DUST Search - MDs vs SCRs Why use them?

Atiim wrote:

Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant)

1- They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button)
2- They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you
3- They have higher CPU/PG requirements
4- The MD has splash damage
5- 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything
6- The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs
7- The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais)
8- They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor?
9- If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores)
10- MDs are user friendly
11- MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies
12- It's funny killing scouts with MDs
13- Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case)

I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought.

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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 243	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:31:00 - [1] - Quote Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 243	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:32:00 - [2] - Quote [Reserved for future posts]
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A 389	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:34:00 - [3] - Quote I use Scr because I don't like using slave's stones to kill my foe.
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 301	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:44:00 - [4] - Quote Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 90	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:47:00 - [5] - Quote Md: No Aim Assist Scr:Aim Assist
8213 Grade No.2 476	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:48:00 - [6] - Quote I was about to stop reading when you said the SCR Assault Varient... but I decided to press on.... But, my suspicions were confirmed. I'll put it this way. The SCR (non-assault) is the big boy's weapon. The skill players weapon. It WILL out do every other weapon in this game. It is not for mediocre players, and is not a pick up and go weapon. The MD... well us SCR-ers chew their heads off
Cosgar ParagonX 6222	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:51:00 - [7] - Quote Tek Hound wrote: Md: No Aim Assist Scr:Aim Assist I wouldn't use AA with a SCR either. Feels Iike a hand jerking my muzzle away when I'm aiming for the head.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1852	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:54:00 - [8] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Nope. There is in closing the distance in AA-AR 514 though
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1030	Posted - 2013.10.20 19:54:00 - [9] - Quote I reserve my Mass Driver usage for spawns on high ground these days. It's the best way to use it to gain a tactical advantage over AR squads that have an objective camped out.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 512	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:00:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. They are so different, why compare them? Each works well for different reasons and aren't competing.

Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 412	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:01:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. They are used for different things. I can easily hold off an area with a MD with K2 Hives and flux grenades on my Amarr Logistics suit. The Srambler Rifle is my weapon for flanking, and "sniping." 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down It's kinda hard to out DPS them if they have an AR when they are constantly dodging my MD rounds. And splash damage ills slowly unless the enemy is stupid.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 512	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:04:00 - [12] - Quote 8213 wrote: I was about to stop reading when you said the SCR Assault Varient... but I decided to press on.... But, my suspicions were confirmed. I'll put it this way. The SCR (non-assault) is the big boy's weapon. The skill players weapon. It WILL out do every other weapon in this game. It is not for mediocre players, and is not a pick up and go weapon. The MD... well us SCR-ers chew their heads off The Plasma Cannon is the big boys weapon.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 712	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:13:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you They have higher CPU/PG requirements The MD has splash damage 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) MDs are user friendly MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies It's funny killing scouts with MDs Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. If you prefer Mass Drivers, your skill isn't up to a level where you can "enjoy" a Scrambler Rifle..
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 244	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:14:00 - [14] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Nope. There is in closing the distance in COD514 though Fixed
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 475	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:14:00 - [15] - Quote SCR takes finesse in comparison to the MD. It takes no skill to aim at the ground every time.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 475	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:24:00 - [16] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 441	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:31:00 - [17] - Quote This has massive bias all over it. 6 shots from Freedom can barely kill a proto suit, and that's well over 6 seconds, ARs will drop you in 1(or less). Proto Heavy forget it. Useless against elevated targets, I have no Idea why people tend to not mention this fact, it matters. Terrible in condensed CQC, new maps make this clear, it's also not a god CQC weapon. If anyone gets right in your face, they can spray and pray and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it outside of kamikaze. Breach is outclassed by swarms period because Breach is damn near useless against Infantry with a brain. RoF is just not there, you're using a bad shotgun every time. Slowest one reload time in the game, while paired with the necessity of hives make it one of the worst back-to-back battle weapons in the game. MD requires prep, which is another thing people don't ever mention. Against a seasoned opponent with an AR in a proto suit, if he sees you first within 40 meters, you're dead. If you see each other at the same time within 40 meters, you're dead. And who use shields over Amour? People who don't want to be OHK'd by a Core Lotus with a 7.2 meter splash that you can't dodge because of movement penalties. Flux + Nade isn't a good argument, why should I need 2 weapons to kill one man?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 244	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:32:00 - [18] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: SCR takes finesse in comparison to the MD. It takes no skill to aim at the ground every time. If we were talking about CQC, then I might agree with you, but everything is situation. MDs have travel time, allowing the enemies to strafe and jump away from the blast MDs rounds arc so it can be hard to aim if your not in CQC MD users without skill can easily start pressing a magic suicide button I call BS on the "finesse" part, unless you are going for OHKO headshots, but that's what my KLO-5 is for Have you gone up against a vanilla MD? (No proficiency or dmg mods) They use 6 hits to take out a starter fit! Ammo is scarce with a total of 18 rounds per clip. And the ammo skill only gives you one extra round. Forcing you to either run K-2 nanohives, or be every good with aiming. You have to either suck or try really hard to kill yourself with a SCR. MDs the other hand are very easy to commit suicide. Where the "big boys and girls are", PC, You can rack up tons of team kills if you aren't careful. Oh yeah,You can die multipule times if blueberries jump in your way while your firing. (which happens all the time) 4/10 Troll
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1230	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:44:00 - [19] - Quote I prefer the ScR for when I'm hunting enemies of the state. They may be criminals, but they still use my tech.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1927	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:08:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Am I the only one who prefers to use Mass Drivers over Scrambler Rifles? (Including the Assault variant) 1- They are gods in CQC in comparison (unless you use the Freedom, then it's a magic suicide button) 2- They don't have overheat, and the "feedback damage with SCRs immobilize you 3- They have higher CPU/PG requirements 4- The MD has splash damage 5- 3 Rounds from the Freedom can KO almost anything 6- The Breach MD variant can 2HKO LAVs 7- The Freedom MD can me used to take out MLT Tanks (in-case you ran out of Lai Dais) 8- They are superior against armor, and who uses shields over armor? 9- If someone does use shields over armor then you can use a flux grenade, and no grenade destroys armor (except for Cores) 10- MDs are user friendly 11- MDs can be used as a crowd control, area denial weapon. SCRs can only pew pew pew and aren't effective in large swarms of enemies 12- It's funny killing scouts with MDs 13- Oh yeah, it's the anti scout weapon of the century (or millennium in New Eden's case) I may be wrong, and SCRs could be god weapons, but I just wanted to see what other people thought. You are not the only one that uses MD effectivley. The problem is that with aim assist many people have LEFT Md's to use weapons that benefit from AA.now: 1-They are pretty good in CQ, true ; but SCR is King of Med-Long Range Engagements one on one. 2-This is true,but this is on of the SCR penlties. Without them the SCR would be the best weapons. 3-Another of the SCR drawbacks. 4-Yes.But the SCR has Range. 5- 1 Charged shot from the Imperial, OHKO's some ADV suits. 6- ehem...ok. 7-ehem...ok again. the MD is supposed to be some kind of weird AV minmatar weapon. 8-I use shields over armor.Cal logis havea lot of shields and a heavy WILL suffer if he gets hit by a SCR and loose -+ of his total HP in one shot. But point made, armor tanking is the new trend. 9-Well true,but its situational. 10-So are Scramblers! if you dont mind eating damage and getting into Seige mode for 10 seconds 10 times a match (at low level XD) 11-THIS IS TRUE. but the advantage the MD has vs multiple crowds , the SCR has it on 1 v 1 matches. THE SCR also works as a tactical - squad based - sniper rifle 12-SO its 1HKO'in them with charged shots 13-The SCrambler is the Anti heavy weapon of the Millenium, able to drop a heavy fro ma solid 1200 to 200 in less than 2 seconds....lol You are just confusing stuff bro. IMO both are excellent weapons, jsut fulfill different purposes and complement different playstyles. ;)

