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Mr-Tickles
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:21:00 -
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Yesterday, My Corp mate had his name of six months taken away from him as it was deemed offensive. his name was "September11 2000 fun" a name he took from the American prime time TV series Family Guy. If this name was SO offensive to people, then why has the American FCC allowing it to be continually aired on prime time television?. This came as a shock, but we know of the culprit who submitted the report on him. The culprit was a self described vehicle veteran and while the man did have some mad skills he was a bit of an ******* to the squad barking out orders and such and taking all the fun out of the match. Subsequently he was kicked from the squad. I might add that he found our squad through the squad finder and "September11 2000 fun" was the squad leader. He even stated that he joined our squad because he liked his name. After having his inflated ego bruised, he then submitted a request to have his name removed deeming it offensive, and CCP complied. This power of censorship was given to this whiny player by CCP. It could be you that is next. Like this post if you agree this player went too far. and was given too much power. when all he had to do is block my friend.
"If you don't like it, don't read it" - Larry Flint. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:25:00 -
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damn |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:26:00 -
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Although I do find the name funny, it's only funny to those who saw the episode of Family Guy. I can imagine that even if that player you mentioned never saw the name, eventually someone else would complain about it. I'm just surprised that it took six months for someone to notice at all. |
SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
4033
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:33:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:Yesterday, My Corp mate had his name of six months taken away from him as it was deemed offensive. his name was "September11 2000 fun" a name he took from the American prime time TV series Family Guy. If this name was SO offensive to people, then why has the American FCC allowing it to be continually aired on prime time television?. This came as a shock, but we know of the culprit who submitted the report on him. The culprit was a self described vehicle veteran and while the man did have some mad skills he was a bit of an ******* to the squad barking out orders and such and taking all the fun out of the match. Subsequently he was kicked from the squad. I might add that he found our squad through the squad finder and "September11 2000 fun" was the squad leader. He even stated that he joined our squad because he liked his name. After having his inflated ego bruised, he then submitted a request to have his name removed deeming it offensive, and CCP complied. This power of censorship was given to this whiny player by CCP. It could be you that is next. Like this post if you agree this player went too far. and was given too much power. when all he had to do is block my friend.
"If you don't like it, don't read it" - Larry Flint. Comedy Central allows cussing and has shown nudity - does that mean it's okay for everyone to allow those things?
Personally idc - but your logic is skewed in favor of your friend. What's allowed on cable TV has nothing to do with what's allowed on a player to player interactive environment. Your friend had a bad name - someone used it against him to accomplish his own vendetta. That's life. Accept it and move on instead of crying that it's unfair when it's your friends fault for having bad taste. |
Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:38:00 -
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I see foul names all the time, I am surprised did anything. I think I saw a guy by the name of "Anus Destroyer" in a pub match last week but I guess that's cool
Also -- why not just rename the toon rather than delete it, that seems overly harsh. |
Mr-Tickles
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:40:00 -
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Agreed, but that's all he is guilty of is bad taste. The point I'm making is the power given to said vindictive player. If it were multiple players complaining then sure my friend would have just taken a new name. And I'm not taking about Comedy central, I'm talking FOX prime time. |
Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:42:00 -
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I have no problems with names like these.
They're made as jokes, and that is how they should be seen.
Anyone who takes offense needs to harden up, unless its something completely unreasonable, I dont see a problem with it. |
Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
2708
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:44:00 -
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Slag Emberforge wrote:I see foul names all the time, I am surprised did anything. I think I saw a guy by the name of "Anus Destroyer" in a pub match last week but I guess that's cool
Also -- why not just rename the toon rather than delete it, that seems overly harsh.
You're not deleted when you get reported.
Your name is just changed to something like "Minmatar Mercenary 'Insert Number here'" or something similar.
At least, thats how I think it works. |
Mr-Tickles
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:47:00 -
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Ya he has a new name and prison # and is appealing the change. |
SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
4034
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:49:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:I have no problems with names like these.
They're made as jokes, and that is how they should be seen.
Anyone who takes offense needs to harden up, unless its something completely unreasonable, I dont see a problem with it. The name is taking a major tragedy that killed thousands of americans and caused a war in the middle east... and calling it fun.
