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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
755
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:08:00 -
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Hello everybody!
Some of you may already know me, some others may never heard of me, so let's do presentation first. I'm Maphia Clan Corporation diplomat and PR, and former CEO. I'm typing here, just because we want to let you know that we're being involved in Planetary Conquest again, this time we're not going (temporarily) to join any alliance or coalition. We did a lot of fresh new stuff in our corporation.
- We split the corporation into two: Maphia Clan Corporation is now the non-active players corporation and is our Academy. Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn is now our active top players corporation
-We made polls in order to "pass" the power periodically. The new "legal" system have been designed taking inspiration from the "Ius Comune"
-Maphia Clan Corporation won't participate in any Planetary Conquest Battle as a Corporation.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will attack several districts. We will claim our Prime first.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will ring for anybody who can actually pay.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn won't ring against the following Corporations: - Grupo de Asalto Chacal - United Pwnage Service - What the French - What the French Academy - Academy Inferno - Seraphim Initiative.. - Seraphim Auxiliaries
-Please note that Maphia Clan Corporation members, led by a Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn player, may ring for any corporation, for educational purposes only.
-We may even ring for free if you show us you got a rainbow inside of you, otherwise the fee may change from player to player. You can hire an entire squad, with a Huge discount.
-We won't play against each others. If this is the case we'll chose the best offerer and ring for him, giving notice to both corporations within a reasonable amount of time ( 5 hours before battle )
If you want to hire any of us, or an entire squad, or multiple members feel free to join our public channel =Maphia Clan= or contact me via private mail. Thanks for your attention, Maphia Clan Diplomat and PR. |
pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
41
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:41:00 -
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Also, We're all italians so if you're looking for EU mercenaries you can contact us.... "We're gonna make you an offer you can't refuse" |
Roner General
Ancient Exiles
77
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:44:00 -
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Maphia Clan vs AE mmmm yes yes |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3960
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:46:00 -
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Seems like this should be in the war room tbh. Hopefully this restructuring works out well for you folk. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
763
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:56:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Seems like this should be in the war room tbh.
I hope not, It's just a public announcement for people who are interested. |
ReGnYuM
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1119
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:11:00 -
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OP I hope you understand that Actions have Consequences. A prime is no easy feat earned or kept. STB is an prime example, no pun intended
The LAW will be keeping a close eye on you. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
129
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:56:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Hello everybody!
Some of you may already know me, some others may never heard of me, so let's do presentation first. I'm Maphia Clan Corporation diplomat and PR, and former CEO. I'm typing here, just because we want to let you know that we're being involved in Planetary Conquest again, this time we're not going (temporarily) to join any alliance or coalition. We did a lot of fresh new stuff in our corporation.
- We split the corporation into two: Maphia Clan Corporation is now the non-active players corporation and is our Academy. Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn is now our active top players corporation
-We made polls in order to "pass" the power periodically. The new "legal" system have been designed taking inspiration from the "Ius Comune"
-Maphia Clan Corporation won't participate in any Planetary Conquest Battle as a Corporation.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will attack several districts. We will claim our Prime first.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will ring for anybody who can actually pay.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn won't ring against the following Corporations: - Grupo de Asalto Chacal - United Pwnage Service - What the French - What the French Academy - Academy Inferno - Seraphim Initiative.. - Seraphim Auxiliaries
-Please note that Maphia Clan Corporation members, led by a Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn player, may ring for any corporation, for educational purposes only.
-We may even ring for free if you show us you got a rainbow inside of you, otherwise the fee may change from player to player. You can hire an entire squad, with a Huge discount.
-We won't play against each others. If this is the case we'll chose the best offerer and ring for him, giving notice to both corporations within a reasonable amount of time ( 5 hours before battle )
If you want to hire any of us, or an entire squad, or multiple members feel free to join our public channel =Maphia Clan= or contact me via private mail. Thanks for your attention, Maphia Clan Diplomat and PR.
So does this mean you and all the corps you listed will stop going into pub games like ambush etc in full proto gear calling out 3 tanks in multi squads and pubstomping new players then ???
It's funny because whilst all the good corps were doing FW you guys were still pubstomping in proto gear in the pub games ...
Scrub alliance .. alliance is full of scrubs xD |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4094
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:59:00 -
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Says they're not in an alliance but won't attack CRONOS or "former" CRONOS corps... lol
Good one man |
Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
269
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:02:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote: So does this mean you and all the corps you listed will stop going into pub games like ambush etc in full proto gear calling out 3 tanks in multi squads and pubstomping new players then ???
It's funny because whilst all the good corps were doing FW you guys were still pubstomping in proto gear in the pub games ...
