. But those are dummies, who don't understand cover, don't know how to ambush, and couldn't co-ordinate if you paid them.
That has no comparison to what happens when people who have actually specced AV decide to come at you.
My personal fav is the STB clown cars. I don't know if they do this for others, but I get this treatment everytime.
2 LLAV's, 5 or 6 guys, all with AV grenades, some with swarms, and at least Roman with his prof 4 forge along for the ride. After they pop you, you call out another tank and have another go at them. Maybe you pop one lav and get away for a bit, maybe you make a nice escape back to your base, maybe they pop you again because you could only take out one cars worth of people.
When you start dealing with those scenarios, then you come and talk to me about tanking solo.
You and Void are opposite sides of the same coin. Drama queens who think that anything other than your way is the end of the game. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 04:50:00 -
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Atiim wrote: I dont use hardners
Then you don't tank.
Either that or you redline rail snipe stacking plates, in which case you are an even bigger scrub than I thought.
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Posted - 2013.10.28 04:51:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:
Assuming that I don't land a single hit on him, can any tank survive 3 Lai Dais? No e
If the second hardener and rep are already going, of course they can survive that. Goes to show everybody that you lie about being a tanker.
From full health, no reps or hardeners running, on a 180 nano plate, 3 Lai Dais leave you with under 300 armour, if I remember correctly.
Been a long time since I was that stupid. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
I run my Maddy solo all the time and do just fine.
Atiim wrote:I rarely use LLAVs to rep me.
Try and keep your stuff straight. |
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote: Want proof?
Anyways, I've decided to stop upgrading my tank and go for Amor Plates lvl 5, as I plan on trying out the heavies soon and figured that since i've already got it @ lvl 3 I might as well finish the skillbook
But the only things I've yet to try are Nitrous and Harders. And I know nitrous can save you in a jiffy when people decide to OB your tank.
SP is so sacred that I doubt anyone "fiddles" with it TBH
Armor hardeners are not "fiddled" with. They are required for tanking. No debate, no argument, if you don't have armor hardeners then you are not tanking. You are probably sitting around in a 9000 HP sniper fit.
A tank without hardeners, even with three logi LAVs, is not standing up to even two guys with swarms. Remote reps to not posses enough rep to keep you up.
BTW, when these three random LLAVs showed up, how did you just so happen to find the only three randoms who run remote armor reps on a Limbus to escort you?
I have had a single random do it, and on more than one occasion, a second LLAV has showed up to assist my own LLAV driver.
But three Limbii(Limbuses?) showing up with remote reps, as a random event?
Nope, not buying it. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:15:00 -
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Atiim wrote: Yeah sorry for not being 100% exact. I don't always run my Madrugar solo, but when I do run solo, I do just fine
Without hardeners?
So what is your fit then, that does fine by yourself versus proto AV? |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:18:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:this thread is not about balance. it is about AV is nerfed. tanks are buffed. Basically, we have all been with gimped tanks forever and we will be playing Tank 514. I'm very happy. Stop arguing the the Luokos and Checkmates, and just enjoy the fact that they cant solo us anymore and we will make everypony cry with our super awesome OP death machines.
Now you are drinking the kool-aid.
How it looks on paper and how it plays on the PS3 are not always the same.
How about before we go making silly predictions, we all just sit back, drink a beer, and wait for the changes to actually go into play?
I don't predict Tank dominance, because I know more than enough people have acquired a taste for tank killing these last few months, and those WP are a drug they will not easily shake.
Bad tankers are still going ot try and do stupid **** and get blasted for attempting it. Good AV troops will still corner, pin, or ambush tanks, even those driven by skilled pilots.
All I am hoping for is some balance, where AV, infantry and vehicles all have their place, all have their weaknesses, and all have their strengths.
Hopefully we can get there, and hopefully the forthcoming patch is the first step. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote: Well, since AV is no longer ANTI-VEHICLE, but humble waterguns, I may as well just join you in your "super awesome OP death machines"
I'm still gonna file that help ticket though.
Since you don't even need hardeners, AV must already be a watergun.
Tell me your tank fit. |
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:1x 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates 1x 60mm Reinforced Steel Plates 1x F/45 Damage Control Unit 2x Beta PG extenders ST-01 Missile Launchers 2x 20GJ Blasters I usually klll the ppl with swarms first and I do it with ease, then again mentally challenged ppl do have problems aiming with missile turrets Anyways I'll show you and everyone else on this thread my tank right know if you want.
I am waiting until tomorrow night to activate a booster on my heavy alt. Then you can bring that ragged POS out for me to solo.
If you dare to come out of the redline with that fit. |
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