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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:34:00 -
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I wouldn't say assault rifles are OP, but they seriously need a range nerf. I constantly get my health melted away by just a few bullets from 50+ meters away. I actually just died extremely fast from 69m away from a duvolle....while the guy had to shoot through a crack to kill me. While I am using the laser rifle I constantly find my self shooting at AR users from range and them MATCHING my range/damage output... ARs are not OP but they have some ridiculous range if you can take out 400+ hp in a split second from more than 60m.
This is all just my opinion though, curious to see what you guys think. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1822
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:35:00 -
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AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
934
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:35:00 -
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:36:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:I wouldn't say assault rifles are OP, but they seriously need a range nerf. I constantly get my health melted away by just a few bullets from 50+ meters away. I actually just died extremely fast from 69m away from a duvolle....while the guy had to shoot through a crack to kill me. While I am using the laser rifle I constantly find my self shooting at AR users from range and them MATCHING my range/damage output... ARs are not OP but they have some ridiculous range if you can take out 400+ hp in a split second from more than 60m.
This is all just my opinion though, curious to see what you guys think.
Eat more Tacos to get good.. Your optimal range isn't around 69m |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1542
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:37:00 -
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I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2147
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:38:00 -
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AR isnt open and chances are that guy either had a mouse if he was tracking you so well at that distance or you were doing some dumb **** like standing still because you thought he was in your optimal and you should win just because of that |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:38:00 -
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:I wouldn't say assault rifles are OP, but they seriously need a range nerf. I constantly get my health melted away by just a few bullets from 50+ meters away. I actually just died extremely fast from 69m away from a duvolle....while the guy had to shoot through a crack to kill me. While I am using the laser rifle I constantly find my self shooting at AR users from range and them MATCHING my range/damage output... ARs are not OP but they have some ridiculous range if you can take out 400+ hp in a split second from more than 60m.
This is all just my opinion though, curious to see what you guys think. Eat more Tacos to get good..
I didn't say it was? How could you even know my optimal range without knowing what wep I was using... |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1179
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:39:00 -
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i agree. it should just be a souped up SMG. effetive up to 35m 100%. then 50% at 40. then 20% at 45. then 5% at 50. then 0% at 55m |
Alpha 443-6732
843 Boot Camp
171
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:40:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
The range is already low enough as it is, damn it. Just buff all the other appropriate weapons ranges instead. |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:40:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range |
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8213
Grade No.2
400
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:41:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:I wouldn't say assault rifles are OP, but they seriously need a range nerf. I constantly get my health melted away by just a few bullets from 50+ meters away. I actually just died extremely fast from 69m away from a duvolle....while the guy had to shoot through a crack to kill me. While I am using the laser rifle I constantly find my self shooting at AR users from range and them MATCHING my range/damage output... ARs are not OP but they have some ridiculous range if you can take out 400+ hp in a split second from more than 60m.
This is all just my opinion though, curious to see what you guys think.
Its always the Duvolle you see this with. If the player has full proficiency, sharpshooter, and maybe a couple damage mods, they can chip away from 60m. Probably can't do that with a Standard though. I was pegged dead at 70m today(I was in a starter fit too) and was a little frustrated. It didn't kill me right away, I was running away trying to avoid and eventually he clipped me down because of his superior equipment. The damage drop may need work but 70m is rather short considering the maps are 2km wide.
What I want, is my charged SCR to have same range as a single shot. |
Alpha 443-6732
843 Boot Camp
171
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:41:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread
Do you mean the falloff rate?
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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:42:00 -
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Alpha 443-6732 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
The range is already low enough as it is, damn it. Just buff all the other appropriate weapons ranges instead. Probably the best response I have seen so far. I really like this idea considering all the other weapon ranged aren't even as far as you can chuck a nade |
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
246
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:48:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread People call me dumb saying I want a nerf...but what I've been saying is AR is a place holder and range will be nerfed..you seem to get it though |
8213
Grade No.2
400
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:49:00 -
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Alpha 443-6732 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread Do you mean the falloff rate?
In FPS games, when they talk about range and a form of measure they are referring to fall off rate |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1542
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:50:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range
Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily.
You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets.
Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem?