Scrub alliance .. alliance is full of scrubs xD
??? We fight PvE only and also mining |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1827
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:03:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Hello everybody!
Some of you may already know me, some others may never heard of me, so let's do presentation first. I'm Maphia Clan Corporation diplomat and PR, and former CEO. I'm typing here, just because we want to let you know that we're being involved in Planetary Conquest again, this time we're not going (temporarily) to join any alliance or coalition. We did a lot of fresh new stuff in our corporation.
- We split the corporation into two: Maphia Clan Corporation is now the non-active players corporation and is our Academy. Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn is now our active top players corporation
-We made polls in order to "pass" the power periodically. The new "legal" system have been designed taking inspiration from the "Ius Comune"
-Maphia Clan Corporation won't participate in any Planetary Conquest Battle as a Corporation.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will attack several districts. We will claim our Prime first.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will ring for anybody who can actually pay.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn won't ring against the following Corporations: - Grupo de Asalto Chacal - United Pwnage Service - What the French - What the French Academy - Academy Inferno - Seraphim Initiative.. - Seraphim Auxiliaries
-Please note that Maphia Clan Corporation members, led by a Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn player, may ring for any corporation, for educational purposes only.
-We may even ring for free if you show us you got a rainbow inside of you, otherwise the fee may change from player to player. You can hire an entire squad, with a Huge discount.
-We won't play against each others. If this is the case we'll chose the best offerer and ring for him, giving notice to both corporations within a reasonable amount of time ( 5 hours before battle )
If you want to hire any of us, or an entire squad, or multiple members feel free to join our public channel =Maphia Clan= or contact me via private mail. Thanks for your attention, Maphia Clan Diplomat and PR. So does this mean you and all the corps you listed will stop going into pub games like ambush etc in full proto gear calling out 3 tanks in multi squads and pubstomping new players then ??? It's funny because whilst all the good corps were doing FW you guys were still pubstomping in proto gear in the pub games ... Scrub alliance .. alliance is full of scrubs xD
U mad bro? |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1827
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:05:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Says they're not in an alliance but won't attack CRONOS or "former" CRONOS corps... lol Good one man
An alliance involves coordinated tactics. What's described here is little more than one half of a mutual nonaggression pact. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1160
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:14:00 -
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If you guys attack D-Uni I'll send uncle Lorenzo to you and fix ya up real nice :p |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4094
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:21:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Says they're not in an alliance but won't attack CRONOS or "former" CRONOS corps... lol Good one man An alliance involves coordinated tactics. What's described here is little more than one half of a mutual nonaggression pact.
It's alliance still. Just because they're not coordinating with each other has no effect on this lol
Just because they don't have an alliance below their name doesn't mean squat either. Maphia Clan is in CRONOS, and not attacking their allies only cements this.
If there were other corps on that list that were never part of CRONOS i would agree it's a none aggression deal, but lol. All the corps there belongs / belonged to CRONOS... aka, the EU Donut.
Only corp not there is Betamax... simply because they no longer exist... at least AFAIC |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1827
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:30:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Says they're not in an alliance but won't attack CRONOS or "former" CRONOS corps... lol Good one man An alliance involves coordinated tactics. What's described here is little more than one half of a mutual nonaggression pact. It's alliance still. Just because they're not coordinating with each other has no effect on this lol Just because they don't have an alliance below their name doesn't mean squat either. Maphia Clan is in CRONOS, and not attacking their allies only cements this. If there were other corps on that list that were never part of CRONOS i would agree it's a none aggression deal, but lol. All the corps there belongs / belonged to CRONOS... aka, the EU Donut. Only corp not there is Betamax... simply because they no longer exist... at least AFAIC
You're just broadening the meaning of the term "alliance" until it fits the what you want to say about them. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4096
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:32:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Says they're not in an alliance but won't attack CRONOS or "former" CRONOS corps... lol Good one man An alliance involves coordinated tactics. What's described here is little more than one half of a mutual nonaggression pact. It's alliance still. Just because they're not coordinating with each other has no effect on this lol Just because they don't have an alliance below their name doesn't mean squat either. Maphia Clan is in CRONOS, and not attacking their allies only cements this. If there were other corps on that list that were never part of CRONOS i would agree it's a none aggression deal, but lol. All the corps there belongs / belonged to CRONOS... aka, the EU Donut. Only corp not there is Betamax... simply because they no longer exist... at least AFAIC You're just broadening the meaning of the term "alliance" until it fits the what you want to say about them.
meh. Doesn't matter what you or me term it as. Fact is they're not attacking corps they were allied with before, and are still saying "they not in alliance" lol... this is a joke.