It's a name in bad taste. You get what you deserve making a name like that. |
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Mr-Tickles
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:53:00 -
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Blame your own military industrial complex for that one. The tragedy isn't the issue here. censorship is. I'm not starting a debate over 9/11. |
SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
4034
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:56:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:Blame your own military industrial complex for that one. The tragedy isn't the issue here. censorship is. No - the censorship is not the issue. You and your friend accepting bad taste is. If any one person reported that offensive name it would of been removed - period. QQing because it was done by someone you don't like isn't justification for anything. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
430
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:00:00 -
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Same reason why one can not name them self "Adolf ******".
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The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1284
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:01:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote: The name is taking a major tragedy that killed thousands of americans and caused a war in the middle east... and calling it fun.
It's a name in bad taste. You get what you deserve making a name like that.
9/11 did not cause a war in the middle east. It was used as an excuse for two of them, but that is all.
I had seen the guy around, thought the name was a great one.
I agree that using a name like that is asking for someone to report it, and CCP did exactly what they should have done.
But the name is funny.
Since we are all here though, lets take a moment and remember:
The first, and more important 9/11 |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
430
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:01:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:Same reason why one can not name them self "Adolf ******".
See ^ point proven, censorship at its finest. |
Mr-Tickles
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:01:00 -
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You must be American? right? I guess you don't believe in freedom of speech. Probably because it has been taken away from you. Hope you enjoy your coming police state. |
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves DARKSTAR ARMY
252
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:03:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:Yesterday, My Corp mate had his name of six months taken away from him as it was deemed offensive. his name was "September11 2000 fun" a name he took from the American prime time TV series Family Guy. If this name was SO offensive to people, then why has the American FCC allowing it to be continually aired on prime time television?. This came as a shock, but we know of the culprit who submitted the report on him. The culprit was a self described vehicle veteran and while the man did have some mad skills he was a bit of an ******* to the squad barking out orders and such and taking all the fun out of the match. Subsequently he was kicked from the squad. I might add that he found our squad through the squad finder and "September11 2000 fun" was the squad leader. He even stated that he joined our squad because he liked his name. After having his inflated ego bruised, he then submitted a request to have his name removed deeming it offensive, and CCP complied. This power of censorship was given to this whiny player by CCP. It could be you that is next. Like this post if you agree this player went too far. and was given too much power. when all he had to do is block my friend.
"If you don't like it, don't read it" - Larry Flint.
I'm more suprised that you didn't see this coming with a name like that.
Also, The creators of Family Guy have enough money to get away with this stuff. You, on the other hand, don't. Welcome to real life.
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The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1284
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:03:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:You must be American? right? I guess you don't believe in freedom of speech. Probably because it has been taken away from you. Hope you enjoy your coming police state.
Overblown, reactionary drivel.
You are not being silenced, or deprived your rights of speech by having your character names limited in a video game. |
SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
4037
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:05:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:You must be American? right? I guess you don't believe in freedom of speech. Probably because it has been taken away from you. Hope you enjoy your coming police state. What an arrogant statement. Freedom of speech doesn't allow you to scream fire in a theater. Go home kid. Your weak statement have no place here. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
430
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:06:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:You must be American? right? I guess you don't believe in freedom of speech. Probably because it has been taken away from you. Hope you enjoy your coming police state. I am American and I believe in freedom of speech and could give two fucks what you call yourself TBH, but some other people may take offense to it. |
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:10:00 -
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Meh. Way i look at it you pick a name like that you're asking for it. Now your buddy gets called on it and you're here crying on the forums.
Thanks for that. It gives me a little giggle. |
Mr-Tickles
s i n g u l a r i t y
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:11:00 -
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Oh don't get me wrong, I saw it coming and so did he. Who wouldn't? you'd have to be blind not to see that coming. The only thing that is bothersome is the power that player had been given. Like I stated before he even liked the name and though it awesome before he was kicked. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
699
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:12:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:I have no problems with names like these.
They're made as jokes, and that is how they should be seen.
Anyone who takes offense needs to harden up, unless its something completely unreasonable, I dont see a problem with it.
Not everyone sees it as joke, thats a personal opinion.
