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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:37:00 -
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Since I've known a few newbros leave due to the complexity of this game when starting out. That and the pub stomping from those that should know better. I think the introduction of PVE contracts will teach them more about the game before they venture out into pvp.
Of course CCP advertising the game a bit more as well wouldn't hurt.
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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
482
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:48:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Since I've known a few newbros leave due to the complexity of this game when starting out. That and the pub stomping from those that should know better. I think the introduction of PVE contracts will teach them more about the game before they venture out into pvp.
Of course CCP advertising the game a bit more as well wouldn't hurt.
Um i have been playing dust since closed beta and i also got to play eve with my father. As soon as pve comes out pvp can rot in a trash can because it will never be touched by me and many others ever again. PVE=fun,friendship,teamwork,and positive feed back for dust. PVP=stress,trolls,nerf fiends and haters. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3581
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:50:00 -
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It'll keep the oldbros like me as well. I'm just about done with PvP for now, just want to chill with my corp, rack up some ISK and loot, sell it and get back to FWing. |
Cross Ragweed
The Neutral Zone
6
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:53:00 -
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sorry, dumb guy here, please explain PvP and PvE |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
435
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:55:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Since I've known a few newbros leave due to the complexity of this game when starting out. That and the pub stomping from those that should know better. I think the introduction of PVE contracts will teach them more about the game before they venture out into pvp.
Of course CCP advertising the game a bit more as well wouldn't hurt.
Sorry... there is no PvE... the drones are player-purchased and deployed by the player to fight for him... It's not as if there's a human vs drone game mode or what ever stuff you're thinking of... |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
981
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:55:00 -
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Cross Ragweed wrote:sorry, dumb guy here, please explain PvP and PvE
Player vs Player.
Player vs Environment.
In this case the "environment" would most likely be rogue drones and some type of gameplay that would involve you and a squad breaching a district and killing some drones for rewards. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
483
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:10:00 -
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Rogue hamsters...now thats some scary pve  |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
177
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:13:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Jade Dragonis wrote:Since I've known a few newbros leave due to the complexity of this game when starting out. That and the pub stomping from those that should know better. I think the introduction of PVE contracts will teach them more about the game before they venture out into pvp.
Of course CCP advertising the game a bit more as well wouldn't hurt.
Um i have been playing dust since closed beta and i also got to play eve with my father. As soon as pve comes out pvp can rot in a trash can because it will never be touched by me and many others ever again. PVE=fun,friendship,teamwork,and positive feed back for dust. PVP=stress,trolls,nerf fiends and haters.
So you advocate protostomping in pubgames and then say this
PVP can be fun, friendship, teamwork and positive feedback if matches were balanced and not ruined by a minority of protostomping trolls .. you are the ones ruining it for everyone else and you'll probably ruin PVE too |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
483
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:19:00 -
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Rinzler is following me lol. to bad he wont be able to do it for long. |
Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
228
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:38:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Jade Dragonis wrote:Since I've known a few newbros leave due to the complexity of this game when starting out. That and the pub stomping from those that should know better. I think the introduction of PVE contracts will teach them more about the game before they venture out into pvp.
Of course CCP advertising the game a bit more as well wouldn't hurt.
Sorry... there is no PvE... the drones are player-purchased and deployed by the player to fight for him... It's not as if there's a human vs drone game mode or what ever stuff you're thinking of...
So because the drones are player controlled it isn't actually pve but a version of PvP.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1741
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:44:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Jade Dragonis wrote:Since I've known a few newbros leave due to the complexity of this game when starting out. That and the pub stomping from those that should know better. I think the introduction of PVE contracts will teach them more about the game before they venture out into pvp.
Of course CCP advertising the game a bit more as well wouldn't hurt.
Sorry... there is no PvE... the drones are player-purchased and deployed by the player to fight for him... It's not as if there's a human vs drone game mode or what ever stuff you're thinking of...
Umm, yes, PVE is on the drawing board. Frankly I expected it sooner. The lack of PVE is one of the things really hurting Dust right now. |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
437
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:43:00 -
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I agree with the OP and I'm excited to see it rolled out. |
WASTED MERC
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
30
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Posted - 2013.10.30 14:54:00 -
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[/quote] PVE=fun,friendship,teamwork,and positive feed back for dust. PVP=stress,trolls,nerf fiends and haters.[/quote]
More people will play PVP I personally prefer PVE
Lack of PVE hurting dust?
