A week ago we were dominating with 100%-98% control in all systems. But apparently amarr rewards were more preferred.

It seems like all it takes is numbers in FW to be winning

actually that is about right.

Looking at the faction warfare map and the Amarr seem to be dominating , been playing FW for a bit lately for the Minmatar and it seems like there is always a squad filled with members from one corp on the amarr side. I've barely seen a squad from a specific corp on the Minmatar side, doesn't seem like there are many people that like the Minmatar on Dust 514, is it the same on the EVE side?

it has to do with the amount of attack contracts. both sides are distributing the same number, so every time we flip a district it gets swarmed with Amarr attack contracts since they have nowhere else to hit. One loss and the district re-flips (I think, every time I attacked a district it always switched))

That and people flocked to Amarr when Cubs said he would be fighting for them.

Looking at the faction warfare map and the Amarr seem to be dominating , been playing FW for a bit lately for the Minmatar and it seems like there is always a squad filled with members from one corp on the amarr side. I've barely seen a squad from a specific corp on the Minmatar side, doesn't seem like there are many people that like the Minmatar on Dust 514, is it the same on the EVE side?

Looking at the faction warfare map and the Amarr seem to be dominating , been playing FW for a bit lately for the Minmatar and it seems like there is always a squad filled with members from one corp on the amarr side. I've barely seen a squad from a specific corp on the Minmatar side, doesn't seem like there are many people that like the Minmatar on Dust 514, is it the same on the EVE side?

This has had a major effect on FW. It's honestly annoying and to the point where many won't even bother with the Matari because matches are just pre-match making proto/officer weapon stomps.

There's been fairly strong support for the Amarr for a while, it's just that it took until now for anyone to give a damn about FW. This event acted as a turning point, for sure.

Speaking from my corp, we decide to not do FW anymore. It's not fun anymore and many of us are now about broke attempting to keep up with the insane wallets of those fighting for the Amarr. We can't get out of the hole. So there's no point in continuing.

So, guess you guys win this one. *twirls finger* They'll need to run another event to get the sides evened out because the Minmatar will not be pulling themselves out of this hole anytime soon.

Half the Minnie FW efforts are Gallentean corps, the others are whiny pricks who generally cant accept FW mechanics are the way they are.))

You'd better give credit where credit is due mate. Teamplayers was one of the weights on the end of the seesaw, as aspect of FW that is common to both EVE and dust, and damn he has done a good job.

But....

PIE Inc has been running constant OB's on the warzone for weeks, plexing all target systems, fighting non stop for a month, helping with and gathering all the Amarr FWers into one channel.

((this is not taking credit at all, as we saw weeks ago 2-4 players cannot make the difference. But with the formation of PIE GD, enough people took interest in working with us. I wish people wouldn't de facto point out Team Players because they are good and well known players. Half the Minnie FW efforts are Gallentean corps, the others are whiny pricks who generally cant accept FW mechanics are the way they are.))

Yeah you guys started making matches competitive and fun before the event. Before the event is where I give you guys props and credit. Now your numbers are just stacked the sides are completely uneven. Many of us have tried organizing but the fact is most good players I know won't fight for the Minmatar anymore because of this event and because of whos on your side.

For those of us that wanted balance to the teams, you efforts pre-event were worth noting. Now, it's just overkill. You're the generals of the ****-fest beating up on newbros now. Not exactly praise worthy anymore. If this whole thing happened without an event okay yeah, maybe then I'd give you a pat on the back.

You guys lit a match. CCP poured gasoline on it.

As much as I can sympathize this is what FW is. Core groups fighting over ground, pushing. Until one Major Free Lancer Group supports the efforts and we get the imbalance until the mold is broken a month later.

Yeah you were right our efforts pre Region Flip was worth nothing, the Amarr FW scene was hugely under represented, and not organized.

Now we are represented, supported, and organized.

I don't need props beyond the initial flip of the districts our miltia caused. You are pretty na+»ve about FW aren't you......

Are you also talking about how the developers took your side last month basically releasing a statement with their concerns about how Minmatar and Gallente FW might break and cause the month long zone control you had.

Basically now that you are in the position the Amarr were last month you are giving up. That is not loyalty Cyrus.

Good luck to you in whatever you do. Hopefully you return one day to FW.

I'm sure you'll see me on the battleground but not my corp anymore.

Seems so, I doubt that there will be enough support for the Minmitar to gain territory back in the future even if this game gains more players. I guess more people would prefer to fight for religious slavers.

*Sigh*

Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. i've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference

Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting.

But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles.

Minmatar can still get districts back. We just need more Minmatars sticking together and fighting together or squading up. Yes PIE Inc and TP are great corps but that doesn't mean that else can't win some districts back.

I think some Minmatars are just lazy, scared or something. If I see a good corp in the battle, damn straight I's keep my ass there and start fighting. If I lose a crapload of ISK , oh well at least I'm getting better by playing against better players.

Look to Turalyon 514, and Prima Gallicus. They've been bailing you all out for weeks.

Look to Turalyon 514, and Prima Gallicus. They've been bailing you all out for weeks.

That's exactly the mentality you need to have! Whenever you see a large squad of players from a good corp, you know they are used to redlining the enemy team. So the best thing you can do is not run and hide (quit the battle), but do your best to make them hurt! Even if you don't win, if you can make them fight and make them bleed it will mess with their heads the next time you face off. And if you do beat them? Well, just sit back and wait for the excuse mail to come in!

*Sigh*

Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. I've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference

Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting.

But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles.