I would like you to tell those who lost someone during that day to "HTFU". Seriously I do. I wouldnt make a lighthearted joke if someone you cared about died in that manner, so I see no reason why you would do the same, then again, I guess you're different.
Regarding OP and his "friend", he took the risks, broke the EULA, and payed the price. He saw it coming, if not, feigned ignorance. Nothing else to be said here. |
Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:14:00 -
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Easy guys don't feed the troll (Tickles) |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:14:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:
"If you don't like it, don't read it" - Larry Flint.
Kind of a fail when if he does kill you its pops up with his name on this big ass card in the middle of the screen telling you how he killed you |
Mr-Tickles
s i n g u l a r i t y
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:15:00 -
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Troll? It's my thread! LOL BTW why wasn't the f word just censored? |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
840
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:16:00 -
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I love family guy but that name could only offend, I personally couldn't care less about someone's name but that name could only offend possibly offend others. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
649
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:17:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:Yesterday, My Corp mate had his name of six months taken away from him as it was deemed offensive. his name was "September11 2000 fun" a name he took from the American prime time TV series Family Guy. If this name was SO offensive to people, then why has the American FCC allowing it to be continually aired on prime time television?. This came as a shock, but we know of the culprit who submitted the report on him. The culprit was a self described vehicle veteran and while the man did have some mad skills he was a bit of an ******* to the squad barking out orders and such and taking all the fun out of the match. Subsequently he was kicked from the squad. I might add that he found our squad through the squad finder and "September11 2000 fun" was the squad leader. He even stated that he joined our squad because he liked his name. After having his inflated ego bruised, he then submitted a request to have his name removed deeming it offensive, and CCP complied. This power of censorship was given to this whiny player by CCP. It could be you that is next. Like this post if you agree this player went too far. and was given too much power. when all he had to do is block my friend.
"If you don't like it, don't read it" - Larry Flint.
I'm getting your named banned muthaf*cker. How dare you invoke the fine legacy of Jerry Sandusky, patron saint of NAMBLA. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
432
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:22:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:Troll? It's my thread! LOL BTW why wasn't the f word just censored? Yeah what the fucks is going on around here? |
Mr-Tickles
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:22:00 -
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While All of you have very valid points, and opinions. and I do respect them all. I was just looking for feedback. My friend said he will wear his new prison # with pride. And Sota I'm no kid, and there's even a slim chance I banged you mom while you sat watching cartoons and eating crunch berries. |
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SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
4037
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:27:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:While All of you have very valid points, and opinions. and I do respect them all. I was just looking for feedback. My friend said he will wear his new prison # with pride. And Sota I'm no kid, and there's even a slim chance I banged you mom while you sat watching cartoons and eating crunch berries. *Anime
Don't be mad I shut down your terrible logic and spanked you. Learn the lesson: Keep QQ out of the forums unless it's about weapon balance.
We all love weapon balance QQ.
Now run a long kid - only a child would support such a terrible name and rage about it on the forums. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4669
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:28:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:You must be American? right? I guess you don't believe in freedom of speech. Probably because it has been taken away from you. Hope you enjoy your coming police state.
Hey, dude.
Guess what! Even in America your rights don't exist. Freedom of speech let's you say things, but only until certain groups come out and tell you no and then force you to do a public apology. You think you have a right to privacy? Guess what, the NSA has been snooping in your emails for over a decade and they know what pron you like.
Welcome to reality. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6328
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:30:00 -
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I could go on a lecture about freedom of speech vs ELUA bindings, standards and practice, and what should be considered bad taste, but I think I can sum it up in one simple statement:
If you ever have an inkling that what you're doing might be offensive to someone or anyone, it's safer to not put yourself in that position. Not everyone may get the joke. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1348
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:34:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:Yesterday, My Corp mate had his name of six months taken away from him as it was deemed offensive. his name was "September11 2000 fun" a name he took from the American prime time TV series Family Guy. If this name was SO offensive to people, then why has the American FCC allowing it to be continually aired on prime time television?. This came as a shock, but we know of the culprit who submitted the report on him. The culprit was a self described vehicle veteran and while the man did have some mad skills he was a bit of an ******* to the squad barking out orders and such and taking all the fun out of the match. Subsequently he was kicked from the squad. I might add that he found our squad through the squad finder and "September11 2000 fun" was the squad leader. He even stated that he joined our squad because he liked his name. After having his inflated ego bruised, he then submitted a request to have his name removed deeming it offensive, and CCP complied. This power of censorship was given to this whiny player by CCP. It could be you that is next. Like this post if you agree this player went too far. and was given too much power. when all he had to do is block my friend.
