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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1827
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:03:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Hello everybody!
Some of you may already know me, some others may never heard of me, so let's do presentation first.
I'm Maphia Clan Corporation diplomat and PR, and former CEO.
I'm typing here, just because we want to let you know that we're being involved in Planetary Conquest again, this time we're not going (temporarily) to join any alliance or coalition.
We did a lot of fresh new stuff in our corporation.
- We split the corporation into two:
Maphia Clan Corporation is now the non-active players corporation and is our Academy.
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn is now our active top players corporation
-We made polls in order to "pass" the power periodically. The new "legal" system have been designed taking inspiration from the "Ius Comune"
-Maphia Clan Corporation won't participate in any Planetary Conquest Battle as a Corporation.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will attack several districts. We will claim our Prime first.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will ring for anybody who can actually pay.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn won't ring against the following Corporations:
- Grupo de Asalto Chacal
- United Pwnage Service
- What the French
- What the French Academy
- Academy Inferno
- Seraphim Initiative..
- Seraphim Auxiliaries
-Please note that Maphia Clan Corporation members, led by a Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn player, may ring for any corporation, for educational purposes only.
-We may even ring for free if you show us you got a rainbow inside of you, otherwise the fee may change from player to player. You can hire an entire squad, with a Huge discount.
-We won't play against each others. If this is the case we'll chose the best offerer and ring for him, giving notice to both corporations within a reasonable amount of time ( 5 hours before battle )
If you want to hire any of us, or an entire squad, or multiple members feel free to join our public channel =Maphia Clan= or contact me via private mail.
Thanks for your attention,
Maphia Clan Diplomat and PR. So does this mean you and all the corps you listed will stop going into pub games like ambush etc in full proto gear calling out 3 tanks in multi squads and pubstomping new players then ??? It's funny because whilst all the good corps were doing FW you guys were still pubstomping in proto gear in the pub games ... Scrub alliance .. alliance is full of scrubs xD
U mad bro? |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1827
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:05:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Says they're not in an alliance but won't attack CRONOS or "former" CRONOS corps... lol Good one man 
An alliance involves coordinated tactics. What's described here is little more than one half of a mutual nonaggression pact. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1827
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:30:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Says they're not in an alliance but won't attack CRONOS or "former" CRONOS corps... lol Good one man An alliance involves coordinated tactics. What's described here is little more than one half of a mutual nonaggression pact. It's alliance still. Just because they're not coordinating with each other has no effect on this lol Just because they don't have an alliance below their name doesn't mean squat either. Maphia Clan is in CRONOS, and not attacking their allies only cements this. If there were other corps on that list that were never part of CRONOS i would agree it's a none aggression deal, but lol. All the corps there belongs / belonged to CRONOS... aka, the EU Donut. Only corp not there is Betamax... simply because they no longer exist... at least AFAIC
You're just broadening the meaning of the term "alliance" until it fits the what you want to say about them. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:16:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Says they're not in an alliance but won't attack CRONOS or "former" CRONOS corps... lol Good one man An alliance involves coordinated tactics. What's described here is little more than one half of a mutual nonaggression pact. It's alliance still. Just because they're not coordinating with each other has no effect on this lol Just because they don't have an alliance below their name doesn't mean squat either. Maphia Clan is in CRONOS, and not attacking their allies only cements this. If there were other corps on that list that were never part of CRONOS i would agree it's a none aggression deal, but lol. All the corps there belongs / belonged to CRONOS... aka, the EU Donut. Only corp not there is Betamax... simply because they no longer exist... at least AFAIC You're just broadening the meaning of the term "alliance" until it fits the what you want to say about them. meh. Doesn't matter what you or me term it as. Fact is they're not attacking corps they were allied with before, and are still saying "they not in alliance" lol... this is a joke. "Hey guys, we'll ring for people except against the EU corps!" which happens to be corps in CRONOS How cute
If you're calling it an alliance, then of course it matters what you mean by the word. You're trying to have it both ways here. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:18:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Hello everybody!
Some of you may already know me, some others may never heard of me, so let's do presentation first.
I'm Maphia Clan Corporation diplomat and PR, and former CEO.
I'm typing here, just because we want to let you know that we're being involved in Planetary Conquest again, this time we're not going (temporarily) to join any alliance or coalition.
We did a lot of fresh new stuff in our corporation.
- We split the corporation into two:
Maphia Clan Corporation is now the non-active players corporation and is our Academy.
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn is now our active top players corporation
-We made polls in order to "pass" the power periodically. The new "legal" system have been designed taking inspiration from the "Ius Comune"
-Maphia Clan Corporation won't participate in any Planetary Conquest Battle as a Corporation.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will attack several districts. We will claim our Prime first.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn will ring for anybody who can actually pay.
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn won't ring against the following Corporations:
- Grupo de Asalto Chacal
- United Pwnage Service
- What the French
- What the French Academy
- Academy Inferno
- Seraphim Initiative..
- Seraphim Auxiliaries
-Please note that Maphia Clan Corporation members, led by a Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn player, may ring for any corporation, for educational purposes only.
-We may even ring for free if you show us you got a rainbow inside of you, otherwise the fee may change from player to player. You can hire an entire squad, with a Huge discount.