That's exactly the mentality you need to have! Whenever you see a large squad of players from a good corp, you know they are used to redlining the enemy team. So the best thing you can do is not run and hide (quit the battle), but do your best to make them hurt! Even if you don't win, if you can make them fight and make them bleed it will mess with their heads the next time you face off. And if you do beat them? Well, just sit back and wait for the excuse mail to come in!

I have to disagree with being against Qsyncing. Sorry but almost every match I've played where we Q-synced it was necessary. Every match where there wasn't an organized team we lost. I'd rather win 1 out of 3 than lose 3 out of 3.

It's like you guys are in this ridiculous state of denial about how large of support you have from this event.

I have to disagree with being against Qsyncing. Sorry but almost every match I've played where we Q-synced it was necessary. Every match where there wasn't an organized team we lost. I'd rather win 1 out of 3 than lose 3 out of 3.

It's like you guys are in this ridiculous state of denial about how large of support you have from this event.

3000 LIKES BITCHES!

Ummmm congrats?.....

Oh you replied? Man that was fast. Do you work for Jimmy John's IRL?

And yes I am aware of these two corps. But I've yet to see them in action

200k ISK to the person who gives me thier PUB chats though. (It's hard finding FW channels that are organized)

3000 LIKES BITCHES!

Also Cyrius, I don't believe we're denying how much support Amarr has right now, we simply don't like that people are attributing all of the support to random luck or event rewards.

Yup I have lost more ISK's worth of equipment than the Carthums are worth, not to mention the Tanks, as well as the fact I cant even use the Carthums......

As True Adamance stated, the willingness and excitement of players to join PIE Ground Deployment and help fight for the Amarr is what turned the tide of FW.

At this point it sounds as if the naysayers are simply grasping at straws to whine about how we pulled ahead and pushed the Minmatar out. While the Minmatar had 100% control, you didn't see many Amarr loyalist making excuses or finding things to groan about, we simply silently continued to fight for our Empire. The moment we turn the tide in our favour and reclaim our land, we are accused of stacked teams, and people simply wanting the Amarr awards more than the other factions' .

I'm sorry, but these threads are simply cleverly disguised QQ threads on how we reclaimed OUR space.

You want it back?

Get organized
Get EVE support
Stop b******* about it
Fight for it

Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar?

SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE ME THIER PUB CHATS!

Yup I have lost more ISK's worth of equipment than the Carthums are worth, not to mention the Tanks, as well as the fact I cant even use the Carthums......

500+ Mill can anyone beat that?

30+ Tanks lost
100+ Dropsuits and gear
2 Harbinger BattleCruisers
1 Navy Omen
2 Coercer
5 Tormentors

Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar?

Now granted, I won't give it to them. But I will applaud and respect their efforts and success

To all of my brothers on the Gallente/Mimmitar side:

1.) Don't Q-sync. That is a waste of valubale resources
2.) Have better organization
3.) Push harder
4.) DO NOT QQ AND GIVE UP!

Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar?

43 of my most shinest tanks destroyed
25 Limbui gone.
125 Wikomis Lost
3 Thales totaled
50 Proto dropsuits destroyed

512,344,603 ISK total. Yeah your right the rewards aren't even worth that much. But it seems that we are one of the few people who are dedicated for a cause.

Just kidding it's more like 22 Mil but you still get the point

edit: I dont play EVE, so I havent lost a starship yet

That total is good but I hadn't even totalled my Dust side losses, that 500 Mill was ships alone.

Are there any Minmatar RP corps in Dust that are good?

If I wasn't in Dust Core, I'd make one and find a way to contact some Minmatar EVE corps so we could get organization like PIE Inc. I feel like most of the Minmatar(myself including) lone wolf a lot in FW just because a lot of people never really wanted to play FW that much. FW used to be the place I could go for fun competition and better rewards with ISK and SP. Honestly FW is more my thing than Pub Matches. Pub matches are fun something quick or when I can't get into FW.

Are there any Minmatar RP corps in Dust that are good?

If I wasn't in Dust Core, I'd make one and find a way to contact some Minmatar EVE corps so we could get organization like PIE Inc. I feel like most of the Minmatar(myself including) lone wolf a lot in FW just because a lot of people never really wanted to play FW that much. FW used to be the place I could go for fun competition and better rewards with ISK and SP. Honestly FW is more my thing than Pub Matches. Pub matches are fun something quick or when I can't get into FW.

Hey da Gand, hope all is well.

Wanted to make sure there wasn't a misunderstanding....Turalyon is a Gallente FW corporation. Dust side I don't have any issues with fighting for Minmatar also. But it's mostly Gallente.

I don't know much about Eve side but I'm pretty sure the Eve pilots are exclusively Gallente supporting.

Gradient is the Electus Matari Dust arm. They are the counterparts to PIE if ever there was one.

They recruit infrequently here and I have never seen them in match though....

And that's probably who you should get in contact with. PIE's ground side wasn't that much when True Adamance and I joined. We joined with the sole intention of raising it up under the banner of an established corporation (and it's not just us two). That is honestly what you should do (or anyone else who cares enough about Minmatar FW). Instead of creating your own brand new Minmatar FW corporation for Dust, get in contact with the Minmatar FW corporations in EVE who have been doing it for awhile and try to get their Dust side of things going.

Dust side FW is still relatively new (it didn't really start until Uprising), so you're probably not going to find an EVE corp that already has an established Dust side in FW, so do be afraid to try and upstart one within one of those corps.

My God how much ISK are you willing to burn?

My God how much ISK are you willing to burn?