"If you don't like it, don't read it" - Larry Flint. I seriously doubt the GĮĢFox GadenGĮĨ will be the next to fall prey to the sensors.
The name GĮĢSeptember11 2000 funGĮĨ is offensive. The humour of Family Guy relies on the shock value of offensive stuff to surprise the audience and make them laugh. It walks a fine line, because if the material is not shocking enough people wonGĮÖt find it funny, and if the material is too shocking then people wonGĮÖt find it funny.
I would say that if it aired on National Television in the country that the joke pokes at, then that is grounds for appeal. He might want to try putting in a ticket about it, explaining the origin of the name. Maybe they will reconsider.
Although to be quite honest, the name sucks, and I am sure your friend could find a better one if he thought about it. You did much better than your friend did on name choice. |
Mr-Tickles
s i n g u l a r i t y
2
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:35:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I could go on a lecture about freedom of speech vs ELUA bindings, standards and practice, and what should be considered bad taste, but I think I can sum it up in one simple statement:
If you ever have an inkling that what you're doing might be offensive to someone or anyone, it's safer to not put yourself in that position. Not everyone may get the joke.
Well said. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1348
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:37:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:Oh don't get me wrong, I saw it coming and so did he. Who wouldn't? you'd have to be blind not to see that coming. The only thing that is bothersome is the power that player had been given. Like I stated before he even liked the name and though it awesome before he was kicked. Oh, come on! Your friend gave that guy power over him by choosing that name. The dude would have had no such power over me. |
Mr-Tickles
s i n g u l a r i t y
3
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:45:00 -
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Thanks to all of you for the feedback. See you in New Eden. I could care less either way, but my friend's PC fried and I was just here to gain him some feedback before he submits a ticket. He sends his thanks. |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
576
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:08:00 -
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Didn't that event occur in 2001? PS, almost every date on the calendar can be associated with a tragedy, so why all the flair about one particular one? |
Mass Heals
Subsonic Synthetics
102
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:08:00 -
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Thanks a lot Osama. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
701
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:15:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Didn't that event occur in 2001? PS, almost every date on the calendar can be associated with a tragedy, so why all the flair about one particular one?
If you say 2000fun really fast, you'll get something similar to 2001 but with the word "fun" associated with that specific date. Just look at press about 200fun or 2000fun family guy and you'll understand why many people find it over the top offensive. |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
3719
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:18:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Didn't that event occur in 2001? PS, almost every date on the calendar can be associated with a tragedy, so why all the flair about one particular one? probably the nature of the attack, and that it happened in the USA of all places, america is not used to things like that happening inside their own borders, i imagine it was a huge shock to their entire culture. i mean it was a huge shock to the rest of the world as well but a lot of countries (including the uk) have experienced terrorist attacks before, but even then nothing on the scale of 9/11. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
424
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:20:00 -
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whats so offensive about a date for a name?
oh wait.....
9/11..
ok good luck on that.. |
Gunnut88
US Military Gamers
10
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Posted - 2013.10.23 07:32:00 -
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I would have reported it to dipshit. I lost 2 family friends that I had known since I was 4 in the Pentagon that day. It damn near killed my dad when he found out they had died since he served with them for 8 years in the Air Force. That was part of my motivation for enlisting in the Army as Infantry. Want to put something that you know could offend on a game then shut the **** up when it comes back and bites you in the ass. Stupid ass ******* punks. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1664
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Posted - 2013.10.23 07:37:00 -
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It's offensive to some for many reasons. I don't find it funny because some of my family members were caught in that mess. It was no laughing matter trying to find out what's going on when you're miles away from home and you can't get through.
It's not anything to be taken lightly. Family Guy is a crass show where there's no shortage of criticism about everything that walks on this earth.
