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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:34:00 -
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I wouldn't say assault rifles are OP, but they seriously need a range nerf. I constantly get my health melted away by just a few bullets from 50+ meters away. I actually just died extremely fast from 69m away from a duvolle....while the guy had to shoot through a crack to kill me. While I am using the laser rifle I constantly find my self shooting at AR users from range and them MATCHING my range/damage output... ARs are not OP but they have some ridiculous range if you can take out 400+ hp in a split second from more than 60m.
This is all just my opinion though, curious to see what you guys think. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:35:00 -
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AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:35:00 -
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:36:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:I wouldn't say assault rifles are OP, but they seriously need a range nerf. I constantly get my health melted away by just a few bullets from 50+ meters away. I actually just died extremely fast from 69m away from a duvolle....while the guy had to shoot through a crack to kill me. While I am using the laser rifle I constantly find my self shooting at AR users from range and them MATCHING my range/damage output... ARs are not OP but they have some ridiculous range if you can take out 400+ hp in a split second from more than 60m.
This is all just my opinion though, curious to see what you guys think.
Eat more Tacos to get good.. Your optimal range isn't around 69m |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1542
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:37:00 -
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I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:38:00 -
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AR isnt open and chances are that guy either had a mouse if he was tracking you so well at that distance or you were doing some dumb **** like standing still because you thought he was in your optimal and you should win just because of that |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:38:00 -
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:I wouldn't say assault rifles are OP, but they seriously need a range nerf. I constantly get my health melted away by just a few bullets from 50+ meters away. I actually just died extremely fast from 69m away from a duvolle....while the guy had to shoot through a crack to kill me. While I am using the laser rifle I constantly find my self shooting at AR users from range and them MATCHING my range/damage output... ARs are not OP but they have some ridiculous range if you can take out 400+ hp in a split second from more than 60m.
This is all just my opinion though, curious to see what you guys think. Eat more Tacos to get good..
I didn't say it was? How could you even know my optimal range without knowing what wep I was using... |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:39:00 -
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i agree. it should just be a souped up SMG. effetive up to 35m 100%. then 50% at 40. then 20% at 45. then 5% at 50. then 0% at 55m |
Alpha 443-6732
843 Boot Camp
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:40:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
The range is already low enough as it is, damn it. Just buff all the other appropriate weapons ranges instead. |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:40:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range |
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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:41:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:I wouldn't say assault rifles are OP, but they seriously need a range nerf. I constantly get my health melted away by just a few bullets from 50+ meters away. I actually just died extremely fast from 69m away from a duvolle....while the guy had to shoot through a crack to kill me. While I am using the laser rifle I constantly find my self shooting at AR users from range and them MATCHING my range/damage output... ARs are not OP but they have some ridiculous range if you can take out 400+ hp in a split second from more than 60m.
This is all just my opinion though, curious to see what you guys think.
Its always the Duvolle you see this with. If the player has full proficiency, sharpshooter, and maybe a couple damage mods, they can chip away from 60m. Probably can't do that with a Standard though. I was pegged dead at 70m today(I was in a starter fit too) and was a little frustrated. It didn't kill me right away, I was running away trying to avoid and eventually he clipped me down because of his superior equipment. The damage drop may need work but 70m is rather short considering the maps are 2km wide.
What I want, is my charged SCR to have same range as a single shot. |
Alpha 443-6732
843 Boot Camp
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:41:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread
Do you mean the falloff rate?
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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:42:00 -
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Alpha 443-6732 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
The range is already low enough as it is, damn it. Just buff all the other appropriate weapons ranges instead. Probably the best response I have seen so far. I really like this idea considering all the other weapon ranged aren't even as far as you can chuck a nade |
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
246
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:48:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread People call me dumb saying I want a nerf...but what I've been saying is AR is a place holder and range will be nerfed..you seem to get it though |
8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:49:00 -
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Alpha 443-6732 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread Do you mean the falloff rate?
In FPS games, when they talk about range and a form of measure they are referring to fall off rate |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1542
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:50:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range
Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily.
You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets.
Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem?
Yea...okay |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:51:00 -
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8213 wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread Do you mean the falloff rate? In FPS games, when they talk about range and a form of measure they are referring to fall off rate
Fall off rate and dispersion over range . |
Alpha 443-6732
843 Boot Camp
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:56:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:8213 wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:AR is not OP
Range is Broken, will be fixed.
/end Thread Do you mean the falloff rate? In FPS games, when they talk about range and a form of measure they are referring to fall off rate Fall off rate and dispersion over range .
Honestly I think the ADS dispersion needs to be more in line with the current ASCR, and the ASCR shouldn't have any recoil or dispersion at all (it's a laser).
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
247
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:57:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay Okay plasma man...go look into it then come back you will find out why AR has shortest range of all rifles |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:58:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay
You are a dumbass, I didn't complain about swarms having lock ons...I complained about it being impossible to dodge them. Just because I post on the forums does not mean I read other peoples posts. I have also never complained about the range of the AR until now, so keep your stupid **** to yourself. I hate that so many people came to my post and talk **** even when I said ARs are not OP.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1568
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:01:00 -
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AR OP?
Where's Regynum?
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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:02:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:AR OP?
Where's Regynum?
I literally said they weren't OP |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:19:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay You are a dumbass, I didn't complain about swarms having lock ons...I complained about it being impossible to dodge them. Just because I post on the forums does not mean I read other peoples posts. I have also never complained about the range of the AR until now, so keep your stupid **** to yourself. I hate that so many people came to my post and talk **** even when I said ARs are not OP.