-We won't play against each others. If this is the case we'll chose the best offerer and ring for him, giving notice to both corporations within a reasonable amount of time ( 5 hours before battle )
If you want to hire any of us, or an entire squad, or multiple members feel free to join our public channel =Maphia Clan= or contact me via private mail.
Thanks for your attention,
Maphia Clan Diplomat and PR. So does this mean you and all the corps you listed will stop going into pub games like ambush etc in full proto gear calling out 3 tanks in multi squads and pubstomping new players then ??? It's funny because whilst all the good corps were doing FW you guys were still pubstomping in proto gear in the pub games ... Scrub alliance .. alliance is full of scrubs xD U mad bro? Nope, I just asked a question and referred to them as scrubs .. but nice troll attempt
*said without a hint of irony* |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:25:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:
If you're calling it an alliance, then of course it matters what you mean by the word. You're trying to have it both ways here.
I don't see how a definition of a word matters. Behind closed doors they're an alliance. In public they're acting as though they're not in one. My opinion of what it is, is different to yours. So your definition by default is also different.
You don't see how the definition of a word matters?
Are you trolling me?
Wait, don't tell me. The answer will be meaningless. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:34:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:
If you're calling it an alliance, then of course it matters what you mean by the word. You're trying to have it both ways here.
I don't see how a definition of a word matters. Behind closed doors they're an alliance. In public they're acting as though they're not in one. My opinion of what it is, is different to yours. So your definition by default is also different. You don't see how the definition of a word matters? Are you trolling me? Wait, don't tell me. The answer will be meaningless. Alliance (capital "a") - official association in New Eden alliance (lower case "a") - loose confederation with no official relationship Same thing happens here: Earth (capital "e") - the planet earth (lower case "e") - dirt
Nope, an alliance is an official relationship regardless of its context in or out of game. It's a co-operative group following a common goal. "I won't punch you in the face" is not an alliance.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:42:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:So people need an "official" name below their corp name to be considered in an alliance? If so lol @ your definition of being in an alliance. EoN is an alliance in DUST and on other games. We don't have any official press release for other games. Behind closed doors, or public everyone knows where we stand. Here you have a corp pretending to NOT be in an alliance, yet they are in one You say they're in a none aggressive deal? sure 
I didn't say they need an official title to be in an alliance. Please don't put words in my mouth.
What you're doing is called equivocation: trying to tie the connotations of the specific use of a word to more vague definition.
An actual alliance would be sustained co-ordinated efforts. Your attempt at metagaming is transparent. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:00:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:So people need an "official" name below their corp name to be considered in an alliance? If so lol @ your definition of being in an alliance. EoN is an alliance in DUST and on other games. We don't have any official press release for other games. Behind closed doors, or public everyone knows where we stand. Here you have a corp pretending to NOT be in an alliance, yet they are in one You say they're in a none aggressive deal? sure I didn't say they need an official title to be in an alliance. Please don't put words in my mouth. What you're doing is called equivocation: trying to tie the connotations of the specific use of a word to more vague definition. An actual alliance would be sustained co-ordinated efforts. Your attempt at metagaming is transparent. metagaming? hahahaha Bro, I haven't played this game in about a month. Just saying, what happening in this thread is a joke. Pretending to not be in an alliance? Then want to call me out for trying to metagame? Lol...I'll wait till I hear about this group in PS2. But but, they're not an alliance! How can they be working together?! I thought they were just not attacking each other! lol I'll see them in PS2 I'm sure. EU Donuts ftw, even if they're "not in an alliance" 
How does playing one game with people you know from another game constitute an alliance? You're clutching at straws now, and still haven't addressed the original issue that you simply used the word "alliance" wrong. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:04:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
I don't see how a definition of a word matters.
Behind closed doors they're an alliance. In public they're acting as though they're not in one.
My opinion of what it is, is different to yours. So your definition by default is also different.
You don't see how the definition of a word matters? Are you trolling me? Wait, don't tell me. The answer will be meaningless. Alliance (capital "a") - official association in New Eden alliance (lower case "a") - loose confederation with no official relationship Same thing happens here: Earth (capital "e") - the planet earth (lower case "e") - dirt Nope, an alliance is an official relationship regardless of its context in or out of game. It's a co-operative group following a common goal. "I won't punch you in the face" is not an alliance. I disagree - "official" indicates something formal. You can have an informal alliance with someone that can fall apart. Traditionally in New Eden these are referred to as coalitions, though you can make a case for alliance (little "a"). People have "wink wink nod nod" partnerships all the time, both in game and in real life.
Formal and official, alliance and coalition, these are both synonyms. So I'm afraid I'm not sure what distinction you are making. |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1835
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:34:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
-Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn won't ring against the following Corporations:
- Grupo de Asalto Chacal
- United Pwnage Service
- What the French
- What the French Academy
- Academy Inferno
- Seraphim Initiative..
- Seraphim Auxiliaries
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So yea you are still in the old CRONOS alliance because you dont want to attack them just incase you need an alliance to back you up if it all goes **** up
The distinction between an alliance and what Maphia is describing here has already been established. |
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