It's just not cool. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6643
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Posted - 2013.10.23 07:47:00 -
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I wonder if its safe to name a character after a pearl harbor joke now, or if that would get me reported also. |
steadyhand amarr
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1622
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Posted - 2013.10.23 07:55:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Mr-Tickles wrote:You must be American? right? I guess you don't believe in freedom of speech. Probably because it has been taken away from you. Hope you enjoy your coming police state. What an arrogant statement. Freedom of speech doesn't allow you to scream fire in a theater. Go home kid. Your weak statement have no place here.
Freedom of speech only applyes to government run areas and public places please learn ur own dam constitution and not just first 3 words.
Also eve and dust are not run or owned by a us company American laws don't apply. Also agree with soda |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6643
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Posted - 2013.10.23 07:56:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:It's offensive to some for many reasons. I don't find it funny because some of my family members were caught in that mess. It was no laughing matter trying to find out what's going on when you're miles away from home and you can't get through.
It's not anything to be taken lightly. Family Guy is a crass show where there's no shortage of criticism about everything that walks on this earth.
It's just not cool. Something being a terrible event doesn't mean jokes shouldn't exist about it, especially since many things are funny directly because they are terrible (dead baby jokes, etc); that's how dark humor works. It may not be funny to you (understandably, and I'm sorry you experienced that loss), but doesn't mean other people finding it funny is a problem, or that the joke shouldn't be made. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1665
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:07:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Michael Arck wrote:It's offensive to some for many reasons. I don't find it funny because some of my family members were caught in that mess. It was no laughing matter trying to find out what's going on when you're miles away from home and you can't get through.
It's not anything to be taken lightly. Family Guy is a crass show where there's no shortage of criticism about everything that walks on this earth.
It's just not cool. Something being a terrible event doesn't mean jokes shouldn't exist about it, especially since many things are funny directly because they are terrible (dead baby jokes, etc); that's how dark humor works. It may not be funny to you (understandably, and I'm sorry you experienced that loss), but doesn't mean other people finding it funny is a problem, or that the joke shouldn't be made.
So men and women dying in that tragic event is funny? People jumping out of buildings because their skin was melting from the heat is funny? Not knowing where your family is and not receiving answers is funny? A war that broke out from it is funny? Losing friends in that event was funny?
That's dark humor? Well I guess its dark humor when you get punched and kicked in your face for saying such offenses to the wrong person.
You guys who agree with that bs, I don't know how yall were raised, but there's just some things that you don't joke about.
9/11 is one of em and there' s plenty that would give you the whooping your parents never did but you definitely deserve for uttering such to put things in proper perspective for you.
You ever heard of the term, tact? You and others lack it greatly... |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
536
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:15:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I wonder if its safe to name a character after a pearl harbor joke now, or if that would get me reported also. There is a difference between Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Pearl Harbor was a battle, admittedly a really one sided ambush and a tragedy because people died, but a battle nonetheless. 9/11 was a terrorist attack on civilians that couldn't fight back. This is why the tactics the Japanese used at Pearl Harbor(the whole war really) are frowned upon, while whoever did 9/11 are considered cowards by most people.
That name would probably get banned though, because it would offend someone. As a general rule of thumb, don't name yourself after ANY historic conflict, no matter how long ago it happened because people like to hold on to grudges for generations. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1666
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:15:00 -
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EDIT: nevermind, leaving thread... |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6643
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:23:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Michael Arck wrote:It's offensive to some for many reasons. I don't find it funny because some of my family members were caught in that mess. It was no laughing matter trying to find out what's going on when you're miles away from home and you can't get through.
It's not anything to be taken lightly. Family Guy is a crass show where there's no shortage of criticism about everything that walks on this earth.
It's just not cool. Something being a terrible event doesn't mean jokes shouldn't exist about it, especially since many things are funny directly because they are terrible (dead baby jokes, etc); that's how dark humor works. It may not be funny to you (understandably, and I'm sorry you experienced that loss), but doesn't mean other people finding it funny is a problem, or that the joke shouldn't be made. So men and women dying in that tragic event is funny? People jumping out of buildings because their skin was melting from the heat is funny? Not knowing where your family is and not receiving answers is funny? A war that broke out from it is funny? Losing friends in that event was funny?
