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![Assert Dominance Assert Dominance](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Assert Dominance
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:27:00 -
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Does ccp know how PC is played? Forges on top of rooftops you win. All letters and most of the ground covered, its a joke. Forge needs no splash damage. Thats what makes the forge gun so powerful against infantry. It takes a skilled forger to take out infantry directly but should have no problem taking out vehicles. Just my opinion. |
![SoTa PoP SoTa PoP](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
4159
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:29:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Does ccp know how PC is played? Forges on top of rooftops you win. All letters and most of the ground covered, its a joke. Forge needs no splash damage. Thats what makes the forge gun so powerful against infantry. It takes a skilled forger to take out infantry directly but should have no problem taking out vehicles. Just my opinion. Don't nerf FG. It's all heavies have... because lolhmg. |
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Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
760
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:31:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:Does ccp know how PC is played? Forges on top of rooftops you win. All letters and most of the ground covered, its a joke. Forge needs no splash damage. Thats what makes the forge gun so powerful against infantry. It takes a skilled forger to take out infantry directly but should have no problem taking out vehicles. Just my opinion. Don't nerf FG. It's all heavies have... because lolhmg.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1272
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:31:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:Does ccp know how PC is played? Forges on top of rooftops you win. All letters and most of the ground covered, its a joke. Forge needs no splash damage. Thats what makes the forge gun so powerful against infantry. It takes a skilled forger to take out infantry directly but should have no problem taking out vehicles. Just my opinion. Don't nerf FG. It's all heavies have... because lolhmg. Screw that, might as well give tanks the run of the field. It's the only thing left to stop them. |
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
176
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:32:00 -
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To asnwer your answer, BOTH.
To answer your complain: No, not all the Forgers camp on tower, so the splash need to stay ( lower the radus,) because is a way to do DMG before engage a combat with a sidearm. Or as a finisher.
EDIT: get rid of the noob holding charge variant |
![BARDAS BARDAS](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
731
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:33:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote: Don't nerf FG. It's all heavies have... because lolhmg.
Unless you are a Scout then its, "oh **** HMG... and dead". |
![Brigitte Newt Brigitte Newt](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_amarr_128.jpg)
Brigitte Newt
Seraphim Initiative..
71
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:34:00 -
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Read the description for FG. It's both. |
![SoTa PoP SoTa PoP](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
4159
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:35:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: Don't nerf FG. It's all heavies have... because lolhmg.
Unless you are a Scout then its, "oh **** HMG... and dead". If you're a scout any guy with a weapon who sees you = you dead. Lol |
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1221
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:59:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:Does ccp know how PC is played? Forges on top of rooftops you win. All letters and most of the ground covered, its a joke. Forge needs no splash damage. Thats what makes the forge gun so powerful against infantry. It takes a skilled forger to take out infantry directly but should have no problem taking out vehicles. Just my opinion. Don't nerf FG. It's all heavies have... because lolhmg. Too late! CCP is "looking at it"... |
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1576
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:26:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Does ccp know how PC is played? Forges on top of rooftops you win. All letters and most of the ground covered, its a joke. Forge needs no splash damage. Thats what makes the forge gun so powerful against infantry. It takes a skilled forger to take out infantry directly but should have no problem taking out vehicles. Just my opinion. dident... i talk about this in IRC chat and you shot me down? |
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![THUNDERGROOVE THUNDERGROOVE](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1166
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:57:00 -
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Anti-Material.
You're material That LAV is material The ground is material
Your face is even material. Nothing more fun than a forge direct hit that just so happened to be a headshot.
Fix the HMG and you can cut the splash radius of my forge. |
![Paran Tadec Paran Tadec](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
1493
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:01:00 -
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Brigitte Newt wrote:Read the description for FG. It's both.
"Anti-Material" in the description refers to "materiel" or military hardware, ie. vehicles, turrets, but not infantry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materiel |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
3760
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:01:00 -
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like thundergroove said its technically am antimaterial weapon, in other words its designed to **** up everything. now if we got frostbite 3 destruction things could get really interesting with it... |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1294
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:02:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Does ccp know how PC is played?
Needs more droplink/nanohive/nade/duvie spam. |
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Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
1493
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:02:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Anti-Material.
You're material That LAV is material The ground is material
Your face is even material. Nothing more fun than a forge direct hit that just so happened to be a headshot.
Fix the HMG and you can cut the splash radius of my forge.
Except thats wrong, see above post. |
![THUNDERGROOVE THUNDERGROOVE](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1166
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:04:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Brigitte Newt wrote:Read the description for FG. It's both. "Anti-Material" in the description refers to "materiel" or military hardware, ie. vehicles, turrets, but not infantry. If you're not material then what are you? Just air? How does a merc made of air do anything? How do you hold a gun? |
![Alaika Arbosa Alaika Arbosa](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_minmatar_128.jpg)
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:09:00 -
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I think it would best be described as "anti anything directly in front of it" |
![Paran Tadec Paran Tadec](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:11:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Brigitte Newt wrote:Read the description for FG. It's both. "Anti-Material" in the description refers to "materiel" or military hardware, ie. vehicles, turrets, but not infantry. If you're not material then what are you? Just air? How does a merc made of air do anything? How do you hold a gun?