Last time i played dust was 1.1 were typical player count was about 5,000
I just started playing again this week, player count is now 20,000+ |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1718
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:00:00 -
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I'm sure as hell not touching another pub match when PVE comes out, it's either that, PC, or FW.
Everything else can rot.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
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Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
174
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:01:00 -
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Yep one of the big game changers/savers and CCP won't work on it, even if it's little bits now and then |
JieXi Bao
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:08:00 -
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PVE=fun,friendship,teamwork,and positive feed back for dust. PVP=stress,trolls,nerf fiends and haters.[/quote]
More people will play PVP I personally prefer PVE
Lack of PVE hurting dust?
Last time i played dust was 1.1 were typical player count was about 5,000
I just started playing again this week, player count is now 20,000+[/quote]
That player count is a little (ha!) misleading. That's including Eve and Dust players together.
Confucius say: Man who get in pissing contest on internet ruin computer.
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Ripley Riley
Pheonix Corp Selectus
Infinitus Unitas
16
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:08:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Since I've known a few newbros leave due to the complexity of this game when starting out. That and the pub stomping from those that should know better. I think the introduction of PVE contracts will teach them more about the game before they venture out into pvp.
I would love to get some PvE going in Dust. I know that several buddies would play much more often if we had some PvE content we could co-op together. It would breath some life into this game, that I deeply enjoy, but also feel is getting more stale by the week.
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Sorry... there is no PvE... the drones are player-purchased and deployed by the player to fight for him... It's not as if there's a human vs drone game mode or what ever stuff you're thinking of...
Can I get a source cited on this? I have seen that teaser video where some mercs fight a few rogue drones, but nothing more than that has been said about PvE to my knowledge. |
R F Gyro
Clones 4u
602
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:19:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Um i have been playing dust since closed beta and i also got to play eve with my father. As soon as pve comes out pvp can rot in a trash can because it will never be touched by me and many others ever again. PVE=fun,friendship,teamwork,and positive feed back for dust. PVP=stress,trolls,nerf fiends and haters.
Don't get your hopes up that CCP can make a PvE experience that doesn't get boring after a week or two. They really don't have a lot of experience in AI design. Expect lots of "OK, now Bob, kill the last drone on the right; Fred and Jane, get ready for the respawn behind the stairs; Fred, they'll see you first so concentrate on drawing their fire while Jane kills them".
I expect Dust PvE to be more of a tutorial and feeder exercise for new players than something that will keep you playing for years.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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Ripley Riley
Pheonix Corp Selectus
Infinitus Unitas
16
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:28:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Um i have been playing dust since closed beta and i also got to play eve with my father. As soon as pve comes out pvp can rot in a trash can because it will never be touched by me and many others ever again. PVE=fun,friendship,teamwork,and positive feed back for dust. PVP=stress,trolls,nerf fiends and haters. Don't get your hopes up that CCP can make a PvE experience that doesn't get boring after a week or two. They really don't have a lot of experience in AI design. Expect lots of "OK, now Bob, kill the last drone on the right; Fred and Jane, get ready for the respawn behind the stairs; Fred, they'll see you first so concentrate on drawing their fire while Jane kills them". I expect Dust PvE to be more of a tutorial and feeder exercise for new players than something that will keep you playing for years.
While you might be right about the silly AI part, I think that it would still help new players get familiar with Dust. It would also allow players to try out fits before taking them into the real world (PvP). Plus, at this point, anything besides ambush, skirmish, and domination would be a WELCOME addition. |
steadyhand amarr
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
EoN.
1641
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:41:00 -
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Placing good money on a summer release so it can tie in with eve my understanding is Its now on the roadmap ready for a team to take on. Can't wait tbh nice chill gamemode to earn some isk :-D
"my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword"
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
212
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:52:00 -
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WASTED MERC wrote:
Last time i played dust was 1.1 were typical player count was about 5,000
I just started playing again this week, player count is now 20,000+
You are more than likely looking at the numbers for the Tranquility server, which represents both Dust and Eve players.
Here is a link for some supposedly more accurate numbers-
http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
On the OP, yes, I've come to believe Dust needs PvE soon. I feel that the WP cap on the Battle Academy is as low as it is to prevent people from ISK farming, plus it is of no help when new players actually make the jump from BA to the real world. PvE would be nothing but a positive for Dust in general, in my opinion. |
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