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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 243	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:31:00 - [1] - Quote Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 243	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:32:00 - [2] - Quote [Reserved for future posts]
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A 389	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:34:00 - [3] - Quote I use Scr because I don't like using slave's stones to kill my foe.
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 301	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:44:00 - [4] - Quote Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 90	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:47:00 - [5] - Quote Md: No Aim Assist Scr:Aim Assist
8213 Grade No.2 476	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:48:00 - [6] - Quote I was about to stop reading when you said the SCR Assault Varient... but I decided to press on.... But, my suspicions were confirmed. I'll put it this way. The SCR (non-assault) is the big boy's weapon. The skill players weapon. It WILL out do every other weapon in this game. It is not for mediocre players, and is not a pick up and go weapon. The MD... well us SCR-ers chew their heads off
Cosgar ParagonX 6222	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:51:00 - [7] - Quote Tek Hound wrote: Md: No Aim Assist Scr:Aim Assist I wouldn't use AA with a SCR either. Feels Iike a hand jerking my muzzle away when I'm aiming for the head.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1852	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:54:00 - [8] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Nope. There is in closing the distance in AA-AR 514 though
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1030	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:54:00 - [9] - Quote I reserve my Mass Driver usage for spawns on high ground these days. It's the best way to use it to gain a tactical advantage over AR squads that have an objective camped out.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 512	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:00:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. They are so different, why compare them? Each works well for different reasons and aren't competing.

Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 412	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:01:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. They are used for different things. I can easily hold off an area with a MD with K2 Hives and flux grenades on my Amarr Logistics suit. The Srambler Rifle is my weapon for flanking, and "sniping." 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down It's kinda hard to out DPS them if they have an AR when they are constantly dodging my MD rounds. And splash damage ills slowly unless the enemy is stupid.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 512	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:04:00 - [12] - Quote 8213 wrote: I was about to stop reading when you said the SCR Assault Varient... but I decided to press on.... But, my suspicions were confirmed. I'll put it this way. The SCR (non-assault) is the big boy's weapon. The skill players weapon. It WILL out do every other weapon in this game. It is not for mediocre players, and is not a pick up and go weapon. The MD... well us SCR-ers chew their heads off The Plasma Cannon is the big boys weapon.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 712	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:13:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. If you prefer Mass Drivers, your skill isn't up to a level where you can "enjoy" a Scrambler Rifle..
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 244	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:14:00 - [14] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Nope. There is in closing the distance in COD514 though Fixed
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 475	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:14:00 - [15] - Quote SCR takes finesse in comparison to the MD. It takes no skill to aim at the ground every time.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 475	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:24:00 - [16] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 441	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:31:00 - [17] - Quote This has massive bias all over it. 6 shots from Freedom can barely kill a proto suit, and that's well over 6 seconds, ARs will drop you in 1(or less). Proto Heavy forget it. Useless against elevated targets, I have no Idea why people tend to not mention this fact, it matters. Terrible in condensed CQC, new maps make this clear, it's also not a god CQC weapon. If anyone gets right in your face, they can spray and pray and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it outside of kamikaze. Breach is outclassed by swarms period because Breach is damn near useless against Infantry with a brain. RoF is just not there, you're using a bad shotgun every time. Slowest one reload time in the game, while paired with the necessity of hives make it one of the worst back-to-back battle weapons in the game. MD requires prep, which is another thing people don't ever mention. Against a seasoned opponent with an AR in a proto suit, if he sees you first within 40 meters, you're dead. If you see each other at the same time within 40 meters, you're dead. And who use shields over Amour? People who don't want to be OHK'd by a Core Lotus with a 7.2 meter splash that you can't dodge because of movement penalties. Flux + Nade isn't a good argument, why should I need 2 weapons to kill one man?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 244	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:32:00 - [18] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: SCR takes finesse in comparison to the MD. It takes no skill to aim at the ground every time. If we were talking about CQC, then I might agree with you, but everything is situation. MDs have travel time, allowing the enemies to strafe and jump away from the blast MDs rounds arc so it can be hard to aim if your not in CQC MD users without skill can easily start pressing a magic suicide button I call BS on the "finesse" part, unless you are going for OHKO headshots, but that's what my KLO-5 is for Have you gone up against a vanilla MD? (No proficiency or dmg mods) They use 6 hits to take out a starter fit! Ammo is scarce with a total of 18 rounds per clip. And the ammo skill only gives you one extra round. Forcing you to either run K-2 nanohives, or be every good with aiming. You have to either suck or try really hard to kill yourself with a SCR. MDs the other hand are very easy to commit suicide. Where the "big boys and girls are", PC, You can rack up tons of team kills if you aren't careful. Oh yeah,You can die multipule times if blueberries jump in your way while your firing. (which happens all the time) 4/10 Troll