Well no, not by itself, but invoking it in a shock-value sort of way can be funny. I knew people I really cared about that died, but doesn't make the method of their death somehow off limits to me.
Another way something horrible can be presented as funny if it subverts your expectations and surprises you. One example: "My girlfriend is into some really strange roleplay when we have sex. She always insists on pretending to be 14 years old. I don't get why, she'll be 14 in a couple of years anyway." This joke is about something horrible, but achieves humor by using the setup to mess with our expectations. It could be argued that the 9/11 joke is funny because of its unexpected nature as well.
I'm not the one who made the name, just saying just because something is horrible it shouldn't be used in a joke. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:39:00 -
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Chooses name knowing that it will offend some people -> gets mad when name is changed
I see. |
HYENAKILLER X
Da Short Buss
314
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:42:00 -
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Its offensive, I dont like the name, and I also dont have to agree with terms of service to watch family guy.
But in rl call yourself whatever. |
Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1036
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:16:00 -
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+1 for CCP if your going to make an offensive name deal with the fallout when someone takes offense, shame racist names like whitedevil seem to be condoned though. |
CRISIS BATTLESUIT
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
12
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:24:00 -
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**** happens you thieving Canadian scum bag. |
neurol forever
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:53:00 -
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Sorry for my English.
I like report this kind of people. They thing that they are cool and rough and king of net. And after ban they crying a river. I love this. |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
300
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:06:00 -
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Mr-Tickles wrote:Yesterday, My Corp mate had his name of six months taken away from him as it was deemed offensive. his name was "September11 2000 fun" a name he took from the American prime time TV series Family Guy. If this name was SO offensive to people, then why has the American FCC allowing it to be continually aired on prime time television?. This came as a shock, but we know of the culprit who submitted the report on him. The culprit was a self described vehicle veteran and while the man did have some mad skills he was a bit of an ******* to the squad barking out orders and such and taking all the fun out of the match. Subsequently he was kicked from the squad. I might add that he found our squad through the squad finder and "September11 2000 fun" was the squad leader. He even stated that he joined our squad because he liked his name. After having his inflated ego bruised, he then submitted a request to have his name removed deeming it offensive, and CCP complied. This power of censorship was given to this whiny player by CCP. It could be you that is next. Like this post if you agree this player went too far. and was given too much power. when all he had to do is block my friend.
"If you don't like it, don't read it" - Larry Flint.
2 things 1 your quote does not apply to this situation, larry flint is talking about a magazine that is kept hidden from public view and you have to specifically ask for or pick out (some places keep it behind the counter others put a piece of cardboard up that only shows the title of the mag).
Secondly thanks to the magic of the EULA, CCP can determine what is and what is not offensive and censor as they see fit, there is no free speech in a game or on a forum. They determine the rules. Free speech only applies to speaking out loud or publicizing your own media. |
Gunnut88
US Military Gamers
12
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:23:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Michael Arck wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Michael Arck wrote:It's offensive to some for many reasons. I don't find it funny because some of my family members were caught in that mess. It was no laughing matter trying to find out what's going on when you're miles away from home and you can't get through.
It's not anything to be taken lightly. Family Guy is a crass show where there's no shortage of criticism about everything that walks on this earth.
It's just not cool. Something being a terrible event doesn't mean jokes shouldn't exist about it, especially since many things are funny directly because they are terrible (dead baby jokes, etc); that's how dark humor works. It may not be funny to you (understandably, and I'm sorry you experienced that loss), but doesn't mean other people finding it funny is a problem, or that the joke shouldn't be made. So men and women dying in that tragic event is funny? People jumping out of buildings because their skin was melting from the heat is funny? Not knowing where your family is and not receiving answers is funny? A war that broke out from it is funny? Losing friends in that event was funny? Well no, not by itself, but invoking it in a shock-value sort of way can be funny. I knew people I really cared about that died, but doesn't make the method of their death somehow off limits to me. Another way something horrible can be presented as funny if it subverts your expectations and surprises you. One example: "My girlfriend is into some really strange roleplay when we have sex. She always insists on pretending to be 14 years old. I don't get why, she'll be 14 in a couple of years anyway." This joke is about something horrible, but achieves humor by using the setup to mess with our expectations. It could be argued that the 9/11 joke is funny because of its unexpected nature as well. I'm not the one who made the name, just saying just because something is horrible it shouldn't be used successfully in a joke.
