As human beings, we tend to flock towards groups with similar goals, thoughts, likes and such to fight towards a common goal. In the real world, you have civil activist groups, gay right groups, feminist groups and such. So its not strange for us mercenaries in New Eden to have a corporation where friendships are built. Where the hope and dream of being the most feared, the most rivaled corporation comes to mind.

Yes, you can do all those things solo. But also as human beings, we want to share that end goal with someone. To stand with brothers and sisters and say, "hey we accomplished this together". To recall our moments of war, remembering when we needed aid, our corp mate was there to help. Or to come to the aid of another.

That's the beauty of being in a corporation. It increases the worth of the game and the mercenary.

It is easy to play with my best friend cubs everyday and the corp name = our gang name.

For many people being in a corp is about talking with your friends. Its also one of the only reasons some people log on to play.

If you don't like/can't see what corporations offer, don't join them.

I mean honestly:

• you don't get extra money at the end of each game for playing with members of your corp
• you don't earn extra SP
• PC is hit or miss, and 3 ambush matches if you do well can earn you the same amount of money
• you get taxed.
• only the best players get paid, and that's only if the CEO is rich and has an eve player.
• Your sacrifices don't really get compensated. (if you lose 3 tanks worth 5 million isk, who pays that back?
• you need at least 500 million Isk to start PC (wthout an aliance) and sustain a defense of your territory.
• to be successful in PC you need an eve aliance
• corp roles do not give you anymore money or WP

there is really no incentive to joining a corporations. all the things mentioned above only happen with the big corps in PC, that will care for their players. smaller corps, or new corps dont stand a chance and have nothing to offer. Even with big corps there is no guarantee that you can get anything.

on top of that:

• you can find squads without a corp using either A. the squad finder OR B. getting the right chat channels. (hell you can even form your own chat channel and invite people until you start filling it in)
• you don't get taxed in a starter corp.
• you can be invited to PC if a corp in PC has played with you before and think your good. (you only get consistent PC when in a big corp or aliance)
• almost everything you can do with a corp you can do without.

Basically my point is this:
What benefit does the individual players of a corporation get for being in one?

Real mercenaries get paid by their PMCs. Real mercenaries get alot of money for what they do, and of course that experence goes on their resume (file).

Players playing with people from their corp should be getting paid extra for their WP earned as a team and getting a bonus fro winning a battle. etc

This adds nothing to the question in the OP.

As human beings, we tend to flock towards groups with similar goals, thoughts, likes and such to fight towards a common goal. In the real world, you have civil activist groups, gay right groups, feminist groups and such. So its not strange for us mercenaries in New Eden to have a corporation where friendships are built. Where the hope and dream of being the most feared, the most rivaled corporation comes to mind.

Yes, you can do all those things solo. But also as human beings, we want to share that end goal with someone. To stand with brothers and sisters and say, "hey we accomplished this together". To recall our moments of war, remembering when we needed aid, our corp mate was there to help. Or to come to the aid of another.

That's the beauty of being in a corporation. It increases the worth of the game and the mercenary.

All those people flock together for a common cause...
what common goal or cause do corporations have other than PC? and what does PC even accomplish? it won't give civil right s to anyone. hell, FW doesn't free more minmintar every time we win...

I mean honestly:

• you don't get extra money at the end of each game for playing with members of your corp
• you don't earn extra SP
• PC is hit or miss, and 3 ambush matches if you do well can earn you the same amount of money
• you get taxed.
• only the best players get paid, and that's only if the CEO is rich and has an eve player.
• Your sacrifices don't really get compensated. (if you lose 3 tanks worth 5 million isk, who pays that back?
• you need at least 500 million Isk to start PC (wthout an aliance) and sustain a defense of your territory.
• to be successful in PC you need an eve aliance
• corp roles do not give you anymore money or WP

As human beings, we tend to flock towards groups with similar goals, thoughts, likes and such to fight towards a common goal. In the real world, you have civil activist groups, gay right groups, feminist groups and such. So its not strange for us mercenaries in New Eden to have a corporation where friendships are built. Where the hope and dream of being the most feared, the most rivaled corporation comes to mind.

Yes, you can do all those things solo. But also as human beings, we want to share that end goal with someone. To stand with brothers and sisters and say, "hey we accomplished this together". To recall our moments of war, remembering when we needed aid, our corp mate was there to help. Or to come to the aid of another.

That's the beauty of being in a corporation. It increases the worth of the game and the mercenary.

Sounds like your corp sucks. Red Star players don't get taxed, we get compensated for lost fittings and tanks lost in PC. Our CEO regularly drops 20 mill isk on new recruits, we're not in an Eve alliance and still dominate PC and when you squad in corp you know you're going to be with quality players you know and not with blueberries. On top of that we almost always fill PC battles in corp, even when we have to pull from our feeder corp.