"Hey guys, we'll ring for people except against the EU corps!" which happens to be corps in CRONOS
How cute |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
130
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:32:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Hello everybody!
Some of you may already know me, some others may never heard of me, so let's do presentation first. I'm Maphia Clan Corporation diplomat and PR, and former CEO. I'm typing here, just because we want to let you know that we're being involved in Planetary Conquest again, this time we're not going (temporarily) to join any alliance or coalition. We did a lot of fresh new stuff in our corporation.
- We split the corporation into two: Maphia Clan Corporation is now the non-active players corporation and is our Academy. Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn is now our active top players corporation
-We made polls in order to "pass" the power periodically. The new "legal" system have been designed taking inspiration from the "Ius Comune"
-Maphia Clan Corporation won't participate in any Planetary Conquest Battle as a Corporation.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will attack several districts. We will claim our Prime first.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will ring for anybody who can actually pay.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn won't ring against the following Corporations: - Grupo de Asalto Chacal - United Pwnage Service - What the French - What the French Academy - Academy Inferno - Seraphim Initiative.. - Seraphim Auxiliaries
-Please note that Maphia Clan Corporation members, led by a Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn player, may ring for any corporation, for educational purposes only.
-We may even ring for free if you show us you got a rainbow inside of you, otherwise the fee may change from player to player. You can hire an entire squad, with a Huge discount.
-We won't play against each others. If this is the case we'll chose the best offerer and ring for him, giving notice to both corporations within a reasonable amount of time ( 5 hours before battle )
If you want to hire any of us, or an entire squad, or multiple members feel free to join our public channel =Maphia Clan= or contact me via private mail. Thanks for your attention, Maphia Clan Diplomat and PR. So does this mean you and all the corps you listed will stop going into pub games like ambush etc in full proto gear calling out 3 tanks in multi squads and pubstomping new players then ??? It's funny because whilst all the good corps were doing FW you guys were still pubstomping in proto gear in the pub games ... Scrub alliance .. alliance is full of scrubs xD U mad bro?
Nope, I just asked a question and referred to them as scrubs .. but nice troll attempt
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:16:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Says they're not in an alliance but won't attack CRONOS or "former" CRONOS corps... lol Good one man An alliance involves coordinated tactics. What's described here is little more than one half of a mutual nonaggression pact. It's alliance still. Just because they're not coordinating with each other has no effect on this lol Just because they don't have an alliance below their name doesn't mean squat either. Maphia Clan is in CRONOS, and not attacking their allies only cements this. If there were other corps on that list that were never part of CRONOS i would agree it's a none aggression deal, but lol. All the corps there belongs / belonged to CRONOS... aka, the EU Donut. Only corp not there is Betamax... simply because they no longer exist... at least AFAIC You're just broadening the meaning of the term "alliance" until it fits the what you want to say about them. meh. Doesn't matter what you or me term it as. Fact is they're not attacking corps they were allied with before, and are still saying "they not in alliance" lol... this is a joke. "Hey guys, we'll ring for people except against the EU corps!" which happens to be corps in CRONOS How cute
If you're calling it an alliance, then of course it matters what you mean by the word. You're trying to have it both ways here. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:18:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Hello everybody!
Some of you may already know me, some others may never heard of me, so let's do presentation first. I'm Maphia Clan Corporation diplomat and PR, and former CEO. I'm typing here, just because we want to let you know that we're being involved in Planetary Conquest again, this time we're not going (temporarily) to join any alliance or coalition. We did a lot of fresh new stuff in our corporation.
- We split the corporation into two: Maphia Clan Corporation is now the non-active players corporation and is our Academy. Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn is now our active top players corporation
-We made polls in order to "pass" the power periodically. The new "legal" system have been designed taking inspiration from the "Ius Comune"
-Maphia Clan Corporation won't participate in any Planetary Conquest Battle as a Corporation.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will attack several districts. We will claim our Prime first.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will ring for anybody who can actually pay.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn won't ring against the following Corporations: - Grupo de Asalto Chacal - United Pwnage Service - What the French - What the French Academy - Academy Inferno - Seraphim Initiative.. - Seraphim Auxiliaries
-Please note that Maphia Clan Corporation members, led by a Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn player, may ring for any corporation, for educational purposes only.
-We may even ring for free if you show us you got a rainbow inside of you, otherwise the fee may change from player to player. You can hire an entire squad, with a Huge discount.