So I'm a dumbass but yet you couldn't understand why swarms didn't miss you because they were locked on to your heat signature?
Your incompetence got you killed today and you made a thread about it. You wondering why a AR can hit you at 69m shows you have no right calling people dumbasses. Your failed understanding that not everybody will agree with your opinion furthers alienates you in the "brains of wonder" category.
We AR users are tired of you guys, yea you guys, posting the most inane comments about ARs constantly.
69m is just too much range for AR? Is this guy kidding me?
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:26:00 -
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*cough* plasma is cold now "what has happend?" Reality hit... |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:53:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay You are a dumbass, I didn't complain about swarms having lock ons...I complained about it being impossible to dodge them. Just because I post on the forums does not mean I read other peoples posts. I have also never complained about the range of the AR until now, so keep your stupid **** to yourself. I hate that so many people came to my post and talk **** even when I said ARs are not OP. So I'm a dumbass but yet you couldn't understand why swarms didn't miss you because they were locked on to your heat signature? Your incompetence got you killed today and you made a thread about it. You wondering why a AR can hit you at 69m shows you have no right calling people dumbasses. Your failed understanding that not everybody will agree with your opinion furthers alienates you in the "brains of wonder" category. We AR users are tired of you guys, yea you guys, posting the most inane comments about ARs constantly. 69m is just too much range for AR? Is this guy kidding me? f
ARS are OP I said it. Even laser users are getting out ranged. How about you and the rest get off the AR crutch train already.You talk about QQ everytime a AR user dies he comes to the forums to QQ.You Ar crutch scrubs got everything nerfed because your the majority.Aim assist, no recoil,no drawbacks ,insane ttk,little skill investment, and using that takes skill. You Ar are nothing more than a ccp charity case. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1547
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:59:00 -
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Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. |
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:05:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. CCP post in here to show the stats of rifles or atleast ranges so scrubs like this see how the AR really is it would stop a lot of threads too |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1548
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:09:00 -
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Do some push ups and man up already.
AR "crutch"? That's hilarious. Any AR user could switch to a different weapon and still bring slaughter to your doorstep. To say it's a "crutch" is just plain idiotic.
What are you using that is so difficult to use but somehow someway you found a way to kill with it?
Tell me you're true marksman and you run around with a pistol every battle...
For your info the Aim Assist came recently, but for months, the likes of your kind still whined because they thought a Battlefield/COD rush and shoot tactic was worth the cut.
Thank you for standing still and not reacting when I shoot you with my "crutch" weapon. The problem isn't the weapon, its the victim. CCP post in here to show the stats of rifles or atleast ranges so scrubs like this see how the AR really is it would stop a lot of threads too
Yea it just too bad the only win you have in life is in the virtual realms of New Eden.
So tell me this, brainchild, an AR doesn't have a range of 69m? Really?
You either suck at math or don't know weaponry at all...in this case its both. Before call someone a scrub, how about you at first try to be an intelligent life form. |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:10:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I AM TacoBueno wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I am seriously so tired of these AR threads. Could all you guys just band together and make a thread with all your AR opinions and feels?
69m away is not a bad spot for an AR to kill you with. Why do you guys continually bring up minimal range as if the AR is shooting you from the stratosphere?
Stop saying you guys, IDK what the **** you are talking about, but I am new. Also don't you think it is a little weird that the only guns that have that kind of range are laser rifles? Everything else has terrible range Oh stop it. This is your second thread complaining about the range of ARs. In that time span, you've seen a plethora of AR complaint threads. Merge it all into one. Make the giant "WE HATE AR" thread and keep bumping it daily. You were the same guy complaining about swarm launchers having a lock on their targets. Don't you think its a little weird that you question why an AR killed you at 69m? Sixty nine meters and you find that to be a problem? Yea...okay You are a dumbass, I didn't complain about swarms having lock ons...I complained about it being impossible to dodge them. Just because I post on the forums does not mean I read other peoples posts. I have also never complained about the range of the AR until now, so keep your stupid **** to yourself. I hate that so many people came to my post and talk **** even when I said ARs are not OP. So I'm a dumbass but yet you couldn't understand why swarms didn't miss you because they were locked on to your heat signature? Your incompetence got you killed today and you made a thread about it. You wondering why a AR can hit you at 69m shows you have no right calling people dumbasses. Your failed understanding that not everybody will agree with your opinion furthers alienates you in the "brains of wonder" category. We AR users are tired of you guys, yea you guys, posting the most inane comments about ARs constantly. 69m is just too much range for AR? Is this guy kidding me?
JEEEZ YOU ARE SO DUMB, and now look at you trying to take the high road hahaha. Look....I don't give a **** if it locks on to my heat signature, if the rockets fly past me, why the **** would they do a 180 and come back and hit me? Read the whole ******* post before you keep commenting with stupid comments. "We AR users" I use ARs too, and they outrange everything except for snipers. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1548
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:13:00 -
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Oh shut up, you only spoke up when some others jumped on your bandwagon. Until then you didn't have a leg to stand on and you still don't.
High road? Only you and that other guy decide to call people names when you have no clear way to express yourself. I can call you names as well, its just more fun beating your silliness with intelligence. What are you talking about? 69m for a AR is too much range for you. You said that dumb statement. Short controlled busts allow for better range. But a pansy like you wouldn't know that... |
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