Yea...okay |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1827
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:51:00 -
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8213 wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread Do you mean the falloff rate? In FPS games, when they talk about range and a form of measure they are referring to fall off rate
Fall off rate and dispersion over range . |
Alpha 443-6732
843 Boot Camp
171
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:56:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:8213 wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread Do you mean the falloff rate? In FPS games, when they talk about range and a form of measure they are referring to fall off rate Fall off rate and dispersion over range .
Honestly I think the ADS dispersion needs to be more in line with the current ASCR, and the ASCR shouldn't have any recoil or dispersion at all (it's a laser).
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
247
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:57:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay Okay plasma man...go look into it then come back you will find out why AR has shortest range of all rifles |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:58:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay
You are a dumbass, I didn't complain about swarms having lock ons...I complained about it being impossible to dodge them. Just because I post on the forums does not mean I read other peoples posts. I have also never complained about the range of the AR until now, so keep your stupid **** to yourself. I hate that so many people came to my post and talk **** even when I said ARs are not OP.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:01:00 -
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AR OP?
Where's Regynum?
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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:02:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:AR OP?
Where's Regynum?
I literally said they weren't OP |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1543
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:19:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay You are a dumbass, I didn't complain about swarms having lock ons...I complained about it being impossible to dodge them. Just because I post on the forums does not mean I read other peoples posts. I have also never complained about the range of the AR until now, so keep your stupid **** to yourself. I hate that so many people came to my post and talk **** even when I said ARs are not OP.
So I'm a dumbass but yet you couldn't understand why swarms didn't miss you because they were locked on to your heat signature?
Your incompetence got you killed today and you made a thread about it. You wondering why a AR can hit you at 69m shows you have no right calling people dumbasses. Your failed understanding that not everybody will agree with your opinion furthers alienates you in the "brains of wonder" category.
We AR users are tired of you guys, yea you guys, posting the most inane comments about ARs constantly.
69m is just too much range for AR? Is this guy kidding me?
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:26:00 -
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*cough* plasma is cold now "what has happend?" Reality hit... |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
76
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:53:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay You are a dumbass, I didn't complain about swarms having lock ons...I complained about it being impossible to dodge them. Just because I post on the forums does not mean I read other peoples posts. I have also never complained about the range of the AR until now, so keep your stupid **** to yourself. I hate that so many people came to my post and talk **** even when I said ARs are not OP. So I'm a dumbass but yet you couldn't understand why swarms didn't miss you because they were locked on to your heat signature? Your incompetence got you killed today and you made a thread about it. You wondering why a AR can hit you at 69m shows you have no right calling people dumbasses. Your failed understanding that not everybody will agree with your opinion furthers alienates you in the "brains of wonder" category. We AR users are tired of you guys, yea you guys, posting the most inane comments about ARs constantly. 69m is just too much range for AR? Is this guy kidding me? f
ARS are OP I said it. Even laser users are getting out ranged. How about you and the rest get off the AR crutch train already.You talk about QQ everytime a AR user dies he comes to the forums to QQ.You Ar crutch scrubs got everything nerfed because your the majority.Aim assist, no recoil,no drawbacks ,insane ttk,little skill investment, and using that takes skill. You Ar are nothing more than a ccp charity case. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1547
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:59:00 -
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Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. |
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:05:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. CCP post in here to show the stats of rifles or atleast ranges so scrubs like this see how the AR really is it would stop a lot of threads too |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1548
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:09:00 -
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. CCP post in here to show the stats of rifles or atleast ranges so scrubs like this see how the AR really is it would stop a lot of threads too
Yea it just too bad the only win you have in life is in the virtual realms of New Eden.
So tell me this, brainchild, an AR doesn't have a range of 69m? Really?
You either suck at math or don't know weaponry at all...in this case its both. Before call someone a scrub, how about you at first try to be an intelligent life form. |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:10:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay You are a dumbass, I didn't complain about swarms having lock ons...I complained about it being impossible to dodge them. Just because I post on the forums does not mean I read other peoples posts. I have also never complained about the range of the AR until now, so keep your stupid **** to yourself. I hate that so many people came to my post and talk **** even when I said ARs are not OP. So I'm a dumbass but yet you couldn't understand why swarms didn't miss you because they were locked on to your heat signature? Your incompetence got you killed today and you made a thread about it. You wondering why a AR can hit you at 69m shows you have no right calling people dumbasses. Your failed understanding that not everybody will agree with your opinion furthers alienates you in the "brains of wonder" category. We AR users are tired of you guys, yea you guys, posting the most inane comments about ARs constantly. 69m is just too much range for AR? Is this guy kidding me?
