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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1031	Posted - 2013.10.15 06:28:00 - [61] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cosgar wrote: kripter MAC wrote: I see your points about using your class and not being able to play a certain game mode. However, teamwork with blueberries is a joke and corp squads aren't always available. I always try to counter tanks with swarms and inexperienced tankers can fall rather easy. A madruger with hardener and reppers will require at minimum 2 proto swarms in unison or a forge plus swarms and movement restricted. That is hardly ever going to happen in ambush. So you will be free to push us around while we HTFU. Just be honest with yourselves and realize how ridiculous it is to have tanks (2 or more) on an ambush and expect any person to impede their progress . Organized groups of infantry players can run the table in an ambush too, what's your point? At least tanks can do the same without spamming grenades. Back in Chromo I stole someones Sagaris, rode it on one loop round the map, then I was blown up... who says blue dots cant work together? Sounds like you didn't know what you were doing.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1031	Posted - 2013.10.15 06:29:00 - [62] - Quote kripter MAC wrote: I give up. This game will continue not to grow because the majority of this community comes off as extremely closed minded. Let's keep up the great work! It's called teamwork.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1031	Posted - 2013.10.15 06:31:00 - [63] - Quote Justice Prevails wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: kripter MAC wrote: I give up. This game will continue not to grow because the majority of this community comes off as extremely closed minded. Let's keep up the great work! I read this as "I'm angry that not everyone on the internet agrees with me, so I'll blame them for everything that is wrong with this game". I agree with him. Can't enjoy a quick match anymore without some tanker coming out with his I win button. Dont even like it when they're on my side because it completely disrupts the match. Sure I switch to av, (after I die because no supply depot). By then too late because half our clones are gone. Hit him a couple times and he runs away like a b**** and recalls it. Doesn't matter match is over and he 20-0. Yeah that's fun. Go ahead and stroke your egos. Are you complaining about ambush, the game mode that doesn't matter and isn't even good practice for faction warfare / planetary conquest?
Racro 01 Arifistan The Surrogates Of War 56	Posted - 2013.10.15 06:33:00 - [64] - Quote kripter MAC wrote: Why?!?! CCP do the right thing and remove vehicles from ambush... anyone would think that this guy hasnt heard of a wykomi swrarm being able to solo a very well fitted tank (that being in the 1.5 mill isk mark. HTFU and get decent AV to deal with us or we will just stomp you into the ground and use you as target practice. better yet dont go as far as cbr7.........thats all you'll need
Racro 01 Arifistan The Surrogates Of War 56	Posted - 2013.10.15 06:34:00 - [65] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Just feel I have to point out 6 Tankers in the thread vs 1 Infantryman...... 7 tankers now............. heheheh
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1264	Posted - 2013.10.15 06:37:00 - [66] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: I no longer think Tanks should be left out of Ambush as i stated previously. Im just against maps without cover for infantry. If a tank gets deployed infantry need a place to hide from it, not just running around in the open.LOL This is faulty map designs not tankers fault.... >>> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113821 <<< ^^^ Would solve most issues ^^^
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 119	Posted - 2013.10.15 07:42:00 - [67] - Quote Void Echo wrote: DJINN leukoplast wrote: True Adamance wrote: kripter MAC wrote: Why?!?! CCP do the right thing and remove vehicles from ambush... Why should you get a vehicle reprieve in Ambush. Ever heard of ambushing tanks? Stranger things have happened. Do we get a vehicle only mode? Do we get a sans AV mode? Nope I suck it up when I play ambush on foot, so can you. HTFU. I would love to see a vehicle only mode, as well as an infantry only mode. But a no AV mode? LOL. That would be like having a mode in which vehicles weren't allowed to have guns. Vehicle players sure know the meaning of balance you want a no vehicle game mode where pilots wont be able to use their specific class? we want a game mode where our enemy class is completely blocked and we can finally have fun In all fairness I wish there was a vehicle only mode and an infantry only mode ... that would stop all the tanker QQ because their wouldnt be any AV for them to deal with and in the infantry mode there wouldn;t be any vehicles for them to QQ
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 439	Posted - 2013.10.15 07:58:00 - [68] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: kripter MAC wrote: I give up. This game will continue not to grow because the majority of this community comes off as extremely closed minded. Let's keep up the great work! It's called teamwork. Yes. 3 Infantry units in tanks, 13 other suits, majority proto, on the ground with no supply depot to switch between suits. Teamwork indeed.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1187	Posted - 2013.10.15 08:02:00 - [69] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: kripter MAC wrote: I give up. This game will continue not to grow because the majority of this community comes off as extremely closed minded. Let's keep up the great work! It's called teamwork. Yes. 3 Infantry units in tanks, 13 other suits, majority proto, on the ground with no supply depot to switch between suits. Teamwork indeed. Your fault for not defending it, or having someone ready with AV.