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Thor Odinson42
molon labe. RISE of LEGION
1604
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:30:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:This is the point. WE ARE MERCENARIES.
If we were just soldiers, then money probably wouldn't even be mentioned. In fact in COD and BATTLEFIELD money isn't even mentioned or used (except in black ops 1) and that's because it is generally understood that those guys are soldiers of a given country therefore taxes pay for their equipment etc (all though the vets on here know that sometimes you gotta pay for your equipment, and body armor).
Mercenaries fight for money. they have no incentive other than fighting for the highest bidder. Therefore, mercenaries teaming up and donating money without a payout makes no sense. honestly... if you want to fight for people of the same side FW does that choose one side and queue them.
Tell me who YOU individually GAIN from your corp
In real life mercenaries work for huge corporations. In the past they've always worked for someone. Someone had to take and negotiate contracts.
In Dust, I believe the mercenary part of the equation means that the individual is free to fight for whatever faction, join whatever corporation, and use whatever gear they want to use. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to take a look at the mechanics of this game and see that being in a corporation is better than not being in one.
I'm not going to go into a long spiel about the benefits of a corporation. It should be obvious. I will say that being in a 15 man corp with an average SP total of 6 million is a HUGE waste of time for all involved, but still better than going at it solo.
Some people do not have the social skills necessary to be a part of a group however. You sound like the type of person that would ALWAYS second guess everything that someone else suggests without offering anything of substance in response.
I think if you polled the player base you would find yourself in the vast minority. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1230
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:54:00 -
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In my Corp, you're free to do what you like, the way you like it.
The Tax Rate is 0%
You have a privileged acces to my numerous-áNanohives and Uplinks.
You have a gracious logo next to your name.
You squad up with anyone you like.
No Drama. No Responsabilities.
You can be Squad Leader. So, with my bunchload of WP, you'll get that Orbital!
No one will kick you out.
I can even help you out with some ISK sometimes. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1664
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Posted - 2013.10.17 14:02:00 -
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I <3 my nerds. They're the only reason I still log in.
Honestly, we play other games together just as much as dust. We've got a crew in GTA-O. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
1197
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Luk Manag wrote:D legendary hero wrote:
only the best players get paid, and that's only if the CEO is rich and has an eve player.
Nope. I just wanted to call you out on this one. As it stands, there's no financial support flowing down from space players. Any paycheck comes from Dust ISK, not Eve ISK. Eve players can transfer Isk to DUST with a 90% tax. which is then used. Incorrect. This has been discussed, but it is not currently possible.
hey man read before you reply I already sad I was mistaken on this. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
1197
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:23:00 -
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Green Living wrote:I get weekly paychecks.
- You are in outter.heavan... I mean come'on
- your are probably a director, TCO, etc
So, basically what i am taking away from this is... "if you aren't in red star, teamplayers, the EoN aliance, or outter heaven AND a famous player in that corp...why bother joining a corp?" |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
1197
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:31:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:CORP
... PC = 2mill a match (its more than that but suit losses stack up) + all vehicles refunded + a little extra from the corp... Can happily do 2-3 of an evening, more on a weekend. If i want too, not forced to.
Instantly can find a squad of people i know and have faught with before...
Lots of peeps that have my back, new friends out of game too.
Advise, backing, help, tactics... the question is why wouldnt you join a corp?
Again the only people here with positive responses like this are people in the MOOST powerful and MOST famous corps in all of DUST. I mean your corp has a 10 million SP minimum requierement to join for christ's sake.
Everyone knows Sever true blood, especially if you played MAG. Hell, most of you guys new each other from MAG. So, yeah, if your corp is doing PC and already owns districts (and satelite corps), everyone has full proto, with hundreds of players of course you are going to earn cash.
But you chromeBreaker are a famous player as well. Your known all across these forums, and on the battlefield too. Mostly likely by now your a director or at least a TCO.
TL;DR your in one of the best corps, your a famous player, you probably have a high position and repoire among the members.
But how much does your new recruits even get paid? Hell, they have to have 10 million SP before they can even join and go through a training corp. You only prove my point. The average corporation can't do anything even remotely close to this.
