DUST Search - MDs vs SCRs Why use them?

Rei Shepard wrote:

Atiim wrote:

Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant)

They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button)

They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you

They have higher CPU/PG requirements

The MD has splash damage

3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything

The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs

The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais)

They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor?

If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores)

MDs are user friendly

MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies

It's funny killing scouts with MDs

Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case)

I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought.

I tried the scrambler, and it is definitely the real man weapon of all the "good weapons".
The mass driver is still my real love next to gunlogis and rails.

Can we all agree that the AR is still the easiest weapon to use and requires even less skill than the MD?

If you prefer Mass Drivers, your skill isn't up to a level where you can "enjoy" a Scrambler Rifle..

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Koan Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 17	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:19:00 - [31] - Quote I feel alot of people invest into the scrambler rifles simply because it comes with a reflex sight and the automatic ones fire like the ar's on cod with a little less recoil. Personally I use a md, when im not using my pistol. Or on scouts. But I am a scout that carries a mass driver....but my pistol is better >.>
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 412	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:28:00 - [32] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: Charged headshot or cqc rapid fire Its just fun and that's why I play For fun Same. But I still won't use a plasma cannon because it irritates me more than letting me have fun.
nathan scrapper-MY Harimau Malaya. 0	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:29:00 - [33] - Quote MD is useless against proto heavy, caldari protos.. it will take you lots of rounds to kill them.. lol good luck with that Unless you get on elevated ground, you are pretty much screwed.
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 208	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:30:00 - [34] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. [*]I think it all just depends on the person
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1259	Posted - 2013.10.21 04:37:00 - [35] - Quote Isn't the MD supposed to be a fun gun for playing when "too drunk to aim"? Thats what I use it for.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 714	Posted - 2013.10.21 07:20:00 - [36] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. It would be a Virtual Skill if it was server side, its not it's our own actual Fine Motor control coupled to lightning fast reaction speed we were born with/trained for, then again coupled with hand / eye coordination. About RL, my appartment has been payed off since i was 27 and i own 2 Nissan GTR's(1 normal, other one a limited Edition) and a normal car. So you see, we are fine both ingame and outside of it.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws 437	Posted - 2013.10.21 07:50:00 - [37] - Quote Meh sorry... Real men use plasma cannon and no side arm... Hairy chested men kill with melee in scout suits... Hairy chested men with beards kill with melee while only having a swarms in a scout suit to make the fit valid.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1192	Posted - 2013.10.21 16:47:00 - [38] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. I tried the scrambler, and it is definitely the real man weapon of all the "good weapons". The mass driver is still my real love next to gunlogis and rails. Can we all agree that the AR is still the easiest weapon to use and requires even less skill than the MD? If you prefer Mass Drivers, your skill isn't up to a level where you can "enjoy" a Scrambler Rifle..
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 260	Posted - 2013.10.21 17:56:00 - [39] - Quote \o/
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1118	Posted - 2013.10.21 18:26:00 - [40] - Quote I actually love both of these weapons :D It's really more situational. I find that the mass driver is much more effective in close quarters maps where I can lob shells around corners and use my height advantage to rain down on the opponent. The ASCR is more for open maps with terrain as the mass driver is much more easily dodged over long distances. Not only that, but slight uphills, downhills, or bumps can make it hard to hit where you want to aim. Overall, if I am defending an area and can hit my opponents from up high, mass driver is absolutely the way to go (I prefer the standard one with flux's and an X-3, freedom is too expensive and the extra splash radius actually makes it harder to use when someone assaults you). If my targets are above me, or if I'm running into players 1 by 1 instead of groups, I use the scrambler. I constantly change my playstyle as I move around the map, so it's always good to be proficient in both weapons.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 260	Posted - 2013.10.21 18:37:00 - [41] - Quote nathan scrapper-MY wrote: MD is useless against proto heavy, caldari protos.. it will take you lots of rounds to kill them.. lol good luck with that Unless you get on elevated ground, you are pretty much screwed. Flux Grenade What was your argument again?
Skihids Bullet Cluster 2295	Posted - 2013.10.21 18:39:00 - [42] - Quote The MD is the most entertaining weapon to use bar none, but it's very situational now. It's a great support weapon to use from the back and up high, but it's crap in most 1v1 situations. I've found myself migrating to the AR and doing much better despite it not being as much fun.
nathan scrapper-MY Harimau Malaya. 0	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:11:00 - [43] - Quote Atiim wrote: nathan scrapper-MY wrote: MD is useless against proto heavy, caldari protos.. it will take you lots of rounds to kill them.. lol good luck with that Unless you get on elevated ground, you are pretty much screwed. Flux Grenade What was your argument again? Relax, I am also running Freedom, proficiency lvl 3 with 1 complex mod and flux nade on my primary acc. It is a very satisfying weapon especially if you scored a kill from 120 feet away.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 856	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:48:00 - [44] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. You pretty much listed all the reasons why people QQ'd about the Mass Driver. but, as others have said, why compare these two completely unrelated, different weapons? In certain conditions, a Mass Driver is better. In others, a Scrambler Rifle is better.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 380	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:58:00 - [45] - Quote So you are comparing a medium range High-damage precision weapon with a short-medium range splash weapon? Why, they are about as far apart in proper usage as two things can get in dust 514.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 176	Posted - 2013.10.22 01:22:00 - [46] - Quote Lets just get this over with, "skill" in games is ambiguous, there's several different things that play into it that video game players learn over the years, coordination, timing, quick decision making, predicting patterns, there's nothing that says 1 thing takes more skill to use than another. I used the scramber back when uprising first came out all the way up to around 1.3, got so good with it I could headshot most anyone and the only people that gave me a problem were heavies, my buddy uses the assault scrambler now instead of the AR and very few people stand a chance, also used the mass driver for a while, had my best game with it and got 4500 WP. I don't find myself getting killed in any significant amount by any one type of gun anymore, not even assault rifles. I don't have anything to yell OP at, at this point I can see that the only thing it has come down to is simple things like who sees who first, who shoots first, range, who can dodge bullets the best, and teamwork. There are a few guns that can be good when you first pick them up cough militia forge gun cough, but any gun can be great with enough time put into it.


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