JEEEZ YOU ARE SO DUMB, and now look at you trying to take the high road hahaha. Look....I don't give a **** if it locks on to my heat signature, if the rockets fly past me, why the **** would they do a 180 and come back and hit me? Read the whole ******* post before you keep commenting with stupid comments. "We AR users" I use ARs too, and they outrange everything except for snipers. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1548
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:13:00 -
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Oh shut up, you only spoke up when some others jumped on your bandwagon. Until then you didn't have a leg to stand on and you still don't.
High road? Only you and that other guy decide to call people names when you have no clear way to express yourself. I can call you names as well, its just more fun beating your silliness with intelligence. What are you talking about? 69m for a AR is too much range for you. You said that dumb statement. Short controlled busts allow for better range. But a pansy like you wouldn't know that... |
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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:13:00 -
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Michael Arck you seriously should just leave this thread and stop attacking people that comment on your precious AR. No need to get so damn worked up, its a forum, you don't have to ***** everyone out because they don't like your AR either. I was just looking for opinions on the situation but you just had to come a douche it up. |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:15:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Oh shut up, you only spoke up when some others jumped on your bandwagon. Until then you didn't have a leg to stand on and you still don't.
High road? What are you talking about? 69m for a AR is too much range for you. You said that dumb statement. Short controlled busts allow for better range. But a pansy like you wouldn't know that...
Short controlled bursts? HAHAHAHAHA the AR doesn't have any kick until a few seconds into firing, short controlled bursts aren't even necessary. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1548
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:16:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh shut up, you only spoke up when some others jumped on your bandwagon. Until then you didn't have a leg to stand on and you still don't.
High road? What are you talking about? 69m for a AR is too much range for you. You said that dumb statement. Short controlled busts allow for better range. But a pansy like you wouldn't know that... Short controlled bursts? HAHAHAHAHA the AR doesn't have any kick until a few seconds into firing, short controlled bursts aren't even necessary.
Yea because if you just hold onto the trigger, the gun will spit and then begin to raise because you haven't let go of the trigger. You are mad corny man.
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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:16:00 -
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Cmon Mike keep it up!
I do it for the lolz |
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:17:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. CCP post in here to show the stats of rifles or atleast ranges so scrubs like this see how the AR really is it would stop a lot of threads too Yea it just too bad the only win you have in life is in the virtual realms of New Eden. So tell me this, brainchild, an AR doesn't have a range of 69m? Really? You either suck at math or don't know weaponry at all...in this case its both. Before call someone a scrub, how about you at first try to be an intelligent life form. Its plasma ***** don't try and say you know how plasma shoots cuz you don't |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1548
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:17:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck you seriously should just leave this thread and stop attacking people that comment on your precious AR. No need to get so damn worked up, its a forum, you don't have to ***** everyone out because they don't like your AR either. I was just looking for opinions on the situation but you just had to come a douche it up.
Have I called you a name sir? Have a called you a dumb ass? A scrub? Or used a expletive to voice my opinion to you? But I'm attacking people? Is that what they call it when someone doesn't agree with their comments and opinions?
Maybe you should revisit puberty and do some push ups. You're softer than melted ice cream |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:18:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh shut up, you only spoke up when some others jumped on your bandwagon. Until then you didn't have a leg to stand on and you still don't.