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1230	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:44:00 - [19] - Quote I prefer the ScR for when I'm hunting enemies of the state. They may be criminals, but they still use my tech.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1927	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:08:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) 1- They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) 2- They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you 3- They have higher CPU/PG requirements 4- The MD has splash damage 5- 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything 6- The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs 7- The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) 8- They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? 9- If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) 10- MDs are user friendly 11- MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies 12- It's funny killing scouts with MDs 13- Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. You are not the only one that uses MD effectivley. The problem is that with aim assist many people have LEFT Md's to use weapons that benefit from AA.now: 1-They are pretty good in CQ, true ; but SCR is King of Med-Long Range Engagements one on one. 2-This is true,but this is on of the SCR penlties. Without them the SCR would be the best weapons. 3-Another of the SCR drawbacks. 4-Yes.But the SCR has Range. 5- 1 Charged shot from the Imperial, OHKO's some ADV suits. 6- ehem...ok. 7-ehem...ok again. the MD is supposed to be some kind of weird AV minmatar weapon. 8-I use shields over armor.Cal logis havea lot of shields and a heavy WILL suffer if he gets hit by a SCR and loose -+ of his total HP in one shot. But point made, armor tanking is the new trend. 9-Well true,but its situational. 10-So are Scramblers! if you dont mind eating damage and getting into Seige mode for 10 seconds 10 times a match (at low level XD) 11-THIS IS TRUE. but the advantage the MD has vs multiple crowds , the SCR has it on 1 v 1 matches. THE SCR also works as a tactical - squad based - sniper rifle 12-SO its 1HKO'in them with charged shots 13-The SCrambler is the Anti heavy weapon of the Millenium, able to drop a heavy fro ma solid 1200 to 200 in less than 2 seconds....lol You are just confusing stuff bro. IMO both are excellent weapons, jsut fulfill different purposes and complement different playstyles. ;)

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 6628	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:47:00 - [21] - Quote You must not be familiar with the satisfaction of killing someone with just one charge shot.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 247	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:53:00 - [22] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: You must not be familiar with the satisfaction of killing someone with just one charge shot. Well I kinda am. I actually tried SCRs a few weeks ago when my CEO suggested that I use SCRs. I had way to much SP for my own good (and still do) so I decided to try them out for a bit. The charge shots are quite funny, and the headshots, they are just beautiful. But with proficiency lvl 5 and a complex dmg mod with me, I can OHKO people already... With splash! I just find MD kills more entertaining than a SCR charge shot kill
Cosgar ParagonX 6226	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:56:00 - [23] - Quote Breach MD is still the best shotgun in the game.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 247	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:10:00 - [24] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Breach MD is still the best shotgun in the game. Rivaled only by the burst HMG
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:06:00 - [25] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. I can aim... ...and I work 120 days out of the year as a member of Dallas Fire Rescue as a firefighter/paramedic, making about $54,000 in annual salary with a hell of a retirement package coming when it's time. That count?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3416	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:09:00 - [26] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. I can aim... ...and I work 120 days out of the year as a member of Dallas Fire Rescue as a firefighter/paramedic, making about $54,000 in annual salary with a hell of a retirement package coming when it's time. That count? You lucky son of a .....
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 481	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:14:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. I can aim... ...and I work 120 days out of the year as a member of Dallas Fire Rescue as a firefighter/paramedic, making about $54,000 in annual salary with a hell of a retirement package coming when it's time. That count? You lucky son of a ..... That is why I can devote so much time to Dust tbh. I work 10 days out of the month, every 3rd day. And on those days that I have my shift? I bring my PS with me to play. A win-win!
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1940	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:16:00 - [28] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: You must not be familiar with the satisfaction of killing someone with just one charge shot. WEll im guessing it feels the same than throwing a Flux and then 2 Shot 5 dudes with a Mass driver XD
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 85	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:17:00 - [29] - Quote Charged headshot or cqc rapid fire Its just fun and that's why I play For fun
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3416	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:18:00 - [30] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: True Adamance wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. I can aim... ...and I work 120 days out of the year as a member of Dallas Fire Rescue as a firefighter/paramedic, making about $54,000 in annual salary with a hell of a retirement package coming when it's time. That count? You lucky son of a ..... That is why I can devote so much time to Dust tbh. I work 10 days out of the month, every 3rd day. And on those days that I have my shift? I bring my PS with me to play. A win-win! Glad you're on our side.

Koan Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 17	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:19:00 - [31] - Quote I feel alot of people invest into the scrambler rifles simply because it comes with a reflex sight and the automatic ones fire like the ar's on cod with a little less recoil. Personally I use a md, when im not using my pistol. Or on scouts. But I am a scout that carries a mass driver....but my pistol is better >.>
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 412	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:28:00 - [32] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: Charged headshot or cqc rapid fire Its just fun and that's why I play For fun Same. But I still won't use a plasma cannon because it irritates me more than letting me have fun.
nathan scrapper-MY Harimau Malaya. 0	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:29:00 - [33] - Quote MD is useless against proto heavy, caldari protos.. it will take you lots of rounds to kill them.. lol good luck with that Unless you get on elevated ground, you are pretty much screwed.