No it is not funny or appropriate to joke about events where thousands of people lost their lives and that led to war. I did 12 months in Afghanistan and that **** is not ******* funny. The 9/11 attack resulted in a war that I and many others had to fight and watch good friends die in. How the **** could you find something like that funny. You are 1 sick piece of ****. |
Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
64
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:32:00 -
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Gunnut88 wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Michael Arck wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Michael Arck wrote:It's offensive to some for many reasons. I don't find it funny because some of my family members were caught in that mess. It was no laughing matter trying to find out what's going on when you're miles away from home and you can't get through.
It's not anything to be taken lightly. Family Guy is a crass show where there's no shortage of criticism about everything that walks on this earth.
It's just not cool. Something being a terrible event doesn't mean jokes shouldn't exist about it, especially since many things are funny directly because they are terrible (dead baby jokes, etc); that's how dark humor works. It may not be funny to you (understandably, and I'm sorry you experienced that loss), but doesn't mean other people finding it funny is a problem, or that the joke shouldn't be made. So men and women dying in that tragic event is funny? People jumping out of buildings because their skin was melting from the heat is funny? Not knowing where your family is and not receiving answers is funny? A war that broke out from it is funny? Losing friends in that event was funny? Well no, not by itself, but invoking it in a shock-value sort of way can be funny. I knew people I really cared about that died, but doesn't make the method of their death somehow off limits to me. Another way something horrible can be presented as funny if it subverts your expectations and surprises you. One example: "My girlfriend is into some really strange roleplay when we have sex. She always insists on pretending to be 14 years old. I don't get why, she'll be 14 in a couple of years anyway." This joke is about something horrible, but achieves humor by using the setup to mess with our expectations. It could be argued that the 9/11 joke is funny because of its unexpected nature as well. I'm not the one who made the name, just saying just because something is horrible it shouldn't be used successfully in a joke. No it is not funny or appropriate to joke about events where thousands of people lost their lives and that led to war. I did 12 months in Afghanistan and that **** is not ******* funny. The 9/11 attack resulted in a war that I and many others had to fight and watch good friends die in. How the **** could you find something like that funny. You are 1 sick piece of ****.
It is obvious to me that OP was not directly effected by this tragedy as he was probably a young child at the time without a frame of reference. I am not defending him so much as stating that it was not his problem and he clearly lacks the mental facilities that would allow him piece together why this would be considered offensive.
Either that or his trolling level is over 9000.
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The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1303
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:49:00 -
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Gunnut88 wrote:
No it is not funny or appropriate to joke about events where thousands of people lost their lives and that led to war. I did 12 months in Afghanistan and that **** is not ******* funny. The 9/11 attack resulted in a war that I and many others had to fight and watch good friends die in. How the **** could you find something like that funny. You are 1 sick piece of ****.
I find it hilarious that Americans get all up in arms about what happens to them, but I bet you secretly make all sorts of awful jokes about the muhj when they eat a Paveway.
When I was in Afghanistan, the level of hatred for the Afghan people, and some of the jokes I heard, would offend almost anyone.
At least when I was in Chad there were fewer Americans around to disgust me with their racism masking as patriotism.
But hey, mister soft skin, I have a great joke for you.
What type of bagels do they serve at the WTC?
Plane. |
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Buttercup Chipmint
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:54:00 -
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Merica FTW! |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2133
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:56:00 -
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The TV show is also rated for older audiences than this game is rated for. That is also a consideration. |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
54
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:17:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I could go on a lecture about freedom of speech vs ELUA bindings, standards and practice, and what should be considered bad taste, but I think I can sum it up in one simple statement:
If you ever have an inkling that what you're doing might be offensive to someone or anyone, it's safer to not put yourself in that position. Not everyone may get the joke.
+1
You could always have your friend change his name to "Old Europe". That's a joke of course my friends, but you see what I did.
A lot of jokes ARE offensive, just keep that in mind. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1874
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:22:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:I have no problems with names like these.
They're made as jokes, and that is how they should be seen.