LOL it seems that you are responding sarcastically due to some negative occurences with you and corporation. I say that because you say "it won't give civil rights to anyone"

Of course it wouldn't. What I did in a long form was explain that its a natural human thing to do to join groups or in this case, corporations.

Some folks don't look at it short sighted as you do. You expected immediate rewards and something tangible. While there's folks like me who just get a kick out of organized, tactical warfare. Or just to have good times with friends. Or to smoke a bowl together while they storm districts on Molden Heath (not necessarily in PC).

You asked a question and I answered, its to share experiences with like minded people. Now if you don't understand that, you either are trying to knock folks for being in corporations or you had many bitter experiences with corporations.

Nope. I just wanted to call you out on this one. As it stands, there's no financial support flowing down from space players. Any paycheck comes from Dust ISK, not Eve ISK.

You can be a loner out in bummfuk nowhere living in the woods IRL too.

strength in numbers + creates an ingroup with intangible social value allowing one to strive against the implied 'other' or outsider.

^--- random 3-cent words.

L2sociology

Sounds like your corp sucks. Red Star players don't get taxed, we get compensated for lost fittings and tanks lost in PC. Our CEO regularly drops 20 mill isk on new recruits, we're not in an Eve alliance and still dominate PC and when you squad in corp you know you're going to be with quality players you know and not with blueberries. On top of that we almost always fill PC battles in corp, even when we have to pull from our feeder corp.

I have friends in my Corp that I get to squad up with frequently.. That alone is worth it. After all, it's a game and it's here for us to play so we can have fun. If all you care about is making fake money and not getting fake taxed then Idk.. I guess you have a point.

Plus it's fun to get a full squad of Corp members and stomp a pub match filling the top 6 spots.

You get extra money at the end of each match because you do better and die less thanks to the support of your corpmates. You're much more likely to play well with people you know well and play with regularly - corpmates.

Tax isn't much of a concern. Does a couple of percent really make that much difference? Often corps don't have tax at all either.

On having an EVE player - that doesn't give you any benefits other than making administration easier. You can't transfer EVE isk to Dust, so it's not like having an EVE player makes any difference to financing.

Your sacrifices might well be compensated if you're in a good corp. But what were you expecting, magical replacement from nowhere because you're in a corp? If you lost something, it's probably your fault. You're going to lose less things with corp support though.

Needing a load of isk to start PC hardly has an effect on the average player thinking about joining a corporation. That's more of a thing for directors to worry about.

Why would corp roles give you more money or SP? I assume you meant SP, because WP wouldn't really work. If that were the case, then loads of people would just make one man corps, assign themselves all the roles, and go out and make isk/SP. What's the logic behind people with roles getting free stuff from nowhere?

As human beings, we tend to flock towards groups with similar goals, thoughts, likes and such to fight towards a common goal. In the real world, you have civil activist groups, gay right groups, feminist groups and such. So its not strange for us mercenaries in New Eden to have a corporation where friendships are built. Where the hope and dream of being the most feared, the most rivaled corporation comes to mind.

Yes, you can do all those things solo. But also as human beings, we want to share that end goal with someone. To stand with brothers and sisters and say, "hey we accomplished this together". To recall our moments of war, remembering when we needed aid, our corp mate was there to help. Or to come to the aid of another.

That's the beauty of being in a corporation. It increases the worth of the game and the mercenary.

Eve players can transfer Isk to DUST with a 90% tax. which is then used.

Eve players can transfer Isk to DUST with a 90% tax. which is then used.

I mean honestly:

• you don't get extra money at the end of each game for playing with members of your corp
• you don't earn extra SP
• PC is hit or miss, and 3 ambush matches if you do well can earn you the same amount of money
• you get taxed.
• only the best players get paid, and that's only if the CEO is rich and has an eve player.
• Your sacrifices don't really get compensated. (if you lose 3 tanks worth 5 million isk, who pays that back?
• you need at least 500 million Isk to start PC (wthout an aliance) and sustain a defense of your territory.
• to be successful in PC you need an eve aliance
• corp roles do not give you anymore money or WP

there is really no incentive to joining a corporations. all the things mentioned above only happen with the big corps in PC, that will care for their players. smaller corps, or new corps dont stand a chance and have nothing to offer. Even with big corps there is no guarantee that you can get anything.

on top of that:

• you can find squads without a corp using either A. the squad finder OR B. getting the right chat channels. (hell you can even form your own chat channel and invite people until you start filling it in)
• you don't get taxed in a starter corp.
• you can be invited to PC if a corp in PC has played with you before and think your good. (you only get consistent PC when in a big corp or aliance)
• almost everything you can do with a corp you can do without.

Basically my point is this:
What benefit does the individual players of a corporation get for being in one?

Real mercenaries get paid by their PMCs. Real mercenaries get alot of money for what they do, and of course that experence goes on their resume (file).