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 208	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:30:00 - [34] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. [*]I think it all just depends on the person
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1259	Posted - 2013.10.21 04:37:00 - [35] - Quote Isn't the MD supposed to be a fun gun for playing when "too drunk to aim"? Thats what I use it for.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 714	Posted - 2013.10.21 07:20:00 - [36] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. It would be a Virtual Skill if it was server side, its not it's our own actual Fine Motor control coupled to lightning fast reaction speed we were born with/trained for, then again coupled with hand / eye coordination. About RL, my appartment has been payed off since i was 27 and i own 2 Nissan GTR's(1 normal, other one a limited Edition) and a normal car. So you see, we are fine both ingame and outside of it.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws 437	Posted - 2013.10.21 07:50:00 - [37] - Quote Meh sorry... Real men use plasma cannon and no side arm... Hairy chested men kill with melee in scout suits... Hairy chested men with beards kill with melee while only having a swarms in a scout suit to make the fit valid.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1192	Posted - 2013.10.21 16:47:00 - [38] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. I tried the scrambler, and it is definitely the real man weapon of all the "good weapons". The mass driver is still my real love next to gunlogis and rails. Can we all agree that the AR is still the easiest weapon to use and requires even less skill than the MD? If you prefer Mass Drivers, your skill isn't up to a level where you can "enjoy" a Scrambler Rifle..
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 260	Posted - 2013.10.21 17:56:00 - [39] - Quote \o/
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1118	Posted - 2013.10.21 18:26:00 - [40] - Quote I actually love both of these weapons :D It's really more situational. I find that the mass driver is much more effective in close quarters maps where I can lob shells around corners and use my height advantage to rain down on the opponent. The ASCR is more for open maps with terrain as the mass driver is much more easily dodged over long distances. Not only that, but slight uphills, downhills, or bumps can make it hard to hit where you want to aim. Overall, if I am defending an area and can hit my opponents from up high, mass driver is absolutely the way to go (I prefer the standard one with flux's and an X-3, freedom is too expensive and the extra splash radius actually makes it harder to use when someone assaults you). If my targets are above me, or if I'm running into players 1 by 1 instead of groups, I use the scrambler. I constantly change my playstyle as I move around the map, so it's always good to be proficient in both weapons.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 260	Posted - 2013.10.21 18:37:00 - [41] - Quote nathan scrapper-MY wrote: MD is useless against proto heavy, caldari protos.. it will take you lots of rounds to kill them.. lol good luck with that Unless you get on elevated ground, you are pretty much screwed. Flux Grenade What was your argument again?
Skihids Bullet Cluster 2295	Posted - 2013.10.21 18:39:00 - [42] - Quote The MD is the most entertaining weapon to use bar none, but it's very situational now. It's a great support weapon to use from the back and up high, but it's crap in most 1v1 situations. I've found myself migrating to the AR and doing much better despite it not being as much fun.
nathan scrapper-MY Harimau Malaya. 0	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:11:00 - [43] - Quote Atiim wrote: nathan scrapper-MY wrote: MD is useless against proto heavy, caldari protos.. it will take you lots of rounds to kill them.. lol good luck with that Unless you get on elevated ground, you are pretty much screwed. Flux Grenade What was your argument again? Relax, I am also running Freedom, proficiency lvl 3 with 1 complex mod and flux nade on my primary acc. It is a very satisfying weapon especially if you scored a kill from 120 feet away.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 856	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:48:00 - [44] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. You pretty much listed all the reasons why people QQ'd about the Mass Driver. but, as others have said, why compare these two completely unrelated, different weapons? In certain conditions, a Mass Driver is better. In others, a Scrambler Rifle is better.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 380	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:58:00 - [45] - Quote So you are comparing a medium range High-damage precision weapon with a short-medium range splash weapon? Why, they are about as far apart in proper usage as two things can get in dust 514.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 176	Posted - 2013.10.22 01:22:00 - [46] - Quote Lets just get this over with, "skill" in games is ambiguous, there's several different things that play into it that video game players learn over the years, coordination, timing, quick decision making, predicting patterns, there's nothing that says 1 thing takes more skill to use than another. I used the scramber back when uprising first came out all the way up to around 1.3, got so good with it I could headshot most anyone and the only people that gave me a problem were heavies, my buddy uses the assault scrambler now instead of the AR and very few people stand a chance, also used the mass driver for a while, had my best game with it and got 4500 WP. I don't find myself getting killed in any significant amount by any one type of gun anymore, not even assault rifles. I don't have anything to yell OP at, at this point I can see that the only thing it has come down to is simple things like who sees who first, who shoots first, range, who can dodge bullets the best, and teamwork. There are a few guns that can be good when you first pick them up cough militia forge gun cough, but any gun can be great with enough time put into it.


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