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 6628	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:47:00 - [21] - Quote You must not be familiar with the satisfaction of killing someone with just one charge shot.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 247	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:53:00 - [22] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: You must not be familiar with the satisfaction of killing someone with just one charge shot. Well I kinda am. I actually tried SCRs a few weeks ago when my CEO suggested that I use SCRs. I had way to much SP for my own good (and still do) so I decided to try them out for a bit. The charge shots are quite funny, and the headshots, they are just beautiful. But with proficiency lvl 5 and a complex dmg mod with me, I can OHKO people already... With splash! I just find MD kills more entertaining than a SCR charge shot kill
Cosgar ParagonX 6226	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:56:00 - [23] - Quote Breach MD is still the best shotgun in the game.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 247	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:10:00 - [24] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Breach MD is still the best shotgun in the game. Rivaled only by the burst HMG
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:06:00 - [25] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. I can aim... ...and I work 120 days out of the year as a member of Dallas Fire Rescue as a firefighter/paramedic, making about $54,000 in annual salary with a hell of a retirement package coming when it's time. That count?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3416	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:09:00 - [26] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. I can aim... ...and I work 120 days out of the year as a member of Dallas Fire Rescue as a firefighter/paramedic, making about $54,000 in annual salary with a hell of a retirement package coming when it's time. That count? You lucky son of a .....
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 481	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:14:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. I can aim... ...and I work 120 days out of the year as a member of Dallas Fire Rescue as a firefighter/paramedic, making about $54,000 in annual salary with a hell of a retirement package coming when it's time. That count? You lucky son of a ..... That is why I can devote so much time to Dust tbh. I work 10 days out of the month, every 3rd day. And on those days that I have my shift? I bring my PS with me to play. A win-win!
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1940	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:16:00 - [28] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: You must not be familiar with the satisfaction of killing someone with just one charge shot. WEll im guessing it feels the same than throwing a Flux and then 2 Shot 5 dudes with a Mass driver XD
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 85	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:17:00 - [29] - Quote Charged headshot or cqc rapid fire Its just fun and that's why I play For fun
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3416	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:18:00 - [30] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: True Adamance wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Coz theres isnt much skill or fun involved in jumping and shooting down Thats just your opinion. Stop treating it like its a fact because its not. Also i dont give a damn about something as silly and worthless as virtual skill. lmao you can aim well on a video game big deal. now doing well in life. That takes skill. I can aim... ...and I work 120 days out of the year as a member of Dallas Fire Rescue as a firefighter/paramedic, making about $54,000 in annual salary with a hell of a retirement package coming when it's time. That count? You lucky son of a ..... That is why I can devote so much time to Dust tbh. I work 10 days out of the month, every 3rd day. And on those days that I have my shift? I bring my PS with me to play. A win-win! Glad you're on our side.



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