High road? What are you talking about? 69m for a AR is too much range for you. You said that dumb statement. Short controlled busts allow for better range. But a pansy like you wouldn't know that... Short controlled bursts? HAHAHAHAHA the AR doesn't have any kick until a few seconds into firing, short controlled bursts aren't even necessary. Yea because if you just hold onto the trigger, the gun will spit and then begin to raise because you haven't let go of the trigger. You are mad corny man. LOL corny man! I ain't even mad bro, you are the one who sounds mad if anything, crying about your fuckin AR. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1549
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:19:00 -
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote:Michael Arck wrote:DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. CCP post in here to show the stats of rifles or atleast ranges so scrubs like this see how the AR really is it would stop a lot of threads too Yea it just too bad the only win you have in life is in the virtual realms of New Eden. So tell me this, brainchild, an AR doesn't have a range of 69m? Really? You either suck at math or don't know weaponry at all...in this case its both. Before call someone a scrub, how about you at first try to be an intelligent life form. Its plasma ***** don't try and say you know how plasma shoots cuz you don't
So plasma weapons, thermal plasma weapons, can't have a range of 69m? Plasma can't have that range? You're an idiot
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
718
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:20:00 -
[39] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread
succinct. this guy's like the usa today and ****. |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:20:00 -
[40] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck you seriously should just leave this thread and stop attacking people that comment on your precious AR. No need to get so damn worked up, its a forum, you don't have to ***** everyone out because they don't like your AR either. I was just looking for opinions on the situation but you just had to come a douche it up. Have I called you a name sir? Have a called you a dumb ass? A scrub? Or used a expletive to voice my opinion to you? But I'm attacking people? Is that what they call it when someone doesn't agree with their comments and opinions? Maybe you should revisit puberty and do some push ups. You're softer than melted ice cream Hahaha now you try to insult my manliness? You are a sad sad person. I bet you can't even do 20 push ups yourself. I love melted ice cream so I don't see the problem in that. an expletive* Yeah I'm vulgar, so what? |
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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:22:00 -
[41] - Quote
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote:Michael Arck wrote:DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. CCP post in here to show the stats of rifles or atleast ranges so scrubs like this see how the AR really is it would stop a lot of threads too Yea it just too bad the only win you have in life is in the virtual realms of New Eden. So tell me this, brainchild, an AR doesn't have a range of 69m? Really? You either suck at math or don't know weaponry at all...in this case its both. Before call someone a scrub, how about you at first try to be an intelligent life form. Its plasma ***** don't try and say you know how plasma shoots cuz you don't Don't worry man, Mikey is just mad
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1549
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:22:00 -
[42] - Quote
I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh shut up, you only spoke up when some others jumped on your bandwagon. Until then you didn't have a leg to stand on and you still don't.
High road? What are you talking about? 69m for a AR is too much range for you. You said that dumb statement. Short controlled busts allow for better range. But a pansy like you wouldn't know that... Short controlled bursts? HAHAHAHAHA the AR doesn't have any kick until a few seconds into firing, short controlled bursts aren't even necessary. Yea because if you just hold onto the trigger, the gun will spit and then begin to raise because you haven't let go of the trigger. You are mad corny man. LOL corny man! I ain't even mad bro, you are the one who sounds mad if anything, crying about your fuckin AR.
Now I'm crying about my AR? You know, dumb punks never cease to amaze me with their moronic thinking process. You're crying about getting killed from a AR from 69m out?
Like I said, you're softer than melted ice cream. So keep on cursing, its all that you got left in that rotted brain of yours.
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
250
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:22:00 -
[43] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote:Michael Arck wrote:DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. CCP post in here to show the stats of rifles or atleast ranges so scrubs like this see how the AR really is it would stop a lot of threads too Yea it just too bad the only win you have in life is in the virtual realms of New Eden. So tell me this, brainchild, an AR doesn't have a range of 69m? Really? You either suck at math or don't know weaponry at all...in this case its both. Before call someone a scrub, how about you at first try to be an intelligent life form. Its plasma ***** don't try and say you know how plasma shoots cuz you don't So plasma weapons, thermal plasma weapons, can't have a range of 69m? Plasma can't have that range? You're an idiot I'm an idiot? Ask ccp dumb ass your getting on my nerve you think you know something but you don't...ask ccp why the made it that way its not me doing it but the plasma shooting twinkie has the shortest range |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1842
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:22:00 -
[44] - Quote
You just have to love forums, everybody calling everybody else scrubs, fighting over E-peen, getting angry all over the world... it just brings me tears of joy... keep at it... you fulfill me.... |
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
250
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:25:00 -
[45] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:You just have to love forums, everybody calling everybody else scrubs, fighting over E-peen, getting angry all over the world... it just brings me tears of joy... keep at it... you fulfill me.... Its fun |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1549
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:26:00 -
[46] - Quote
LOL and what you're going to do about it? Get killed by my AR at 69m range and come to the forums and cry about it like the punk you are?? |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1842
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:27:00 -
[47] - Quote
Let the hate flow through you... |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:27:00 -
[48] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh shut up, you only spoke up when some others jumped on your bandwagon. Until then you didn't have a leg to stand on and you still don't.