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1187	Posted - 2013.10.15 08:03:00 - [70] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Void Echo wrote: DJINN leukoplast wrote: True Adamance wrote: kripter MAC wrote: Why?!?! CCP do the right thing and remove vehicles from ambush... Why should you get a vehicle reprieve in Ambush. Ever heard of ambushing tanks? Stranger things have happened. Do we get a vehicle only mode? Do we get a sans AV mode? Nope I suck it up when I play ambush on foot, so can you. HTFU. I would love to see a vehicle only mode, as well as an infantry only mode. But a no AV mode? LOL. That would be like having a mode in which vehicles weren't allowed to have guns. Vehicle players sure know the meaning of balance you want a no vehicle game mode where pilots wont be able to use their specific class? we want a game mode where our enemy class is completely blocked and we can finally have fun In all fairness I wish there was a vehicle only mode and an infantry only mode ... that would stop all the tanker QQ because their wouldnt be any AV for them to deal with and in the infantry mode there wouldn;t be any vehicles for them to QQ Splitting the playerbase because someone doesn't like to fight X type of enemy is stupid.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3108	Posted - 2013.10.15 08:24:00 - [71] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cosgar wrote: kripter MAC wrote: I see your points about using your class and not being able to play a certain game mode. However, teamwork with blueberries is a joke and corp squads aren't always available. I always try to counter tanks with swarms and inexperienced tankers can fall rather easy. A madruger with hardener and reppers will require at minimum 2 proto swarms in unison or a forge plus swarms and movement restricted. That is hardly ever going to happen in ambush. So you will be free to push us around while we HTFU. Just be honest with yourselves and realize how ridiculous it is to have tanks (2 or more) on an ambush and expect any person to impede their progress . Organized groups of infantry players can run the table in an ambush too, what's your point? At least tanks can do the same without spamming grenades. Back in Chromo I stole someones Sagaris, rode it on one loop round the map, then I was blown up... who says blue dots cant work together? Sounds like you didn't know what you were doing. Yup I made a split second decision a month ago to tank. Now I will never go back.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 69	Posted - 2013.10.15 09:39:00 - [72] - Quote Justice Prevails wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: kripter MAC wrote: I give up. This game will continue not to grow because the majority of this community comes off as extremely closed minded. Let's keep up the great work! I read this as "I'm angry that not everyone on the internet agrees with me, so I'll blame them for everything that is wrong with this game". I agree with him. Can't enjoy a quick match anymore without some tanker coming out with his I win button. Dont even like it when they're on my side because it completely disrupts the match. Sure I switch to av, (after I die because no supply depot). By then too late because half our clones are gone. Hit him a couple times and he runs away like a b**** and recalls it. Doesn't matter match is over and he 20-0. Yeah that's fun. Go ahead and stroke your egos. Dude tanks are paper just make a forge suit(mlt works) and have fun Fully stacked dmg mods But hey as an experiment call in a tank and watch the av rip it apart in. 02 seconds
kripter MAC L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 17	Posted - 2013.10.15 10:12:00 - [73] - Quote I'm sure your soma got ripped apart. Call in a 6700 armor madruger with hardener reppers and movement booster. Then come back here and tell me how fast you die in an ambush with the one smart swarm launcher shooting at you.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 424	Posted - 2013.10.15 10:22:00 - [74] - Quote Signed Get HAV out of Ambush first, then get the rest of vehicles out after.l
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 424	Posted - 2013.10.15 10:25:00 - [75] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: kripter MAC wrote: I give up. This game will continue not to grow because the majority of this community comes off as extremely closed minded. Let's keep up the great work! It's called teamwork. Yes. 3 Infantry units in tanks, 13 other suits, majority proto, on the ground with no supply depot to switch between suits. Teamwork indeed. Your fault for not defending it, or having someone ready with AV. This is typicaly ******* HAV moron, its apparently YOUR fault if YOU dont have AV, so in the eyes of a tanker, if your not tailoring your game to play their game, then your the one at fault. Everybody run AV so HAV crutches can have some more validity.
LudiKure ninda Black Phoenix Mercenaries 35	Posted - 2013.10.15 11:15:00 - [76] - Quote Im caling tanks in ambush yust to **** of people and it costs me around 400k isk. So I can call in around 3,4 tanks per game,with 2,3 frends with high sp tanks. Hawe fun infantry
jerrmy12 kahoalii Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 69	Posted - 2013.10.15 11:17:00 - [77] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: True Adamance wrote: kripter MAC wrote: Why?!?! CCP do the right thing and remove vehicles from ambush... Why should you get a vehicle reprieve in Ambush. Ever heard of ambushing tanks? Stranger things have happened. Do we get a vehicle only mode? Do we get a sans AV mode? Nope I suck it up when I play ambush on foot, so can you. HTFU. I would love to see a vehicle only mode, as well as an infantry only mode. But a no AV mode? LOL. That would be like having a mode in which vehicles weren't allowed to have guns. Vehicle players sure know the meaning of balance tank vs tank, duh
jerrmy12 kahoalii Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 69	Posted - 2013.10.15 11:19:00 - [78] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: I have an alt that I'm trying to tank with, so I send over millions of isk and buy tanks, the thing is whenever I go to fight with it this happens proto av nade Proto av nade proto av nade Respspawn summon new Shot from sky by invisiforge Summon new shot from sky Wait on far end of map Looks safe Summon new Afk till end of match Lost 4 mill minimum made 150 k isk Nailed it! tell me about it.......