Anyone who takes offense needs to harden up, unless its something completely unreasonable, I dont see a problem with it. The name is taking a major tragedy that killed thousands of americans and caused a war in the middle east... and calling it fun. It's a name in bad taste. You get what you deserve making a name like that.
How you feel about the name isn't the issue. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3450
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:22:00 -
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Meh. Heard far far worse than this. Comes with being in a metal band.
Christ, you think the jokes are bad you should see some of the stuff we do for fun. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
479
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:28:00 -
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Thats what your friends gets for thinking he can do whatever he wants. Be a mature person and give your character a respectful name. I report any one with disgusting or inappropriate names. You dont like that? well to bad. Just because its an M rated game does not mean you can do what you want. And dont start with the stupid *I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO WHAT I WANT* trash grow up or dont play. Option two is the better choice of course. |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1303
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:33:00 -
[67] - Quote
Soldiersaint wrote:Thats what your friends gets for thinking he can do whatever he wants. Be a mature person and give your character a respectful name. I report any one with disgusting or inappropriate names. You dont like that? well to bad. Just because its an online game does not mean you can do what you want. And dont start with the stupid *I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO WHAT I WANT* trash grow up or dont play. Option two is the better choice of course.
Nobody likes a rat.
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IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
54
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:37:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Thats what your friends gets for thinking he can do whatever he wants. Be a mature person and give your character a respectful name. I report any one with disgusting or inappropriate names. You dont like that? well to bad. Just because its an online game does not mean you can do what you want. And dont start with the stupid *I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO WHAT I WANT* trash grow up or dont play. Option two is the better choice of course. Nobody likes a rat.
Especially those with 2 legs. |
Gunnut88
US Military Gamers
12
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:50:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Gunnut88 wrote:
No it is not funny or appropriate to joke about events where thousands of people lost their lives and that led to war. I did 12 months in Afghanistan and that **** is not ******* funny. The 9/11 attack resulted in a war that I and many others had to fight and watch good friends die in. How the **** could you find something like that funny. You are 1 sick piece of ****.
I find it hilarious that Americans get all up in arms about what happens to them, but I bet you secretly make all sorts of awful jokes about the muhj when they eat a Paveway. When I was in Afghanistan, the level of hatred for the Afghan people, and some of the jokes I heard, would offend almost anyone. At least when I was in Chad there were fewer Americans around to disgust me with their racism masking as patriotism. But hey, mister soft skin, I have a great joke for you. What type of bagels do they serve at the WTC? Plane.
No joke about people dieing is acceptable. Am I guilty of it yea probably especially while deployed, different time and I was a different person. That does not make it right. As for your opinions about Americans we don't give a ****. Do I like or even respect the haji's hell no but but I am not going to make a joke about them dieing. We Americans have a valid reason for disliking haji's, they killed over 3000 noncombatants on 9/11. Those that support it deserve the same fate as those who planned it, a bullet in the ******* head. As far as I am concerned if you want to make a joke about it you deserve the same. |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1310
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:23:00 -
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Gunnut88 wrote:
We Americans have a valid reason for disliking haji's, they killed over 3000 noncombatants on 9/11. Those that support it deserve the same fate as those who planned it, a bullet in the ******* head. As far as I am concerned if you want to make a joke about it you deserve the same.
OK then.
First, if killing civilians is justified because of 9/11, then 9/11 was justified by American adventures elsewhere before it.
Very slippery slope.
9/11 was a criminal act(The WTC part anyway, Pentagon is fair play), but an appropriate response was not Afghanistan, and it certainly wasn't Iraq. In fact, if you want to give yourself excuses, imagine how many 9/11's worth of credit has to be given to the Iraqis and the Pakistanis.
Killing civilians is wrong. On that score alone the US is so far ahead of Al Qaeda that it is a no contest for at least the next decade.
I just want you to know that I am out there telling the most horrible jokes about 9/11 every day. I am glad you think I deserve a bullet for that.
Now, go "defend freedom" away from me. I wouldn't trust you with a box of ammo let alone a rifle. Guys like you blow their own foot off to get home early.
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
607
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Posted - 2013.10.23 18:13:00 -
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Locked.
Should a player want to contest a decision made in relation to a name change they can do so by emailing [email protected].
The Forums aren't the appropriate place to discuss such action.
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