DUST Search - REPORT: WRECKAGE OF HETHGÇÖS ESCORT FOUND IN HAKONEN

True Adamance wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

either way, something big is coming.... and everything is pointing in the direction of the jove empire (whats left of it)..

in the near future, I predict that more of these encounters and events will continue... then wel se an incursion from jove space be either the jove themselves or something else that they are hiding in their borders.

beware my clone brothers & sisters... this is not the end... this is just the beginning.

We are constantly seeing encursions from Jove space Mr Echo. The Nation is always launching attacks from wormholes, that Dagger Two has told me lead to that un explored space.

I suppose the Jove are a dead people now, any small number clinging to life are the last remnants of their people either torn apart by their disease or at the hands of Sansha's Nation.

either way like I said... this is just the beginning.... we may see a full invasion sometime in the future.. whether it be by jove, or sansha's puppets..

Sansha's puppets is more likely. We rarely see the Jove any more and with the Nation so close to them.....

Either way the technological advancements have made conflicts with the Nation an absolute nightmare both on the ground and in space.

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XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 364	Posted - 2013.10.17 14:18:00 - [1] - Quote Aivonen GÇô The Caldari Navy has recovered the wreckage of the fugitive fleet believed to have been escorting Tibus Heth in Aivonen early this morning. The wrecks were devoid of bodies despite numerous unused escape pods and signs of a prolonged struggle and firefight. According to the NavyGÇÖs report, it appears the ships were attacked with energy weapons and boarded. What happened after that is unknown, as the ship computers were destroyed by an EM pulse which appears to have been powerful and artificial. Numerous personal effects confirmed to belong to high-ranking members of the Provists have been recovered from the wreckage, including a Caldari Constructions pocket watch reportedly prized by Tibus Heth in the wreck of a Raven Navy Issue. Fresh blood samples recovered from the watch match those of Tibus Heth. Navy officials have not yet officially speculated on the nature of the attack, nor the disposition of Heth. They have claimed the attack was not conducted by the Caldari Navy or any known associates. Caldari State authorities continue to treat Heth as a live fugitive.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 364	Posted - 2013.10.17 14:20:00 - [2] - Quote This is interesting. I know its a bit of an obvious question, but what the heck happened I wonder?
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 331	Posted - 2013.10.17 16:08:00 - [3] - Quote In naval terminology, "energy weapons" means lasers. That would typically mean Blood Raiders, Sansha's Nation, Amarr Empire, or certain mercenary groups that use customized Caldari ships. Sansha's Nation does use EMP weapons as a matter of routine. For Tibus Heth to have joined Sansha Kuvakei's utopian experiment would be an ironic end to the story, but it's not a fate I'd wish even on him.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1582	Posted - 2013.10.17 16:18:00 - [4] - Quote Sounds like the empress wants her money back. Edit: reread this has blood raiders all over it but I got the nagging feeling 514 has somthing to do it
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3271	Posted - 2013.10.17 18:59:00 - [5] - Quote If we are talking about Aivonen, it is far from blood raiders typical hunting grounds. Asumming the capabilities of the remaining two groups it is/ could be entirely possible the Sansha's Nation could strike in the heart of Blackrise, nor would an Amarr ship looks all that out of place flying in Caldari space.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 99	Posted - 2013.10.17 20:26:00 - [6] - Quote Aivonen is currently experiencing an incursion by Sansha forces. If the Provist fleet tried to hide there, it is pretty clear what happened.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3278	Posted - 2013.10.17 20:48:00 - [7] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: Aivonen is currently experiencing an incursion by Sansha forces. If the Provist fleet tried to hide there, it is pretty clear what happened. Then we can only assume that either Heth is dead, or captured by the worst scum this universe has ever known.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3978	Posted - 2013.10.17 20:55:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: Aivonen is currently experiencing an incursion by Sansha forces. If the Provist fleet tried to hide there, it is pretty clear what happened. Then we can only assume that either Heth is dead, or captured by the worst scum this universe has ever known. I don't envy him. I wouldn't wish the Sansha on anyone.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 99	Posted - 2013.10.17 20:59:00 - [9] - Quote I'm in contact with FDU capsuleers right now confirming all of this. The fact no bodies were found is a trademark of Sansha attacks. As is the damage from laser weaponry and the destruction of the onboard computer systems so that communications would not be sent. Scubbing the interior of the ship, especially ventilation systems, for nanite debris would confirm the theory. Sansha often use nanites in their attacks, programmed to take control of a persons somatic (motor) nervous functions. People in this state can't control their own movement, and just walk right onto Sansha vessels. Utterly terrifying, if you ask me.
Galm Fae Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 118	Posted - 2013.10.17 21:13:00 - [10] - Quote Oh no. Oh no no no no no no no. This is bad. Really, very, very bad. Don't you all see what is going on here? Sansha is all over this no doubt, but even if the Provist fleet was captured do you really think he will keep a guy like Tibus as a cog in the Nation? If anything, Heth be forced into the upper hierarchy of the Nation's hivemind. If Tibus survived the attack, he could be a force multiplier for the Nation. A man with that much intelligence on Caldari battle tactics and security protocals, and now he is part of the greatest threat in the universe. We should be preparing for war right now!

Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 99	Posted - 2013.10.17 21:25:00 - [11] - Quote You're right Galm. The information Heth has in his head could potentially give the Sansha a serious advantage against Caldari forces.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3281	Posted - 2013.10.17 21:29:00 - [12] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: You're right Galm. The information Heth has in his head could potentially give the Sansha a serious advantage against Caldari forces. Then you expect him to be a True Citizen of the Nation? That could be disastrous for the State, though what I am more concerned about is how no one seems to know where Sansha is basing himself, and how he can make use of these wormholes. Assuming Heth was targeted by Sansha two possibilities now present themselves. Sansha either knew or had access to information as to Heth's location which no other empire had access to, how did he come by that? And will he target other influential persons aligned with the greater empires?
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 99	Posted - 2013.10.17 21:44:00 - [13] - Quote Actually, this event could be entirely serendipitous for the Sansha, rather than a targetted abduction. Heth was already IN the region, running from State forces, when the incursion occurred (and is still happening). Stumbling upon Heth could have been an accident, but Sansha forces are known to thoroughly spread themselves out within the systems they attack. Heth has no way out of the system, and the Sansha find and board the ship, abducting everyone. Standard procedure for the Sansha, but finding Heth on board was a treat. If this is indeed what happened, he'll be implanted like all other Sansha slaves, unless Kuvakei has another plan for him. Also, we actually DO know where Sansha is, thanks to the effort of the capsuleers of the Synenose Accord, many of whom are close contacts and friends. Probes sent through the artificially created wormholes revealed Sansha bases in Jovian space, which we unfortunately have no way of getting to. The technology is likely Jovian as well, which implies that the Jovians are no longer strong enough to fight off Sansha, or more likely, they are all dead from their disease.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3284	Posted - 2013.10.17 21:55:00 - [14] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: Actually, this event could be entirely serendipitous for the Sansha, rather than a targetted abduction. Heth was already IN the region, running from State forces, when the incursion occurred (and is still happening). Stumbling upon Heth could have been an accident, but Sansha forces are known to thoroughly spread themselves out within the systems they attack. Heth has no way out of the system, and the Sansha find and board the ship, abducting everyone. Standard procedure for the Sansha, but finding Heth on board was a treat. If this is indeed what happened, he'll be implanted like all other Sansha slaves, unless Kuvakei has another plan for him. Also, we actually DO know where Sansha is, thanks to the effort of the capsuleers of the Synenose Accord, many of whom are close contacts and friends. Probes sent through the artificially created wormholes revealed Sansha bases in Jovian space, which we unfortunately have no way of getting to. The technology is likely Jovian as well, which implies that the Jovians are no longer strong enough to fight off Sansha, or more likely, they are all dead from their disease. This is true, though I find it rather unlikely he simply was caught through sheer bad luck, if we know anything about either two of these men, Sansha and Heth, they are both very competent, and prepared men. Discussing this brings up too many possibilities about the nature of the incursions....
Galm Fae Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 118	Posted - 2013.10.17 22:38:00 - [15] - Quote I side with Dagger-Two. If I had my way, then I would see every one of our ships sent onward into Jove space after them. We need to face the facts, the Jove aren't coming to save us anymore.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 101	Posted - 2013.10.17 22:43:00 - [16] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: I side with Dagger-Two. If I had my way, then I would see every one of our ships sent onward into Jove space after them. We need to face the facts, the Jove aren't coming to save us anymore. Your passion on the matter is admirable...but in case you forgot, we can't get to Jove space. The Jovians shut down their border stargates some time ago. Sansha has the advantage here with their wormhole technology. If we could ever replicate it, THEN we could mount an assault. For now, we're stuck dealing with incursions as they arise.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3284	Posted - 2013.10.17 22:43:00 - [17] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: I side with Dagger-Two. If I had my way, then I would see every one of our ships sent onward into Jove space after them. We need to face the facts, the Jove aren't coming to save us anymore. But we cannot access Jovian Space....
Galm Fae Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 118	Posted - 2013.10.17 22:52:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Galm Fae wrote: I side with Dagger-Two. If I had my way, then I would see every one of our ships sent onward into Jove space after them. We need to face the facts, the Jove aren't coming to save us anymore. But we cannot access Jovian Space.... This is why we need to acquire True Power craft. Maybe we can find a way to reverse engineer the warp technology, or at least find some way of accessing Heaven from the outside. If it were at all possible to lure the Nation traps, we could knock them out with well organize wolf packs and quickly salvage as much as we can as quickly as possible.
Void Echo Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1847	Posted - 2013.10.17 23:05:00 - [19] - Quote the jove got to them.... that's the best explanation, how else are you to explain no bodies and no missing escape pods... or sanshas nation is looking for a political figure to join the collective in hopes of bringing false peace.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3290	Posted - 2013.10.17 23:09:00 - [20] - Quote Void Echo wrote: the jove got to them.... that's the best explanation, how else are you to explain no bodies and no missing escape pods... or sanshas nation is looking for a political figure to join the collective in hopes of bringing false peace. I do not see that happening any time soon, especially not with the State. Sansha hates them with a passion.