High road? What are you talking about? 69m for a AR is too much range for you. You said that dumb statement. Short controlled busts allow for better range. But a pansy like you wouldn't know that... Short controlled bursts? HAHAHAHAHA the AR doesn't have any kick until a few seconds into firing, short controlled bursts aren't even necessary. Yea because if you just hold onto the trigger, the gun will spit and then begin to raise because you haven't let go of the trigger. You are mad corny man. LOL corny man! I ain't even mad bro, you are the one who sounds mad if anything, crying about your fuckin AR. Now I'm crying about my AR? You know, dumb punks never cease to amaze me with their moronic thinking process. You're crying about getting killed from a AR from 69m out? Like I said, you're softer than melted ice cream. So keep on cursing, its all that you got left in that rotted brain of yours. Now you are just plain crying lol. "Softer than melted ice cream" you don't even know me son. |
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
250
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:28:00 -
[49] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:LOL and what you're going to do about it? Get killed by my AR at 69m range and come to the forums and cry about it like the punk you are?? I have ar and scr pro 5 soo have fun |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:29:00 -
[50] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:You just have to love forums, everybody calling everybody else scrubs, fighting over E-peen, getting angry all over the world... it just brings me tears of joy... keep at it... you fulfill me.... Mikey is mad |
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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1181
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Posted - 2013.10.17 04:21:00 -
[51] - Quote
Or instead of trying to fight the AR u could spec into like i am about to. ive got 2 mil UA SP with duvolle written allover it. nothing is sure to nerf a weapon like me speccing into it. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1211
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Posted - 2013.10.17 04:24:00 -
[52] - Quote
Sorry to burst all your bubbles, but the AR has a range of 200+
Whoops, must have slipped everyone's mind. |
Auraxos
DUST University Ivy League
9
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Posted - 2013.10.17 04:40:00 -
[53] - Quote
Didn't even read your post but listen to this.
"Assault Rifles are OP. Everyone uses Assault Rifles. Everyone is OP. Everyone is OP = Balance."
If you aren't using Assault Rifles, hurry up and join the rest of the community before you get nerfed. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
87
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:58:00 -
[54] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:You just have to love forums, everybody calling everybody else scrubs, fighting over E-peen, getting angry all over the world... it just brings me tears of joy... keep at it... you fulfill me....
The forums are more fun |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
87
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:06:00 -
[55] - Quote
Meeko Fent wrote:Sorry to burst all your bubbles but this is a game.Real life facts do not apply.
Whoops, must have slipped everyone's mind.
fixed it
Are we talking about real life? If so turn on friendly fire in all gamemode.This way I can pc Ar on my team in the back. Betrayal and friendly fire is also real.
Ps. show me a real life version of any of dust weapons if not H T F U about real life weapons. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6155
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:10:00 -
[56] - Quote
I put down my MD and picked up the AR this week, slowly investing my future combat rifle SP into it. I have a GEK-38, sharpshooter level 3 and can solo anything but a Duvolle or proto heavy with a boundless toe-to-toe. I'm killing scouts, MD users and just about anything else in my way just by hip firing. The only time I actually have to ADS is against laser users, hitting them just outside of my rendering distance. My KDR has shot up 0.11 in a day just with aim assist on and hip firing, getting 10-15 kills a match on average.
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2082
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:15:00 -
[57] - Quote
All I want to know is why does the Duvolle TAR have a better range then the ScR. This dev blog clearly states that laser weaponry (the Scrambler Rifle) should have a better range then plasma weaponry (the Assault Rifle). |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
87
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:LOL and what am I going to do about it? Come to the forums and cry about Ar hate like the punk I Am??
I'm mad
Fixed it
wow he mad, look coming to the forums won't stop AR hate accept that its OP.