And at that, your CEO is not forced to pay you to keep you in the corp. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
1197
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:36:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:This is the point. WE ARE MERCENARIES.
If we were just soldiers, then money probably wouldn't even be mentioned. In fact in COD and BATTLEFIELD money isn't even mentioned or used (except in black ops 1) and that's because it is generally understood that those guys are soldiers of a given country therefore taxes pay for their equipment etc (all though the vets on here know that sometimes you gotta pay for your equipment, and body armor).
Mercenaries fight for money. they have no incentive other than fighting for the highest bidder. Therefore, mercenaries teaming up and donating money without a payout makes no sense. honestly... if you want to fight for people of the same side FW does that choose one side and queue them.
Tell me who YOU individually GAIN from your corp In real life mercenaries work for huge corporations. In the past they've always worked for someone. Someone had to take and negotiate contracts. In Dust, I believe the mercenary part of the equation means that the individual is free to fight for whatever faction, join whatever corporation, and use whatever gear they want to use. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to take a look at the mechanics of this game and see that being in a corporation is better than not being in one. I'm not going to go into a long spiel about the benefits of a corporation. It should be obvious. I will say that being in a 15 man corp with an average SP total of 6 million is a HUGE waste of time for all involved, but still better than going at it solo. Some people do not have the social skills necessary to be a part of a group however. You sound like the type of person that would ALWAYS second guess everything that someone else suggests without offering anything of substance in response. I think if you polled the player base you would find yourself in the vast minority.
1. you are completely wrong about me. as can be evidenced by my responses on the forums and especially people the I have played with in game.
2. with your comment you made yourself this person: "the type of person that would ALWAYS second guess everything that someone else suggests without offering anything of substance in response." |
Zelorian Dexter snr
DVC 514 Aerodyne Collective
68
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:47:00 -
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500m ISK to start PC wow
We went in with 80m 1 pack to attack 1 to restock after we won
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
1206
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:34:00 -
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so what individual benefits do you receive from being in a corp? |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
78
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:30:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:deepfried salad gilliam wrote:I made a post about this a few days ago, my solution was a corporation skill tree that increase salvage, decrease prices from market, increases passive wp,then increases active sp in that order of skills
This makes sense. Please post your link here. This sounds reasonable if the precentages are significant but still small, you can give a mercenary a monetary incentive to joining a corp. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1393364#post1393364 The percentage are small max 5 on most bit still awesome |
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1665
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:40:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:so what individual benefits do you receive from being in a corp?
There is no short answer. Some provide a sense of community, others are directly competitive, others are FW based, some may be chock full of RP tomfoolery, and the list goes on.
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles
3835
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:44:00 -
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Squad mates are essential.
It gives the enemy other people to shoot at.
But on the same note
Never draw fire; it irritates everyone around you. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox One
199
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Posted - 2013.10.18 01:23:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:I mean honestly:
- you don't get extra money at the end of each game for playing with members of your corp
- you don't earn extra SP
- PC is hit or miss, and 3 ambush matches if you do well can earn you the same amount of money
- you get taxed.
- only the best players get paid, and that's only if the CEO is rich and has an eve player.
- Your sacrifices don't really get compensated. (if you lose 3 tanks worth 5 million isk, who pays that back?
- you need at least 500 million Isk to start PC (wthout an aliance) and sustain a defense of your territory.
- to be successful in PC you need an eve aliance
- corp roles do not give you anymore money or WP
Personally most of these points depend on how you play
I must say Paradox is very different from what you are describing . Every one gets paid, I once made only 25 points in a pc still got paid 550,000 . We get compensated for tanks in pc. You are right about the no extra war points though. Also Paradox doesn't have a alliance at the moment and we are successful in pc.
Also Mike Raun is cool a dude. |
D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1219
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:02:00 -
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now I am in a good corp. So i am abandoning this thread. |
Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
104
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:14:00 -
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Nothing if you're anti-social but I like the dudes in my corp and we have laughs and good times and carry on and its like one big frat house of gamers.
Lots of personalities, multi-cultural backgrounds and diversity. It makes the game more fun and I dig it. |
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