Void Echo Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1848	Posted - 2013.10.17 23:10:00 - [21] - Quote either way, something big is coming.... and everything is pointing in the direction of the jove empire (whats left of it).. in the near future, I predict that more of these encounters and events will continue... then wel se an incursion from jove space be either the jove themselves or something else that they are hiding in their borders. beware my clone brothers & sisters... this is not the end... this is just the beginning.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3290	Posted - 2013.10.17 23:16:00 - [22] - Quote Void Echo wrote: either way, something big is coming.... and everything is pointing in the direction of the jove empire (whats left of it).. in the near future, I predict that more of these encounters and events will continue... then wel se an incursion from jove space be either the jove themselves or something else that they are hiding in their borders. beware my clone brothers & sisters... this is not the end... this is just the beginning. We are constantly seeing encursions from Jove space Mr Echo. The Nation is always launching attacks from wormholes, that Dagger Two has told me lead to that un explored space. I suppose the Jove are a dead people now, any small number clinging to life are the last remnants of their people either torn apart by their disease or at the hands of Sansha's Nation.
Void Echo Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1848	Posted - 2013.10.17 23:17:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: either way, something big is coming.... and everything is pointing in the direction of the jove empire (whats left of it).. in the near future, I predict that more of these encounters and events will continue... then wel se an incursion from jove space be either the jove themselves or something else that they are hiding in their borders. beware my clone brothers & sisters... this is not the end... this is just the beginning. We are constantly seeing encursions from Jove space Mr Echo. The Nation is always launching attacks from wormholes, that Dagger Two has told me lead to that un explored space. I suppose the Jove are a dead people now, any small number clinging to life are the last remnants of their people either torn apart by their disease or at the hands of Sansha's Nation. either way like I said... this is just the beginning.... we may see a full invasion sometime in the future
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3290	Posted - 2013.10.17 23:26:00 - [24] - Quote Void Echo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: either way, something big is coming.... and everything is pointing in the direction of the jove empire (whats left of it).. in the near future, I predict that more of these encounters and events will continue... then wel se an incursion from jove space be either the jove themselves or something else that they are hiding in their borders. beware my clone brothers & sisters... this is not the end... this is just the beginning. We are constantly seeing encursions from Jove space Mr Echo. The Nation is always launching attacks from wormholes, that Dagger Two has told me lead to that un explored space. I suppose the Jove are a dead people now, any small number clinging to life are the last remnants of their people either torn apart by their disease or at the hands of Sansha's Nation. either way like I said... this is just the beginning.... we may see a full invasion sometime in the future.. whether it be by jove, or sansha's puppets.. Sansha's puppets is more likely. We rarely see the Jove any more and with the Nation so close to them..... Either way the technological advancements have made conflicts with the Nation an absolute nightmare both on the ground and in space.
Void Echo Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1855	Posted - 2013.10.17 23:52:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: either way, something big is coming.... and everything is pointing in the direction of the jove empire (whats left of it).. in the near future, I predict that more of these encounters and events will continue... then wel se an incursion from jove space be either the jove themselves or something else that they are hiding in their borders. beware my clone brothers & sisters... this is not the end... this is just the beginning. We are constantly seeing encursions from Jove space Mr Echo. The Nation is always launching attacks from wormholes, that Dagger Two has told me lead to that un explored space. I suppose the Jove are a dead people now, any small number clinging to life are the last remnants of their people either torn apart by their disease or at the hands of Sansha's Nation. either way like I said... this is just the beginning.... we may see a full invasion sometime in the future.. whether it be by jove, or sansha's puppets.. Sansha's puppets is more likely. We rarely see the Jove any more and with the Nation so close to them..... Either way the technological advancements have made conflicts with the Nation an absolute nightmare both on the ground and in space. its always going to be total war... especially with sanhsa. last time I checked, the empires were not that far reached towards the jove, the people that are closets to jove space are all player alliances, no empire for constellations across.
steadyhand amarr MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1591	Posted - 2013.10.18 10:38:00 - [26] - Quote While a time of great conflict could be coming I know at least the empires Templars will stand ready to defend all people of new eden
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2261	Posted - 2013.10.18 21:32:00 - [27] - Quote This reeks of Sansha's Nation. EMP? Check. Missing people, possibly abducted? Check. The Nation might be trying to flex their guns by capturing a high value target. Probably going to be fitted with an Implant. Depending on whether he is willing or not, he might become a True Slave or a Citizen. All theoretical of course.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 331	Posted - 2013.10.18 21:45:00 - [28] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: This reeks of Sansha's Nation. EMP? Check. Missing people, possibly abducted? Check. The Nation might be trying to flex their guns by capturing a high value target. Probably going to be fitted with an Implant. Depending on whether he is willing or not, he might become a True Slave or a Citizen. All theoretical of course. Solidly agreed. Also, apparently a Nation incursion was active in the area at the time. (I haven't confirmed this; I picked it up off the capsuleer IGS.)
steadyhand amarr MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1601	Posted - 2013.10.18 22:19:00 - [29] - Quote he cant have implants, due to a genetic defect it may be his saving grace
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 279	Posted - 2013.10.19 01:29:00 - [30] - Quote Could that bastard Heth finally be dead?

SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 279	Posted - 2013.10.19 01:30:00 - [31] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: he cant have implants, due to a genetic defect it may be his saving grace He can have implants he cant clone.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2262	Posted - 2013.10.19 01:37:00 - [32] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: he cant have implants, due to a genetic defect it may be his saving grace He can't get cloning implants, he can still be mind controlled through them.
Void Echo Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1870	Posted - 2013.10.19 03:02:00 - [33] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: he cant have implants, due to a genetic defect it may be his saving grace He can't get cloning implants, he can still be mind controlled through them. making him effectively sansha's greatest tool to get inside the caldari state or gallente federation without much conflict and bring any empire down from the inside. you guys should have killed him when you had the chance.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 670	Posted - 2013.10.19 03:48:00 - [34] - Quote Void Echo wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: he cant have implants, due to a genetic defect it may be his saving grace He can't get cloning implants, he can still be mind controlled through them. making him effectively sansha's greatest tool to get inside the caldari state or gallente federation without much conflict and bring any empire down from the inside. you guys should have killed him when you had the chance. Uh, what? Isn't he like wanted dead or alive by everyone?
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 284	Posted - 2013.10.19 09:21:00 - [35] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Void Echo wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: he cant have implants, due to a genetic defect it may be his saving grace He can't get cloning implants, he can still be mind controlled through them. making him effectively sansha's greatest tool to get inside the caldari state or gallente federation without much conflict and bring any empire down from the inside. you guys should have killed him when you had the chance. Uh, what? Isn't he like wanted dead or alive by everyone? Tibus Hek is the current leader of the Caldari state. So yes and no, everybody hates him but nobody can make a move against him.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 518	Posted - 2013.10.19 09:29:00 - [36] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Tibus Heth is the current leader of the Caldari state. So yes and no, everybody hates him but nobody can make a move against him. You can't have more dated information than that. Tibus Heth has been declared a terrorist by the State for months and the entire State Executor position has been dissolved by the CEP. The only group still loyal to the state are the Templis Dragonaurs, which has also been declared a terrorist organization. Check your information better before you start making such dated claims. And what is this talk about Heth being made a Sansha slave? The likeliness of that ever happening are astronomically small, he would die long before he would let himself be captured.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1223	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:40:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: Aivonen is currently experiencing an incursion by Sansha forces. If the Provist fleet tried to hide there, it is pretty clear what happened. Then we can only assume that either Heth is dead, or captured by the worst scum this universe has ever known. That's great. ***** needed to get tortured.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 332	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:47:00 - [38] - Quote Oh, if the Nation has him he's not being tortured by any conventional means. He's just being edited and revised-- saved from himself by the miracle of cybernetic mind control. About worries that Heth's capture will result in especially dark days for the State, there's some cause for concern, but there has been for a while. With any luck, any intel he could offer is long-since out of date. (As for threatening the Federation, I have no idea how this would work; if Heth had possessed critical security knowledge about the Federation during his time as Executor, and especially immediately after Caldari Prime and Admiral Yanala's forced suicide, does anyone doubt he'd have used it?)


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