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Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
147
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:21:00 -
[59] - Quote
I dont think the Ar needs a nerf, but I do think the HMG should have better range than it. Because its a machinegun after all. Meant to suppress infantry and all... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6155
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:44:00 -
[60] - Quote
Kane Fyea wrote:All I want to know is why does the Duvolle TAR have a better range then the ScR. This dev blog clearly states that laser weaponry (the Scrambler Rifle) should have a better range then plasma weaponry (the Assault Rifle). The AR is still a placeholder and the default rifle until we get the combat and rail rifle. Once those come into the game's meta the AR we have now will get nerfed re-balanced and named the plasma rifle, blaster rifle, or whatever the hell it's supposed to be to eliminate the confusion of it being compared to a real life AR-15. |
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Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
61
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
AR now is probably a placeholder, but anyway the real thing the AR needs is recoil, kind of battlefield recoil, because the range is not the problem, the problem is extremely high accuracy of the AR at very long range at full auto, i can keep firing my 60 bullet clip to a target at 70 meters and i will miss 1/3 of the clip, instead of firing by burst at long range to keep on your target, but full auto at medium range or close range, its a very low skill high reward weapon, its not broken OP BUT it does have an advantage to other weapons, also hip-fire is very accurate , it has high damage high rate of fire, high clip size, long range and extreme accuracy, it needs a challenge for players, something to master, right now its very easy to use it, and also the range of the STD AR makes the tactical kind of outclassed, the tactical is supposed to be the high accuracy one |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6158
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:59:00 -
[62] - Quote
Phazoid wrote:AR now is probably a placeholder, but anyway the real thing the AR needs is recoil, kind of battlefield recoil, because the range is not the problem, the problem is extremely high accuracy of the AR at very long range at full auto, i can keep firing my 60 bullet clip to a target at 70 meters and i will miss 1/3 of the clip, instead of firing by burst at long range to keep on your target, but full auto at medium range or close range, its a very low skill high reward weapon, its not broken OP BUT it does have an advantage to other weapons, also hip-fire is very accurate , it has high damage high rate of fire, high clip size, long range and extreme accuracy, it needs a challenge for players, something to master, right now its very easy to use it, and also the range of the STD AR makes the tactical kind of outclassed, the tactical is supposed to be the high accuracy one Burst needs some serious attention as well. Fired a whole clip at an unsuspecting target from 39m and barely 12 hits landed and dealt damage... from separate bursts. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
846
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:01:00 -
[63] - Quote
Michael real AR can easily drop someone at well over 200m! But also snipers can hit a watermelon at 2Km, grenades have a kill radius the size of a tank, Shotguns can kill as far as 50m.
This is a game! Ranges are extremely condensed.
AR is typically short mid range. However DUST is unique in that we have weapon types!
Projectile Projectile - Hybrid Energy Energy - Hybrid
Each one has a more preferred range of engagement! However they attempt to copy each other via variations! As such the AR does not offer the typical game style of a 1 weapon soultion, if you want to fight across multiple ranges you need all variations of whichever RR you prefer.
This is also a game where your choice of weaponry extends beyond AR, short range AR, AR with a big mag, sniper shotgun! As such the AR becomes even less of a see all do all soultion giving weapons like the mass driver, shotgun and sniper DISTINCT advantages in certain situations.
Except its not. Why use an MD when an AR is just as effective against a mob? Why use a shotgun when an AR requires no aiming at the same range? Why use a sniper when an AR can be just as accurate by feathering the trigger? Why use a laser when an AR provides more damage with out the need for heat? Why use a HMG when an AR is more powerful at 20m?
The only weapons that you can't beat with an AR is AV! There are no penalties for hipfire, you have ridiculous sized mags, negligible reload time, no ballistics rapid fire rates, unerring accuracy, no kick (if you are getting kick from the AR thrn you are spraying and praying).
The list goes on, but basically the AR has no drawbacks, and truth betold the ScR aren't really any better! |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2013.10.19 02:43:00 -
[64] - Quote
Powerh8er wrote:I dont think the Ar needs a nerf, but I do think the HMG should have better range than it. Because its a machinegun after all. Meant to suppress infantry and all...