Again, its from the french "materiel" which is in ref to military hardware. In english it is supposed to be spelled the same way but usually isnt.
I believe the word you are looking for is "matter." Yes, everything is made of matter, including man and materiel.
http://grammar.about.com/od/alightersideofwriting/a/Material-And-Materiel.htm |
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Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
2755
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:13:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: Don't nerf FG. It's all heavies have... because lolhmg.
Unless you are a Scout then its, "oh **** HMG... and dead".
There are times where I find myself saying.
"Oh ****, Plasma Cannon!"
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Jason Pearson
Animus Securities
3065
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:14:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Brigitte Newt wrote:Read the description for FG. It's both. "Anti-Material" in the description refers to "materiel" or military hardware, ie. vehicles, turrets, but not infantry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materiel
You're in a powered dropsuit.. so a little mech I guess. And, surely just because you're not a vehicle doesn't mean it won't destroy you, soz.
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Phazoid
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:15:00 -
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anti material, nah dont touch it, just make it deal 15% less damge to heavy armor, 100% to medium vehicles and 120% to light vehicles |
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Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:25:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Brigitte Newt wrote:Read the description for FG. It's both. "Anti-Material" in the description refers to "materiel" or military hardware, ie. vehicles, turrets, but not infantry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materiel
What about the 50. cal sniper rifle or the 12.7 mm heavy machinegun they are by design anti-material weapons, but they are pretty damnn effective against infantry aswell.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:31:00 -
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Powerh8er wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Brigitte Newt wrote:Read the description for FG. It's both. "Anti-Material" in the description refers to "materiel" or military hardware, ie. vehicles, turrets, but not infantry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materiel What about the 50. cal sniper rifle or the 12.7 mm heavy machinegun they are by design anti-material weapons, but they are pretty damnn effective against infantry aswell. can we just agree that it doesn't matter how pedantic you want to be, a weapon firing a projectile at a speed excess of 7000m/s is just going to **** up whatever it hits? end of the day a weapon designed to pierce through military grade arnour is going to seriously screw up the squishy stuff behind the armour. |
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
244
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:44:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: Don't nerf FG. It's all heavies have... because lolhmg.
Unless you are a Scout then its, "oh **** HMG... and dead". SO TRUE |
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
591
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:46:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:Does ccp know how PC is played? Forges on top of rooftops you win. All letters and most of the ground covered, its a joke. Forge needs no splash damage. Thats what makes the forge gun so powerful against infantry. It takes a skilled forger to take out infantry directly but should have no problem taking out vehicles. Just my opinion. Don't nerf FG. It's all heavies have... because lolhmg. Don't nerf an OP gun because another somewhat related gun is UP? The solution here is to make the HMG better, and nerf the FG. |
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:50:00 -
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The oft used phrase, "Men and Materiel" implies that infantry units are not materiel.
It's primarily AV, but a bazooka will kill infantry too. It's just not as easy or cost effective. |
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Xender17
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:55:00 -
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The swarm says anti-material too. Soo no... its not both. |
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Chris F2112
High-Damage Public Disorder.
477
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:02:00 -
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Being able to camp on a roof with a forge gun is a dumb mechanic. It's not fun for anyone involved except possibly the forge gunner.
The way I see it the forge gun needs to either lose it's splash damage completely or have some inaccuracy when firing. The way I see it right now it's an all purpose death machine vs both vehicles and infantry and that needs to change. |
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Harpyja
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:06:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Being able to camp on a roof with a forge gun is a dumb mechanic. It's not fun for anyone involved except possibly the forge gunner.
The way I see it the forge gun needs to either lose it's splash damage completely or have some inaccuracy when firing. The way I see it right now it's an all purpose death machine vs both vehicles and infantry and that needs to change. Forge guns need shot deviation reintroduced. Make assault forges least accurate and breaches most accurate.
Also with the vehicle changes, all forge gun damage needs to be decreased to be kept in line with the reduced slot layouts and EHP tanks have as well as the reduction of AV nades and swarm damage output. |
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Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:38:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Being able to camp on a roof with a forge gun is a dumb mechanic. It's not fun for anyone involved except possibly the forge gunner.
The way I see it the forge gun needs to either lose it's splash damage completely or have some inaccuracy when firing. The way I see it right now it's an all purpose death machine vs both vehicles and infantry and that needs to change. yeah i honestly think it should have a bit of inaccuracy.
maybe a slight sway that makes the forge gun more inaccurate over increased distances. |
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