Players playing with people from their corp should be getting paid extra for their WP earned as a team and getting a bonus fro winning a battle. etc

I made a post about this a few days ago, my solution was a corporation skill tree that increase salvage, decrease prices from market, increases passive wp,then increases active sp in that order of skills

That has been suggested, but it hasn't been implemented.

I made a post about this a few days ago, my solution was a corporation skill tree that increase salvage, decrease prices from market, increases passive wp,then increases active sp in that order of skills

But you can squad up with your friends and do the samething without a corp.

Exactly why I stay out of corps.

You can but its not the same. Being together in a group, a real group, is more fun. Maybe fun isn't the right word but it feels better when you and friends are under the same tag.

i think your a good example. When people see the ancient exiles name, many quiver with fear I have had blue berries leave the game because they saw your corp name.

But, is that really worth the millions of isk in sacriface you and others like you make?

So, yeah you make blues drop their seeds when they see you. but what more do you gain?


In fact, without the ancient exiles corp name, when people see DJINN just as many **** bricks, so you get the same effect without the corp.

I just wanted my own interstellar Taco Shack with Lord Vader's name on it....that's about the only reason I'm in a corp.

-Chimi out, o7

I don't know what you mean by millions of isk sacrifice..?

And it's not just what we gain from making people scared its more than that. A corp helps you make bonds with people you would have otherwise not made.

The friends I have on this game are ALL met through corps. If I didn't join a corp I wouldn't have met my friends.

Impressive. however,
I find your lack of burritos most disturbing.

Oh we got burritos, we package them in Grenades. Ever wonder what's REALLY packed in those things? Hmmmm?
Also, our Nanohives are really just a convenient way to deploy nachos on the battlefield....
....the menu goes on & on...

-Chimi out, o7

hmmm..HMHMMMM most impressive. we gotta squad up sometime. join the chat channel "warrior chat".
Vader is a good host. He treated han solo to a meal before freezing him. lol

hmmm..HMHMMMM most impressive. we gotta squad up sometime. join the chat channel "warrior chat".
Vader is a good host. He treated han solo to a meal before freezing him. lol

Eve players can transfer Isk to DUST with a 90% tax. which is then used.

You can be a loner out in bummfuk nowhere living in the woods IRL too.

strength in numbers + creates an ingroup with intangible social value allowing one to strive against the implied 'other' or outsider.

^--- random 3-cent words.

L2sociology

This is the point.
WE ARE MERCENARIES.

If we were just soldiers, then money probably wouldn't even be mentioned. In fact in COD and BATTLEFIELD money isn't even mentioned or used (except in black ops 1) and that's because it is generally understood that those guys are soldiers of a given country therefore taxes pay for their equipment etc (all though the vets on here know that sometimes you gotta pay for your equipment, and body armor).


Mercenaries fight for money. they have no incentive other than fighting for the highest bidder. Therefore, mercenaries teaming up and donating money without a payout makes no sense. honestly... if you want to fight for people of the same side FW does that choose one side and queue them.


Tell me who YOU individually GAIN from your corp

Incorrect.
This has been discussed, but it is not currently possible.

I get weekly paychecks.

CORP

... PC = 2mill a match (its more than that but suit losses stack up) + all vehicles refunded + a little extra from the corp... Can happily do 2-3 of an evening, more on a weekend. If i want too, not forced to.

Instantly can find a squad of people i know and have faught with before...

Lots of peeps that have my back, new friends out of game too.

Advise, backing, help, tactics... the question is why wouldnt you join a corp?

In real life mercenaries work for huge corporations. In the past they've always worked for someone. Someone had to take and negotiate contracts.

In Dust, I believe the mercenary part of the equation means that the individual is free to fight for whatever faction, join whatever corporation, and use whatever gear they want to use. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to take a look at the mechanics of this game and see that being in a corporation is better than not being in one.

I'm not going to go into a long spiel about the benefits of a corporation. It should be obvious. I will say that being in a 15 man corp with an average SP total of 6 million is a HUGE waste of time for all involved, but still better than going at it solo.

Some people do not have the social skills necessary to be a part of a group however. You sound like the type of person that would ALWAYS second guess everything that someone else suggests without offering anything of substance in response.

I think if you polled the player base you would find yourself in the vast minority.

This makes sense. Please post your link here. This sounds reasonable if the precentages are significant but still small, you can give a mercenary a monetary incentive to joining a corp.

so what individual benefits do you receive from being in a corp?

I mean honestly:

• you don't get extra money at the end of each game for playing with members of your corp
• you don't earn extra SP
• PC is hit or miss, and 3 ambush matches if you do well can earn you the same amount of money
• you get taxed.
• only the best players get paid, and that's only if the CEO is rich and has an eve player.
• Your sacrifices don't really get compensated. (if you lose 3 tanks worth 5 million isk, who pays that back?
• you need at least 500 million Isk to start PC (wthout an aliance) and sustain a defense of your territory.
• to be successful in PC you need an eve aliance
• corp roles do not give you anymore money or WP