Yeah I honestly only said the AR needs less range because everything else has terrible range compared to it, but instead of nerfing its range it might actually be better to boost the other weapon ranges. I don't think though that the HMG should have a better range than an AR, even though in real life a minigun would have more range than an AR. |
NOAMIzzzzz
Pradox XVI
49
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Posted - 2013.10.19 02:46:00 -
[65] - Quote
AR is so not OP what are yall talking about??? |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2013.10.19 20:48:00 -
[66] - Quote
NOAMIzzzzz wrote:AR is so not OP what are yall talking about???
No one said it was |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
82
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Posted - 2013.10.19 21:05:00 -
[67] - Quote
They are op.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1902
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Posted - 2013.10.19 21:19:00 -
[68] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:I put down my MD and picked up the AR this week, slowly investing my future combat rifle SP into it. I have a GEK-38, sharpshooter level 3 and can solo anything but a Duvolle or proto heavy with a boundless toe-to-toe. I'm killing scouts, MD users and just about anything else in my way just by hip firing. The only time I actually have to ADS is against laser users, hitting them just outside of my rendering distance. My KDR has shot up 0.11 in a day just with aim assist on and hip firing, getting 10-15 kills a match on average.
After 4 hours of horrible matchmaking and heavy loses, i decided i needed a break of running around with my beloved laser weaponry,as powerful as it is Its not very effective against MULTIPLE enemies at the same time and thanks to mathmaking i was running into 3+ reds all the time..... I had alredy lost 0.03 K-D ratio that night and i just wanted to play good and win some...
I put on a GEK. I must admit i have NO proficiency with this weapon nor i used Cx Damage mod. I'll just say my K-D ratio went up 0.04 in 1 hour.....
The only thing i must mention becasue i felt cheap, was killing a Laser user while my ''optimal range'' said 60% and he probably had 120%-100%...and i won. LOL |
Brynjar Reko
Militaires Sans Jeux
27
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Posted - 2013.10.19 21:24:00 -
[69] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Because there are three long range rifles right now and only two of them have any downside. We want weapon variety but when the Gallente AR, serving as the stand in for all racial ARs as a standard weapon while if we stick to the "lore" should be a close range weapon, becomes the best choice at any range we tend to get problems. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6193
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Posted - 2013.10.19 23:48:00 -
[70] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cosgar wrote:I put down my MD and picked up the AR this week, slowly investing my future combat rifle SP into it. I have a GEK-38, sharpshooter level 3 and can solo anything but a Duvolle or proto heavy with a boundless toe-to-toe. I'm killing scouts, MD users and just about anything else in my way just by hip firing. The only time I actually have to ADS is against laser users, hitting them just outside of my rendering distance. My KDR has shot up 0.11 in a day just with aim assist on and hip firing, getting 10-15 kills a match on average.
After 4 hours of horrible matchmaking and heavy loses, i decided i needed a break of running around with my beloved laser weaponry,as powerful as it is Its not very effective against MULTIPLE enemies at the same time and thanks to mathmaking i was running into 3+ reds all the time..... I had alredy lost 0.03 K-D ratio that night and i just wanted to play good and win some...
I put on a GEK. I must admit i have NO proficiency with this weapon nor i used Cx Damage mod. I'll just say my K-D ratio went up 0.04 in 1 hour.....
The only thing i must mention becasue i felt cheap, was killing a Laser user while my ''optimal range'' said 60% and he probably had 120%-100%...and i won. LOL I agree. Out of all the kills I've collected with the AR, I can't say that they were earned. Point in a red's general direction, hold down R1 until they die, rinse and repeat. Truly a no skill weapon. |
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1915
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Posted - 2013.10.19 23:50:00 -
[71] - Quote
IM AGAINST NERFS , but fixing the AR's Optimal rage and dispersion rate on full auto fire is NOT a nerf,but balance. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1234
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Posted - 2013.10.21 02:57:00 -
[72] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:IM AGAINST NERFS , but fixing the AR's Optimal rage and dispersion rate on full auto fire is NOT a nerf,but balance. While I'm not disagreeing with what your saying, it NEEDS to be done, buffs and nerfs are all apart of balance.
Just imagine if we buffed ARs cause they felt the MD was OP.
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