-We won't play against each others. If this is the case we'll chose the best offerer and ring for him, giving notice to both corporations within a reasonable amount of time ( 5 hours before battle )
If you want to hire any of us, or an entire squad, or multiple members feel free to join our public channel =Maphia Clan= or contact me via private mail. Thanks for your attention, Maphia Clan Diplomat and PR. So does this mean you and all the corps you listed will stop going into pub games like ambush etc in full proto gear calling out 3 tanks in multi squads and pubstomping new players then ??? It's funny because whilst all the good corps were doing FW you guys were still pubstomping in proto gear in the pub games ... Scrub alliance .. alliance is full of scrubs xD U mad bro? Nope, I just asked a question and referred to them as scrubs .. but nice troll attempt
*said without a hint of irony* |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4100
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:21:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:
If you're calling it an alliance, then of course it matters what you mean by the word. You're trying to have it both ways here.
I don't see how a definition of a word matters.
Behind closed doors they're an alliance. In public they're acting as though they're not in one.
My opinion of what it is, is different to yours. So your definition by default is also different. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:25:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:
If you're calling it an alliance, then of course it matters what you mean by the word. You're trying to have it both ways here.
I don't see how a definition of a word matters. Behind closed doors they're an alliance. In public they're acting as though they're not in one. My opinion of what it is, is different to yours. So your definition by default is also different.
You don't see how the definition of a word matters? Are you trolling me? Wait, don't tell me. The answer will be meaningless. |
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2065
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:27:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:
If you're calling it an alliance, then of course it matters what you mean by the word. You're trying to have it both ways here.
I don't see how a definition of a word matters. Behind closed doors they're an alliance. In public they're acting as though they're not in one. My opinion of what it is, is different to yours. So your definition by default is also different. You don't see how the definition of a word matters? Are you trolling me? Wait, don't tell me. The answer will be meaningless.
Alliance (capital "a") - official association in New Eden alliance (lower case "a") - loose confederation with no official relationship
Same thing happens here:
Earth (capital "e") - the planet earth (lower case "e") - dirt |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4101
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:32:00 -
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So people need an "official" name below their corp name to be considered in an alliance? If so lol @ your definition of being in an alliance.
EoN is an alliance in DUST and on other games. We don't have any official press release for other games. Behind closed doors, or public everyone knows where we stand.
Here you have a corp pretending to NOT be in an alliance, yet they are in one
You say they're in a none aggressive deal? sure |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:34:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:
If you're calling it an alliance, then of course it matters what you mean by the word. You're trying to have it both ways here.
I don't see how a definition of a word matters. Behind closed doors they're an alliance. In public they're acting as though they're not in one. My opinion of what it is, is different to yours. So your definition by default is also different. You don't see how the definition of a word matters? Are you trolling me? Wait, don't tell me. The answer will be meaningless. Alliance (capital "a") - official association in New Eden alliance (lower case "a") - loose confederation with no official relationship Same thing happens here: Earth (capital "e") - the planet earth (lower case "e") - dirt
Nope, an alliance is an official relationship regardless of its context in or out of game. It's a co-operative group following a common goal. "I won't punch you in the face" is not an alliance.
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2065
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:39:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:
If you're calling it an alliance, then of course it matters what you mean by the word. You're trying to have it both ways here.
I don't see how a definition of a word matters. Behind closed doors they're an alliance. In public they're acting as though they're not in one. My opinion of what it is, is different to yours. So your definition by default is also different. You don't see how the definition of a word matters? Are you trolling me? Wait, don't tell me. The answer will be meaningless. Alliance (capital "a") - official association in New Eden alliance (lower case "a") - loose confederation with no official relationship Same thing happens here: Earth (capital "e") - the planet earth (lower case "e") - dirt Nope, an alliance is an official relationship regardless of its context in or out of game. It's a co-operative group following a common goal. "I won't punch you in the face" is not an alliance.
I disagree - "official" indicates something formal. You can have an informal alliance with someone that can fall apart. Traditionally in New Eden these are referred to as coalitions, though you can make a case for alliance (little "a").
People have "wink wink nod nod" partnerships all the time, both in game and in real life. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:42:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:So people need an "official" name below their corp name to be considered in an alliance? If so lol @ your definition of being in an alliance. EoN is an alliance in DUST and on other games. We don't have any official press release for other games. Behind closed doors, or public everyone knows where we stand. Here you have a corp pretending to NOT be in an alliance, yet they are in one You say they're in a none aggressive deal? sure
I didn't say they need an official title to be in an alliance. Please don't put words in my mouth. What you're doing is called equivocation: trying to tie the connotations of the specific use of a word to more vague definition.