jerrmy12 kahoalii Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 69	Posted - 2013.10.15 11:20:00 - [79] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: Get high ground with a swarm launcher and watch how every tanker is running for their life. I must know it cause i put 3 complex damage mods on a gallente medium frame suit with a proto swarm launcher. But yeah like other suggested: get decent AV weapons. Once you have proto AV weapons avaible and killed a few tanker successfully they will put you on their watchlist and wont call in any tanks when you are on the opposite team. And i put every tanker on my watchlist. If i see them on the opposite team i instantly spawn with proto swarms, call in derpship and camp high ground with nanohives. (changes the word "***" from harley riders to people like you)
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 459	Posted - 2013.10.15 11:23:00 - [80] - Quote you cant be serious ..how about this take away all proto av and remove the skills ability to be upped beyond tier 3 ccp as that is the max vehicle lvl attainable while your at it remove proto turrets put all such things back in when you have your **** together and have proto tanks and complex modules for these poor vehicle speccs to use

Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 459	Posted - 2013.10.15 11:27:00 - [81] - Quote op do you think they WANT to be in ambush lol no im sure they would much rather dust were a balanced game in which they're specc wouldnt be made completely worthless by ccps decision to put a proto counter to a max adv specc in dust 514. all proto vehicle based items need to bee hotfixed away till you can give everyone everything proto in the vehicle aspect of dust ccp...the most expensive aspect in dust to run cannot be balanced slowly like this. your vehicle community made up 50% of your player-base and none of them will play because no smart gamer would it is a gamble at best
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1370	Posted - 2013.10.15 11:51:00 - [82] - Quote Do we get a no AV skirmish/domination mode?
Cosgar ParagonX 6045	Posted - 2013.10.15 16:20:00 - [83] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: True Adamance wrote: Just feel I have to point out 6 Tankers in the thread vs 1 Infantryman...... 7 tankers now............. heheheh I'm haven't tanked since beta and I'm defending tanks.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1036	Posted - 2013.10.15 17:08:00 - [84] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: kripter MAC wrote: I give up. This game will continue not to grow because the majority of this community comes off as extremely closed minded. Let's keep up the great work! It's called teamwork. Yes. 3 Infantry units in tanks, 13 other suits, majority proto, on the ground with no supply depot to switch between suits. Teamwork indeed. Are you referring to ambush? I play skirmish and domination when I'm not in FW and PC. Who plays ambush?
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1036	Posted - 2013.10.15 17:09:00 - [85] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Signed Get HAV out of Ambush first, then get the rest of vehicles out after.l Are you advocating for CCP to take all the vehicles out of Dust?
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1036	Posted - 2013.10.15 17:15:00 - [86] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: kripter MAC wrote: I give up. This game will continue not to grow because the majority of this community comes off as extremely closed minded. Let's keep up the great work! It's called teamwork. Yes. 3 Infantry units in tanks, 13 other suits, majority proto, on the ground with no supply depot to switch between suits. Teamwork indeed. Your fault for not defending it, or having someone ready with AV. This is typicaly ******* HAV moron, its apparently YOUR fault if YOU dont have AV, so in the eyes of a tanker, if your not tailoring your game to play their game, then your the one at fault. Everybody run AV so HAV crutches can have some more validity. It's entirely infantry's fault if they don't bring AV. How am I supposed to give some random an ADV heavy and Ishukone assault forge? Odds are few are skilled into that anyway.
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 219	Posted - 2013.10.15 17:26:00 - [87] - Quote kripter MAC wrote: Why?!?! CCP do the right thing and remove vehicles from ambush... Oh so they should only be allowed in game modes where infantry don't have to make sacrifices? They're not free wp for infantry you got a problem run av nades they're OP
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3119	Posted - 2013.10.15 18:34:00 - [88] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Your fault for not defending it, or having someone ready with AV. This is typicaly ******* HAV moron, its apparently YOUR fault if YOU dont have AV, so in the eyes of a tanker, if your not tailoring your game to play their game, then your the one at fault. Everybody run AV so HAV crutches can have some more validity. It's entirely infantry's fault if they don't bring AV. How am I supposed to give some random an ADV heavy and Ishukone assault forge? Odds are few are skilled into that anyway.[/quote] So Infantry get to determine the meta of the game. Complaining about HAV when they have the advantage when it come to AV weapons yet they insist the nerf bat need to hit HAV again, HAVer need to change their game entire, HAV need to be banned from game modes, so infantry don't have to make use of skills they specc into, change their own style of play, or have the challenge of AV gameplay. Such a pitifully weak argument.
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 807	Posted - 2013.10.15 18:40:00 - [89] - Quote Looks like Duna and Blackheart are still at it those rascals
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 308	Posted - 2013.10.15 18:50:00 - [90] - Quote That's one of the big reasons why dust is the laughable to a point,once you say "Tanks in a TDM" to non dust players they cross dust514 off there to pay list.There's still 2 other modes vehicles can be used,where it makes sense to use them on those modes BUT the odds of you losing your tank goes up and tanker love those shooting gallery farming match of ambush where not alot of players are organized enough to stop them.



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