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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:59:00 -
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If we are talking about Aivonen, it is far from blood raiders typical hunting grounds.
Asumming the capabilities of the remaining two groups it is/ could be entirely possible the Sansha's Nation could strike in the heart of Blackrise, nor would an Amarr ship looks all that out of place flying in Caldari space. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:48:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Aivonen is currently experiencing an incursion by Sansha forces.
If the Provist fleet tried to hide there, it is pretty clear what happened.
Then we can only assume that either Heth is dead, or captured by the worst scum this universe has ever known. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:29:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:You're right Galm. The information Heth has in his head could potentially give the Sansha a serious advantage against Caldari forces.
Then you expect him to be a True Citizen of the Nation? That could be disastrous for the State, though what I am more concerned about is how no one seems to know where Sansha is basing himself, and how he can make use of these wormholes.
Assuming Heth was targeted by Sansha two possibilities now present themselves. Sansha either knew or had access to information as to Heth's location which no other empire had access to, how did he come by that? And will he target other influential persons aligned with the greater empires? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:55:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Actually, this event could be entirely serendipitous for the Sansha, rather than a targetted abduction.
Heth was already IN the region, running from State forces, when the incursion occurred (and is still happening). Stumbling upon Heth could have been an accident, but Sansha forces are known to thoroughly spread themselves out within the systems they attack. Heth has no way out of the system, and the Sansha find and board the ship, abducting everyone. Standard procedure for the Sansha, but finding Heth on board was a treat.
If this is indeed what happened, he'll be implanted like all other Sansha slaves, unless Kuvakei has another plan for him.
Also, we actually DO know where Sansha is, thanks to the effort of the capsuleers of the Synenose Accord, many of whom are close contacts and friends. Probes sent through the artificially created wormholes revealed Sansha bases in Jovian space, which we unfortunately have no way of getting to. The technology is likely Jovian as well, which implies that the Jovians are no longer strong enough to fight off Sansha, or more likely, they are all dead from their disease.
This is true, though I find it rather unlikely he simply was caught through sheer bad luck, if we know anything about either two of these men, Sansha and Heth, they are both very competent, and prepared men.
Discussing this brings up too many possibilities about the nature of the incursions.... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3284
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:43:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:I side with Dagger-Two. If I had my way, then I would see every one of our ships sent onward into Jove space after them. We need to face the facts, the Jove aren't coming to save us anymore.
But we cannot access Jovian Space.... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:09:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:the jove got to them.... that's the best explanation, how else are you to explain no bodies and no missing escape pods... or sanshas nation is looking for a political figure to join the collective in hopes of bringing false peace.
I do not see that happening any time soon, especially not with the State. Sansha hates them with a passion. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:16:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:either way, something big is coming.... and everything is pointing in the direction of the jove empire (whats left of it)..
in the near future, I predict that more of these encounters and events will continue... then wel se an incursion from jove space be either the jove themselves or something else that they are hiding in their borders.
beware my clone brothers & sisters... this is not the end... this is just the beginning.
We are constantly seeing encursions from Jove space Mr Echo. The Nation is always launching attacks from wormholes, that Dagger Two has told me lead to that un explored space.
I suppose the Jove are a dead people now, any small number clinging to life are the last remnants of their people either torn apart by their disease or at the hands of Sansha's Nation. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:26:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:either way, something big is coming.... and everything is pointing in the direction of the jove empire (whats left of it)..
in the near future, I predict that more of these encounters and events will continue... then wel se an incursion from jove space be either the jove themselves or something else that they are hiding in their borders.
beware my clone brothers & sisters... this is not the end... this is just the beginning. We are constantly seeing encursions from Jove space Mr Echo. The Nation is always launching attacks from wormholes, that Dagger Two has told me lead to that un explored space. I suppose the Jove are a dead people now, any small number clinging to life are the last remnants of their people either torn apart by their disease or at the hands of Sansha's Nation. either way like I said... this is just the beginning.... we may see a full invasion sometime in the future.. whether it be by jove, or sansha's puppets..
Sansha's puppets is more likely. We rarely see the Jove any more and with the Nation so close to them.....
Either way the technological advancements have made conflicts with the Nation an absolute nightmare both on the ground and in space. |
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