An actual alliance would be sustained co-ordinated efforts. Your attempt at metagaming is transparent. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4102
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:51:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:So people need an "official" name below their corp name to be considered in an alliance? If so lol @ your definition of being in an alliance. EoN is an alliance in DUST and on other games. We don't have any official press release for other games. Behind closed doors, or public everyone knows where we stand. Here you have a corp pretending to NOT be in an alliance, yet they are in one You say they're in a none aggressive deal? sure I didn't say they need an official title to be in an alliance. Please don't put words in my mouth. What you're doing is called equivocation: trying to tie the connotations of the specific use of a word to more vague definition. An actual alliance would be sustained co-ordinated efforts. Your attempt at metagaming is transparent.
metagaming? hahahaha
Bro, I haven't played this game in about a month.
Just saying, what happening in this thread is a joke. Pretending to not be in an alliance? Then want to call me out for trying to metagame?
Lol...I'll wait till I hear about this group in PS2. But but, they're not an alliance! How can they be working together?! I thought they were just not attacking each other! lol
I'll see them in PS2 I'm sure. EU Donuts ftw, even if they're "not in an alliance"
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:00:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:So people need an "official" name below their corp name to be considered in an alliance? If so lol @ your definition of being in an alliance. EoN is an alliance in DUST and on other games. We don't have any official press release for other games. Behind closed doors, or public everyone knows where we stand. Here you have a corp pretending to NOT be in an alliance, yet they are in one You say they're in a none aggressive deal? sure I didn't say they need an official title to be in an alliance. Please don't put words in my mouth. What you're doing is called equivocation: trying to tie the connotations of the specific use of a word to more vague definition. An actual alliance would be sustained co-ordinated efforts. Your attempt at metagaming is transparent. metagaming? hahahaha Bro, I haven't played this game in about a month. Just saying, what happening in this thread is a joke. Pretending to not be in an alliance? Then want to call me out for trying to metagame? Lol...I'll wait till I hear about this group in PS2. But but, they're not an alliance! How can they be working together?! I thought they were just not attacking each other! lol I'll see them in PS2 I'm sure. EU Donuts ftw, even if they're "not in an alliance"
How does playing one game with people you know from another game constitute an alliance? You're clutching at straws now, and still haven't addressed the original issue that you simply used the word "alliance" wrong. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:04:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
I don't see how a definition of a word matters.
Behind closed doors they're an alliance. In public they're acting as though they're not in one.
My opinion of what it is, is different to yours. So your definition by default is also different.
You don't see how the definition of a word matters? Are you trolling me? Wait, don't tell me. The answer will be meaningless. Alliance (capital "a") - official association in New Eden alliance (lower case "a") - loose confederation with no official relationship Same thing happens here: Earth (capital "e") - the planet earth (lower case "e") - dirt Nope, an alliance is an official relationship regardless of its context in or out of game. It's a co-operative group following a common goal. "I won't punch you in the face" is not an alliance. I disagree - "official" indicates something formal. You can have an informal alliance with someone that can fall apart. Traditionally in New Eden these are referred to as coalitions, though you can make a case for alliance (little "a"). People have "wink wink nod nod" partnerships all the time, both in game and in real life.
Formal and official, alliance and coalition, these are both synonyms. So I'm afraid I'm not sure what distinction you are making. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2065
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:19:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Formal and official, alliance and coalition, these are both synonyms. So I'm afraid I'm not sure what distinction you are making.
In New Eden, there are game mechanics for an Alliance. There are rules for operation dictated by the games, and there is an in game monthly fee to maintain the alliance. If you want to join an Alliance, you have to submit an application, much as players in Dust submit applications to corporations. As a CEO of a corporation, you then declare support for the corporation you want to "lead" the Alliance. If your alliance goes to war (another mechanism in the game) you don't get a choice as a corporation - you are put into a situation where you are at war with another group of players (means nothing in Dust, but in Eve it means pilots can be shot anytime and anywhere, regardless of circumstances). Etc.
A "coalition" in Eve is a group of corporations or Alliances working together toward a common goal, but there is no mechnism behind this. All you need to "join" is the good faith of the other people that they won't hurt you - you have to trust them, there is not game mechanic to protect you. If someone in your coalition goes to war, you are not dragged into it, and there is no actual ISK cost because it is just a handshake agreement.
I hope this clears it up - it is not always clear and I see where it might be confusing.
EDIT: think legal binding agreement in a court of law vs an agreement between neighbors that they won't make too much noise. |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:40:00 -
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@Lance
We're not going to attack and ring against those corps just because they're personal friends of mine and friendly corps since MAG. In fact, UPS have never been in Cronos, GAC are actually in ROFL, AI and What the French in Cronos (I think). There's no pact between us. No one ever agreed this, we just decided by ourselves. Moreover they're not all the EU corps around here. In other words, we will attack them if needed when needed. |
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